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9/7/2011 2:21:55 PM EDT
No shit.  Seriously, I am going to spend real money on two rods (for surf fishing), and I want the best.  I don't want junk.  Who makes the best rod these days?
9/7/2011 2:27:56 PM EDT
[#1]
I do...... no kidding.  Really though you can build a great rod for half the cost if you have a few days. All the info you need is online or you can do like I did and buy a few books but way easier than I thought it would be and make some great rods.
9/7/2011 2:28:06 PM EDT
[#2]
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..
9/7/2011 2:32:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Gotta go with the St Croix.... Althogh I have a nice Tica that I love.. Little cheaper.
9/7/2011 2:34:51 PM EDT
[#4]
I'd get a custom rod from Red Drum tackle shop in Buxton (cape hatteras).
every fall I go up there and see their killer rods in their shop and always want one.
my friend received a killer RD trout rod for xmas last year –– 7' one piece, miniumal eyes,with a big diameter last eye near the reel and that MFer casts unreal.
think the fewer eyes and large eye reduce the drag of the line when casting a grub.
9/7/2011 2:39:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..

+1
St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.

9/7/2011 2:41:43 PM EDT
[#6]




Quoted:

St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..




Lamiglas makes a couple of really nice ones also.

I went with a little less expensive St.Croix  mojo surf rod
9/7/2011 2:46:09 PM EDT
[#7]
castaway
9/7/2011 3:16:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..

+1
St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.



They are "handcrafted"  in Fresnillo, Mexico.

Forgive my skepticism.  Tell me a little more!
9/7/2011 3:17:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..

+1
St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.



Give me some custom options.
9/7/2011 3:19:49 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..


Rainshadow's website = ass.

Also, I want the motherfucker to work the fish.  Looks are not my concern.
9/7/2011 3:21:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I'd get a custom rod from Red Drum tackle shop in Buxton (cape hatteras).
every fall I go up there and see their killer rods in their shop and always want one.
my friend received a killer RD trout rod for xmas last year –– 7' one piece, miniumal eyes,with a big diameter last eye near the reel and that MFer casts unreal.
think the fewer eyes and large eye reduce the drag of the line when casting a grub.


I am certain I have been there.

Their website = ass.
9/7/2011 3:23:27 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..


+1

St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.







They are "handcrafted"  in Fresnillo, Mexico.



Forgive my skepticism.  Tell me a little more!

go hold one, and flex it



fuckers are light as shit and depending on what you get, very stiff and little resonance/bounceback
 
9/7/2011 3:24:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Maybe they're spending their money on making rods instead of designing websites.
9/7/2011 3:25:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..


Holy crap Van Staal reels are awesome!
9/7/2011 3:26:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Maybe they're spending their money on making rods instead of designing websites.


Hey.  Fuck me.  My point is I cannot learn about their product from their shit site.
9/7/2011 3:26:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
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St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..

+1
St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.

Give me some custom options.

Tons of options for heavers to use on the OBX. Can't go wrong with a custom from Red Drum Tackle.

Start searching here: Surf Talk
9/7/2011 3:27:00 PM EDT
[#17]
Ugly Stik for me. Impossible to break.
9/7/2011 3:27:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
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St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..

+1
St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.



They are "handcrafted"  in Fresnillo, Mexico.

Forgive my skepticism.  Tell me a little more!
go hold one, and flex it

fuckers are light as shit and depending on what you get, very stiff and little resonance/bounceback



 


The price of their surf rods is very reasonable, and the price of their high-end stuff is acceptable as well.
9/7/2011 3:27:43 PM EDT
[#19]
St.Croix makes a very good for the money.

Lamiglass are good but expensive.

Check out Breakaway. http://www.breakawayusa.com/

G. Loomis makes some surf rods too but I have never used one. I do like their smaller rods.
9/7/2011 3:28:09 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a St Croix Mojo 10' 6" 2-6 oz and I love it.



Striper season right around the bend





9/7/2011 3:29:34 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I have a St Croix Mojo 10' 6" 2-6 oz and I love it.

