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Posted: 1/5/2016 2:35:19 PM EDT
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I have seen enough NIB Aimpoint M68 CCO (M2 and M4) not work when they were taken out of the box to not be surprised. If there are electronics and it is mass produced there will be bad ones out there. These units should be sent to Trijicon CS so they can figure out what went wrong and fix it. I think one poster has done that so far, and the s/n are over 12,0000. /Rant, Rob Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After hearing about several just failing I just can't trust it ..... Hopefully they straighten these out .... I'll stick to my aimpoints for now I have seen enough NIB Aimpoint M68 CCO (M2 and M4) not work when they were taken out of the box to not be surprised. If there are electronics and it is mass produced there will be bad ones out there. These units should be sent to Trijicon CS so they can figure out what went wrong and fix it. I think one poster has done that so far, and the s/n are over 12,0000. /Rant, Rob This is a very good point. The last new T-1 I bought was dead on arrival. Their customer service was stellar and with the history of the T-1 so firmly established it never occurred to me to view it as anything other than a quality escape. |
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Posted: 1/6/2016 11:30:45 AM EDT
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I have been playing with mine more and more now that I am in a new house. If I get slightly off center with my eye relief and I have a light at my back while looking into a darker area, mine will show the red glare at a 45 degree angle. It is brief and you have to try to make it happen.
Is some slight reflection under perfect conditions to cause it expected with all red dots? |
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Posted: 1/6/2016 3:30:21 PM EDT
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zeroed my MRO at the range finally... no issues or complaints w/it, especially considering the price point compared to the T1/T2.
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Posted: 1/6/2016 9:44:37 PM EDT
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I have been playing with mine more and more now that I am in a new house. If I get slightly off center with my eye relief and I have a light at my back while looking into a darker area, mine will show the red glare at a 45 degree angle. It is brief and you have to try to make it happen. Is some slight reflection under perfect conditions to cause it expected with all red dots? Yes. Even my Aimpoint Pro can do that under certain conditions. I never saw my EOTech do it, though, but I suspect it would have if under the right conditions, too. |
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Posted: 1/7/2016 1:22:49 AM EDT
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Not really an update, but two more went down this morning at training. Officers pulled them out of their cruiser racks, and no dot. Just like the other sights, batteries have no effect. Trijicon is still being very helpful, but have not given a reason for the faulty units yet. I think this makes 5 or 6 now.
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Posted: 1/7/2016 4:35:46 PM EDT
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Not really an update, but two more went down this morning at training. Officers pulled them out of their cruiser racks, and no dot. Just like the other sights, batteries have no effect. Trijicon is still being very helpful, but have not given a reason for the faulty units yet. I think this makes 5 or 6 now. Keep us updated on what they say. We have 4 we are using at my department with no issues so far. We have been using them since September. |
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Posted: 1/7/2016 9:35:25 PM EDT
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That's all I need to hear, and I'm not usually one to hop on the hate train so quickly. I mean, I was an EOThing user till a few weeks ago and all. Going Aimpoint PRO on an ADM.
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Posted: 1/8/2016 12:18:49 AM EDT
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I went to go check one out at a local shop the other day. They let me handle it for a bit. I have astigmatism, the dot was still fairly crisp. However unless the optic was within 1-4 inches from my eye I was seeing double vision due to the magnification/image shift. It got worse the further I moved it away, anyone else have this phenomenon? It was a 005xx ish serial.
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Posted: 1/8/2016 9:40:25 AM EDT
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Not really an update, but two more went down this morning at training. Officers pulled them out of their cruiser racks, and no dot. Just like the other sights, batteries have no effect. Trijicon is still being very helpful, but have not given a reason for the faulty units yet. I think this makes 5 or 6 now. That sucks. I really was considering one of these when I start saving again for a nice red dot. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 5:24:03 PM EDT
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Just an update. I'll get the SNs of the other broken units on Monday, but two of the broken units are within a couple numbers of each other. SNs 6976 and 6963.
