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5/15/2015 7:17:07 PM EDT
Pretty damn cool!

5/15/2015 7:22:18 PM EDT
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I miss cheap 7n6
5/15/2015 7:23:01 PM EDT
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.
5/15/2015 7:25:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Good video!
5/15/2015 7:27:42 PM EDT
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They haven't settled down yet.  I blame the shitswirl of gas in that compensator.
5/15/2015 7:28:16 PM EDT
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Nice catch. I was watching the barrel flop around like overcooked spaghetti, and the BCG rattle around like a Mexican jumping bean in the receiver.
5/15/2015 7:28:59 PM EDT
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Cool
5/15/2015 7:29:22 PM EDT
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If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids
5/15/2015 7:31:57 PM EDT
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Sloppy fucking things.
5/15/2015 7:32:26 PM EDT
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If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.
5/15/2015 7:32:42 PM EDT
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Sound effects were lame.
Cool hi speed filming though
I love them guns!
5/15/2015 7:33:08 PM EDT
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If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

Not in flight, but most bullets are just a little unstable a few inches to feet off the muzzle.

That phenomenon is exaggerated with long-for-caliber bullets.
5/15/2015 7:33:27 PM EDT
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What's up with the piston banging around for position before it goes into whatever-it-is-you-call-the-part that it goes into?
5/15/2015 7:33:53 PM EDT
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They really are.

I like the "Will it blend" video where they chop up a ham sandwich with one.
5/15/2015 7:34:18 PM EDT
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.



Lol. This.
5/15/2015 7:34:22 PM EDT
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That's called "being an AK".
5/15/2015 7:34:27 PM EDT
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It doesn't tumble while its in the air.
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.


haha... no but the back kind of swirls around so when it hits a target it tumbles in the target.. right??
5/15/2015 7:35:13 PM EDT
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1:43 piston can't reseat because the piece of shit is so sloppy.
5/15/2015 7:35:19 PM EDT
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Not in flight, but most bullets are just a little unstable a few inches to feet off the muzzle.

That phenomenon is exaggerated with long-for-caliber bullets.
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

Not in flight, but most bullets are just a little unstable a few inches to feet off the muzzle.

That phenomenon is exaggerated with long-for-caliber bullets.

Which is why 5.56 is a better HD caliber than 300BLK.
5/15/2015 7:35:24 PM EDT
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Money! It's a gas!
5/15/2015 7:35:25 PM EDT
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I think you would be well served with a copy of Litz's book on ballistics.
5/15/2015 7:35:35 PM EDT
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.


Check out 0:26
5/15/2015 7:35:36 PM EDT
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Wolf is still cheap.
5/15/2015 7:36:19 PM EDT
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haha... no but the back kind of swirls around so when it hits a target it tumbles in the target.. right??

I think you would be well served with a copy of Litz's book on ballistics.


lol.. i think you're right...
5/15/2015 7:36:28 PM EDT
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.


haha... no but the back kind of swirls around so when it hits a target it tumbles in the target.. right??

Have you ever played with a top? That's what bullets do, but the top is only 2D, and the bullet is doing it in 3D.
5/15/2015 7:36:37 PM EDT
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.


haha... no but the back kind of swirls around so when it hits a target it tumbles in the target.. right??



Has to do with the hollow pocket in the tip of the 7n6 bullet, and the weight of the base of bullet which causes the yawing
AFTER it hits it's target, if I remember correctly.
5/15/2015 7:36:40 PM EDT
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What's up with the piston banging around for position before it goes into whatever it is you cal the part that it goes into?

That's called "being an AK".


The gas tube guides the piston back into the gas block.
5/15/2015 7:37:30 PM EDT
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Nope.
Because the gas tube was removed.
It guides the piston into the gas block.
5/15/2015 7:37:42 PM EDT
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I don't know that I'd make that broad of a statement about it.

Bullet for bullet, I would agree (heavy MatchKings), but I think I'd rather have a suppressed 8" Blackout shooting 110gr Vmaxs than a Mk18 with 262 or Optimized.
5/15/2015 7:40:40 PM EDT
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The bullet is flopping around pretty good at :32 into the video also.

So much so that I had to go back to make sure I was seeing what I thought I saw.



It's fun watching all the parts dance and whip around as they do their work.

AKs are not exactly a elegant design, but they get the job done.
5/15/2015 7:41:20 PM EDT
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I don't know that I'd make that broad of a statement about it.

Bullet for bullet, I would agree (heavy MatchKings), but I think I'd rather have a suppressed 8" Blackout shooting 110gr Vmaxs than a Mk18 with 262 or Optimized.
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Which is why 5.56 is a better HD caliber than 300BLK.

I don't know that I'd make that broad of a statement about it.

Bullet for bullet, I would agree (heavy MatchKings), but I think I'd rather have a suppressed 8" Blackout shooting 110gr Vmaxs than a Mk18 with 262 or Optimized.