That's my next rod.
9/7/2011 3:32:45 PM EDT
[#22]




Quoted:



Quoted:

I have a St Croix Mojo 10' 6" 2-6 oz and I love it.


That's my next rod.





Trust me, you won't regret it....if you only throw plugs, I'd seriously suggest looking at the 3/4-4 as well





Boat Fish Don't Count!



9/7/2011 3:33:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Lamiglass is much more expensive than St Croix, but lifetime vs 5 yr warranty (eh...).
9/7/2011 3:34:19 PM EDT
[#24]
St Croix Mojo Rods seems to be a East coast rod. Where the fish are smaller.
9/7/2011 3:35:17 PM EDT
[#25]
I need to buy 2 rods, so I am going to go with the ARFCOM mantra and get both.

Right now it is a Lamiglass and a St Croix.  Need to think about which within the manufacturer's lines, and need more info before pulling the trigger.
9/7/2011 3:35:39 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Lamiglass is much more expensive than St Croix, but lifetime vs 5 yr warranty (eh...).


We use Lamiglass for the big jacks
9/7/2011 3:36:16 PM EDT
[#27]




Quoted:

Lamiglass is much more expensive than St Croix, but lifetime vs 5 yr warranty (eh...).




Their Legend Surf series come with a lifetime warranty but those are a lot closer to the Lami pricing.
9/7/2011 3:38:51 PM EDT
[#28]
Get a one piece rod, really.
9/7/2011 3:39:25 PM EDT
[#29]




Quoted:

I need to buy 2 rods, so I am going to go with the ARFCOM mantra and get both.



Right now it is a Lamiglass and a St Croix. Need to think about which within the manufacturer's lines, and need more info before pulling the trigger.




1 for bait and wait and 1 for plugging?
9/7/2011 3:39:26 PM EDT
[#30]
This was a survey off of Pier and Surf from the membership there on the best surf rod and reel combo's with AVERAGE prices.

Conventional Rods

1st place: Bass Pro Oceanmaster ($150)
Pros: Inexpensive, Fuji hardware, solid backbone.
Cons: The rod is stiff, so it's less sensitive at detecting bites. It's also a little tougher to load than more limber rods in its class.

2nd place: Tica UEHA ($129)
Pros: Inexpensive, blank has similar feel to more expensive Loomis, versatile, sensitive.
Cons: Can explode when throwing beyond recommended weights.

3rd place: WRI Fusion ($400)
Pros: Sensitive but has a beefy spine, considered by many serious surf fisherman to be the best rod on the beach.
Cons: Expensive, heavier, can be tough to load on the cast.

Honorable mentions: 1569 Rainshadow ($350), AFAW Surf ($300), Breakaway HDX ($240), 12' Tsunami ($100)

Conventional Reels

1st place: Penn 525 Mag ($140)
Pros: Reel is nearly birdsnest-proof with magnet mod, easy to service.
Cons: There have been some complaints that sand gets inside easily.

2nd place: Daiwa Saltist 20/30 ($180)
Pros: Durable, casts extremely well, solid clicker, good line capacity.
Cons: Drag is subpar, need to be degreased after purchase.

3rd place: ABU 6500 Blue Yonder ($150)
Pros: Great casting reel, easily modified, reasonable price.
Cons: Prone to corrosion, doesn't hold a ton of line.

Honorable Mentions: Daiwa Slosh 30 ($125), Avet SX ($200).

Spinning Rods

1st place: St. Croix ($230)
Pros: Light and sensitive, but has enough of a spine to horse big fish.
Cons: Expensive.

2nd place: Tica UEHA ($130)
Pros: Inexpensive, blank has similar feel to more expensive Loomis, versatile, sensitive.
Cons: Have had problems in the past with ceramic rings cracking.

3rd place: Okuma Solaris ($90)
Pros: Cheap surf rod, loads easily, sensitive.
Cons: Doesn't have a lot of backbone, cheap hardware.

Honorable Mention: Tica Dolphin ($180)
Pros: Sensitive, good backbone, loads beautifully.
Cons: One of the more expensive off-the-shelf surf spinners.