Unfortunately I may never know exactly what the issue is, as these are going back to Optics Planet and not Trijicon. If I send them back to Trijicon, they will most certainly make everything right, but then I am stuck with them. If I continue to work through OP, I have a couple months to decide whether or not I want to press on, or pull the plug and get something different. So we'll see. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 6:06:37 PM EDT
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Well I'll add a positive note. Received my MRO/ADM combo yesterday. I've yet to shoot with it yet but mounting it and trying it out in the house and around the yard it's fantastic. Slight tint to the glass but that's not uncommon (especially if you've used a Reflex II). No distortion or magnification, although I'm using both eyes open focusing on the target. I bet if I close one eye and only focus on the glass I might see something but I doubt it. No glare but again I wasn't turning it every which way trying to find it either. Can't wait to put some rounds through it next week.
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Posted: 1/9/2016 6:45:54 PM EDT
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Ok. Got mine today from Optics Planet; serial 0127XX, 1/3 co-witness. The MRO was already attached to the mount; not sure if that's standard or not.
I placed the battery lightly in the compartment pressed it down, then screwed on the cap. It wouldn't turn on, so I removed the battery compartment cover and battery for a repeat. After I removed the battery, I noticed that one of the copper flanges were bent inward, pressed down. I lightly bent the copper flange back to the original position with a tiny flathead screw driver, however it broke off. I went ahead and installed the battery again, screwed the cap on and the unit worked perfect. I doubt the one connecter missing is going to make any difference, so I really don't care unless it becomes an issue in the future. On step 3 the dot is visible with overcast sky conditions, and I would imagine in sunshine, step 4 would be very usable. Haven't mounted or shot it yet, but 1st impressions are positive. |
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Posted: 1/9/2016 7:09:55 PM EDT
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^ Sounds like you may have received a returned unit from OP.
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Posted: 1/9/2016 7:18:27 PM EDT
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Possibly. The small bag the instructions, Trijicon sticker, battery (newly sealed energizer), and allen wrench appeared to be organized and new.
If it is a return.. I'm willing to see how it runs; the glass doesn't appear to be scratched and nor does the unit. I'll back out each screw from the mount and re-torque them all to 12 inch pounds as per the manual. Then I'll mount it to my Tavor, take it out to see how it runs. Personally I think it's very nice from just looking through it in my house and in my back yard. Two eyes open, it seems to work as advertised. There is a slight magnification but barely noticeable unless you want to nitpick. The unit itself seems very robust and well built. I was running a buddies EOtech, and the fact that I can't leave it on all the time is a deal breaker for me. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 2:38:48 PM EDT
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OK, so the SNs of the 4 faulty units I have in hand are: 6963, 6976, 6949 and 7028. All fairly close together in SN range. Our team guys like the sights enough that they want to stick it out, so these units will go back to Trijicon instead of Optics Planet. I'll let you know what Trijicon says when their technicians take a look at them.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 6:54:52 PM EDT
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OK, so the SNs of the 4 faulty units I have in hand are: 6963, 6976, 6949 and 7028. All fairly close together in SN range. Our team guys like the sights enough that they want to stick it out, so these units will go back to Trijicon instead of Optics Planet. I'll let you know what Trijicon says when their technicians take a look at them. Not bad, out of the 300 or so that I've gone through I've only had 1 DOA, 1 wouldn't zero and 1 with broken battery contacts. Everyone else has been very happy with them. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 10:41:37 AM EDT
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Got to the range yesterday. Slapped the mro on my bushmaster 14.5" with pinned brake. Sighted it in at 50yds with a bipod and shot a quarter sized group (not too impressive for the yardage but my fingers were damn near frozen). The first thing I noticed was the magnification throwing off my eyes. I had to close my left to make decent hits. The blue tint was noticeable but I could work through it. Normally I mount my dots over the magwell (it's where the mro started at) so I tried moving the sight rearward to see if that would help. No bueno. While standing with both eyes open I shot 9 rounds at a poland springs water bottle about 40 yards out. Miss miss miss x 9. I then dropped back down on the bipod, closed my left eye and fired a tenth... Kablooey went the bottle.