Except then you start dealing with overpenetration.
5/15/2015 7:41:45 PM EDT
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Have you ever played with a top? That's what bullets do, but the top is only 2D, and the bullet is doing it in 3D.
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Check out what that bullets doing at 1:06.

Precession is a myth, my ass.


If i'm not mistaken 5.45 is a tumbling round.. right??

such a badass vid.. i love most of Vickers' vids

It doesn't tumble while its in the air.


haha... no but the back kind of swirls around so when it hits a target it tumbles in the target.. right??

Have you ever played with a top? That's what bullets do, but the top is only 2D, and the bullet is doing it in 3D.


so... (bear with me) 5.56 acts the same???
5/15/2015 7:41:50 PM EDT
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How well does the M-4 function with the gas tube removed?
5/15/2015 7:42:10 PM EDT
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Nope.
Because the gas tube was removed.
It guides the piston into the gas block.
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1:43 piston can't reseat because the piece of shit is so sloppy.


Nope.
Because the gas tube was removed.
It guides the piston into the gas block.


Correct.

Off topic:
There was a time when I owned around 16 or 17 AKS-74s of various makes, prototypes and custom builds.
After the surplus dried up and the novelty factor wore off, I own I think, just two now.
5/15/2015 7:42:27 PM EDT
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Yes.
5/15/2015 7:44:40 PM EDT
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Notice the bolt carrier slamming into the back of the receiver.

That's a bad thing, in case you were wondering.  One of the reasons why AK's shoot themselves into inoperability over time rather quickly.
5/15/2015 7:45:08 PM EDT
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5/15/2015 7:45:52 PM EDT
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Glad I'm not the only one who thought that...
5/15/2015 7:46:14 PM EDT
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Notice the bolt carrier slamming into the back of the receiver.

That's a bad thing, in case you were wondering.  One of the reasons why AK's shoot themselves into inoperability over time rather quickly.
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Lulz.

No.
5/15/2015 7:46:18 PM EDT
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How well does the M-4 function with the gas tube removed?


All the work is finished close to the gas block on AKs. The tube is just a guide for the proper alignment of the piston. A proper comparison would be the removal of the piston rod itself.
5/15/2015 7:46:33 PM EDT
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5/15/2015 7:47:00 PM EDT
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so... (bear with me) 5.56 acts the same???
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Have you ever played with a top? That's what bullets do, but the top is only 2D, and the bullet is doing it in 3D.


so... (bear with me) 5.56 acts the same???

Shooting is applied physics. To a certain and variable extent, all bullets demonstrate that characteristic.
5/15/2015 7:47:03 PM EDT
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Lulz.

No.
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That's a bad thing, in case you were wondering.  One of the reasons why AK's shoot themselves into inoperability over time rather quickly.


Lulz.

No.


Lulz.

Yes.

LR knows his shit. Do you deny metal pieces slamming into each other while whipping around may cause wear and tear?
5/15/2015 7:47:27 PM EDT
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How well does the M-4 function with the gas tube removed?

As well as the AK with the gas piston removed.
5/15/2015 7:48:35 PM EDT
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They removed the gas tube to show what was going on. It guides the piston back into the gas block normally.

Surprised it functioned at all without it. But that's the black magic of the Kalishnikov I guess.
5/15/2015 7:49:55 PM EDT
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LRThe knows his shit.

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Notice the bolt carrier slamming into the back of the receiver.



That's a bad thing, in case you were wondering.  One of the reasons why AK's shoot themselves into inoperability over time rather quickly.




Lulz.



No.




Lulz.



Yes.



LRThe knows his shit.

Yea, you know those AK's, never last very long, you can never find an old one anywhere still working....

 
5/15/2015 7:51:11 PM EDT
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Notice the bolt carrier slamming into the back of the receiver.





That's a bad thing, in case you were wondering.  One of the reasons why AK's shoot themselves into inoperability over time rather quickly.
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There are plenty of AKs in Afghanistan and Pakistan that have been used for several decades, with shot out barrels, but still working.


 
5/15/2015 7:55:11 PM EDT
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Notice the bolt carrier slamming into the back of the receiver.

That's a bad thing, in case you were wondering.  One of the reasons why AK's shoot themselves into inoperability over time rather quickly.


Lulz.

No.


Lulz.

Yes.

LRThe knows his shit.
Yea, you know those AK's, never last very long, you can never find an old one anywhere still working....  


Did he say that you can never find ANY working AKs ever? No, just that the flex and repeated impacts can cause premature wear. Look up reductio ad absurdum.
5/15/2015 7:57:04 PM EDT
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If the bolt carrier is slamming the trunion that means its time for a new recoil spring.
5/15/2015 7:58:25 PM EDT
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5/15/2015 7:59:13 PM EDT
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