Spinning Reels

1st place: Shimano Stradic ($180)
Pros: Light, smooth, one of the most popular reels for jigging.
Cons: Many reports of them not holding up well in surf conditions (Spheros is hardened version of this reel). For jigging only.

2nd place: Daiwa Emblem ($150)
Pros: Durable, smooth-casting, reasonable price.
Cons: No secondary drag/free-spool, so it's unsuited to soaking bait.

3rd place: Shimano Baitrunner ($170)
Pros: THE reel to pair with a spinning heaver to go after bigger fish like drum and stripers. Secondary drag has the best clicker among spinners.
Cons: Heavy, extremely complex internally so it's hard to service.

Honorable Mentions: Daiwa Black Gold ($100), Shimano Spheros ($129), Shimano Aero Technium ($700).

I'm a fan of the Lamiglass, and my Baitrunner has been flawless for the past 10 years. I have not fished the St. Croix, but they have an excellent reputation and are often fished here...as well as the ABU reels. I have all Shimano....never done me wrong.
Have fun with it...and good luck.
9/7/2011 3:44:07 PM EDT
[#31]
The legend surf rods have a lifetime warranty....
9/7/2011 3:44:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Ugly Stik for me. Impossible to break.


This
 And Penn
9/7/2011 3:46:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..

+1
St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.



They are "handcrafted"  in Fresnillo, Mexico.

Forgive my skepticism.  Tell me a little more!


The Mojo Surf line is made in Mexico (anything Mojo in St. Croix's line up is made overseas while everything else is made in USA).  The Mojo is a great rod for the money with similar performance to the Legend Surf series.  I own both but usually grab the Legends first. :)
9/7/2011 3:47:08 PM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Ugly Stik for me. Impossible to break.




This

 And Penn


both heavy as fuck
 
9/7/2011 3:47:49 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Get a one piece rod, really.


this... no contest between a quality one piece and any multi-piece rod... it's the feel

9/7/2011 3:51:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..


Holy crap Van Staal reels are awesome!


Totally sealed. You can literally swim out to your spot and start fishing. No water intrusion. Guys up in montauk use them to swim to their rock and fish for stripers. Gonna have the best rod, might as well have one of the best reels to go with it. Only problem is, you have to send them in for free service yearly.
9/7/2011 3:55:20 PM EDT
[#37]
Ugly stik.

9/7/2011 4:13:45 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ugly Stik for me. Impossible to break.


This
 And Penn


+1 more
9/7/2011 4:19:51 PM EDT
[#39]
Lamiglass
9/7/2011 4:27:24 PM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:



Quoted:

St. Croix Legend series.... Hands down some of the best rods out there, imho. Or if you can get a custom made Rainshadow blank... Might as well get a Zeebaas or van staal reel to go on it..


+1

St. Croix for factory or custom if you can afford it.





In case no one has mentioned it  /thread



The warranty is outstanding!





 
9/7/2011 4:32:33 PM EDT
[#41]



Quoted:


I need to buy 2 rods, so I am going to go with the ARFCOM mantra and get both.



Right now it is a Lamiglass and a St Croix.  Need to think about which within the manufacturer's lines, and need more info before pulling the trigger.




I got a couple St. Croix, my brother-in-law got a pair of the Lamiglass rods.  I used both several times this summer.



Go play with both of these before you pull the trigger; very different feel on each.  






 
9/7/2011 4:33:54 PM EDT
[#42]
G Loomis = the Colt of fishing rods
9/7/2011 4:40:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Daiwa Saltiga Ballistic rods are hands down the best surf rods you can buy.  As someone said earlier Red Drum Tackle has both stock and custom rods built with this blank.  It will toss 8 and bait without a problem.  

scott
9/7/2011 4:56:30 PM EDT
[#44]



Quoted:


Ugly Stik for me. Impossible to break.






 
I've one for over 20 years. With what it's hauled in, I'm astounded it is still in one piece.  
9/7/2011 6:13:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
G Loomis = the Colt of fishing rods


G Loomis one piece with Van Staal two fiddy...

BTW, Van Staal was bought by Zebco and all made in China now,,, interestingly, they did not drop the price

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