I have never had an issue with other dots or eotechs but for some reason had to shoot with one eye using an mro. This is a sight I thought looked great on paper and on the rifle. I really wish I could like it; especially for the price. This unit is 12k serial # range and was not a return. Well, it is now a return. All boxed up and headed to the post office this AM. Don't know if I'll grab a H1 or put the Pro back on. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 12:47:35 PM EDT
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Dang this is a bummer. Was really hopin' to get one of these...
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Posted: 1/13/2016 1:25:22 PM EDT
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It seems people's eyes are more the issue than the optic. People speak of magnification but it's only 2 hundredths more than the T1. The human eye won't see that difference. My eyesight isn't the best but I saw no image shift at all unless I tried ridiculously hard to make it happen.
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Posted: 1/13/2016 1:33:59 PM EDT
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It seems people's eyes are more the issue than the optic. People speak of magnification but it's only 2 hundredths more than the T1. The human eye won't see that difference. My eyesight isn't the best but I saw no image shift at all unless I tried ridiculously hard to make it happen. Or, there's some variances in the manufacture. I've now gotten to look through multiple MRO's thanks to them being stocked in number at my LGS. Some have lots of magnification, some have very little. |
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Posted: 1/13/2016 3:19:56 PM EDT
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Or, there's some variances in the manufacture. I've now gotten to look through multiple MRO's thanks to them being stocked in number at my LGS. Some have lots of magnification, some have very little. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It seems people's eyes are more the issue than the optic. People speak of magnification but it's only 2 hundredths more than the T1. The human eye won't see that difference. My eyesight isn't the best but I saw no image shift at all unless I tried ridiculously hard to make it happen. Or, there's some variances in the manufacture. I've now gotten to look through multiple MRO's thanks to them being stocked in number at my LGS. Some have lots of magnification, some have very little. True. I guess some growing pains are to be expected. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 10:43:33 AM EDT
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Decided to find out what all the MRO fuss is about so took a chance and ordered a couple for myself (none available locally for me to check out, I've got a 30-day return window if I don't like them).
Yes, I can see image shift, slight magnification and the lens tint if I look for them, but I don't notice them at all *while shooting* which is what's most important to me. Also, the MRO's dot is sharper to my astigmatism than any of Aimpoint's offerings (not completely sharp/crisp, but definitely less distorted). I like the lighter weight (5.88oz with factory 1/3 cowitness mount) and wider FOV through the optic. I tried it at both ends of the rail to see if I could detect any image difference and I couldn't so mounted it farther back to maximize FOV through the optic (which I prefer). Battery installed easily although I was careful not to bend any of the 12 contact springs. While I like the switch's location, I'm not sure I like the amount of force needed to make adjustments (although I'd rather it take a little too much than too little). I found setting 3 was adequate for using my 500 lumen M600U at night. Overall I'm very pleased w/the MRO so far, I look forward to more range time w/it. My only question right now is from idle curiosity; I wonder what estimated battery life is on settings 4 & 5 since we already know what 3 & 6 are (50K hrs and 25 days/600 hrs, respectively). Tomac ETA: If I have to nitpick, the W/E adjustments aren't very tactile although they are audible. I found myself removing my plugs to hear the clicks during adjustments. Also, elevation adjustments can be difficult to make even w/something as small as a dime when the slot is oriented front/back. 
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Posted: 1/17/2016 3:22:25 PM EDT
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Anyone know when the scalarworks combo will be available. I'm still on the fence but, curious on the timeline.
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:50:02 AM EDT
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Or, there's some variances in the manufacture. I've now gotten to look through multiple MRO's thanks to them being stocked in number at my LGS. Some have lots of magnification, some have very little. THIS. Got my first one from Sport Optic that I had problem with, they sent out another one( without asking for the one I had back first, plus a return label) which, after comparing them both side by side, I found them to have different degrees of tint and shift. Luckily, the replacement one is better than the first I got in both areas. I suspect it has something to do with how the objective lens are screwed in. Some have more of an angle than the others. Google MRO image, you'll see. Some pictures show step rings( the one holding objective lens) are almost flush with the housing, some aren't. Mines are tilted down and to the right( understand that's how it suppose to be). The first one was the same, just a tad more tilted to the right It's a very good optic. I like it a bunch more than Eotech EXPS 2 and definitely H2 I had a while back. If you can try or compare between different ones before committed, great. If not, make sure you buy from a place that will make it right for you if you were not happy. Put me in the "Happy MRO camp". |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 4:23:19 AM EDT
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THIS. Got my first one from Sport Optic that I had problem with, they sent out another one( without asking for the one I had back first, plus a return label) which, after comparing them both side by side, I found them to have different degrees of tint and shift. Luckily, the replacement one is better than the first I got in both areas. I suspect it has something to do with how the objective lens are screwed in. Some have more of an angle than the others. Google MRO image, you'll see. Some pictures show step rings( the one holding objective lens) are almost flush with the housing, some aren't. Mines are tilted down and to the right( understand that's how it suppose to be). The first one was the same, just a tad more tilted to the right It's a very good optic. I like it a bunch more than Eotech EXPS 2 and definitely H2 I had a while back. If you can try or compare between different ones before committed, great. If not, make sure you buy from a place that will make it right for you if you were not happy. Put me in the "Happy MRO camp". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Or, there's some variances in the manufacture. I've now gotten to look through multiple MRO's thanks to them being stocked in number at my LGS. Some have lots of magnification, some have very little. THIS. Got my first one from Sport Optic that I had problem with, they sent out another one( without asking for the one I had back first, plus a return label) which, after comparing them both side by side, I found them to have different degrees of tint and shift. Luckily, the replacement one is better than the first I got in both areas. I suspect it has something to do with how the objective lens are screwed in. Some have more of an angle than the others. Google MRO image, you'll see. Some pictures show step rings( the one holding objective lens) are almost flush with the housing, some aren't. Mines are tilted down and to the right( understand that's how it suppose to be). The first one was the same, just a tad more tilted to the right It's a very good optic. I like it a bunch more than Eotech EXPS 2 and definitely H2 I had a while back. If you can try or compare between different ones before committed, great. If not, make sure you buy from a place that will make it right for you if you were not happy. Put me in the "Happy MRO camp". Interesting. I compared both of my side-by-side and they appear identical image-wise (11xxx & 13xxx serial numbers). Tomac |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 2:29:24 PM EDT
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Had another one go down today. SN 3228, so no where near the serial numbers of the other faulty units. Haven't heard back from Trijicon about the initial 6 faulty units sent back, but they have only had them a week. I'll keep you all updated.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 5:00:49 PM EDT
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Just had a quick question. Is the MRO the same height using the low mount as the T1. I need something mounted low. Thanks
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Posted: 1/19/2016 5:04:32 PM EDT
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I'm told it sits a little higher and that the T-1 will still be your best bet for a super low optic.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:20:38 PM EDT
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I bought one and took it to the range for a few trips. It did not work out for me. The magnification/distortion fatigued my eyes and gave me a headache. Another person at my club owns one, and his looks exactly the same as mine. He did not have the same problems with the headache. Maybe my mind is just too simple and can't handle the image shift. At this time, if someone were to ask me about it, I would not be able to make a recommendation either way. They would have to test it for themselves. I sold it and bought a T2. Then immediately regretted that purchase as a friend bought a mepro-rds on sale and I liked it better than either MRO or T2. Love the T2 |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:14:14 AM EDT
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Another MRO down. Let me give you a little background.
I bought my very first AR 15 in November 2015 and along with it I bought what I thought was going to be a great red dot sight the Trijicon MRO. Being this is my first red dot sight I didn't know what u was looking at or looking for. At first the red dot seemed to be a little fuzzy and not a crisp red dot. That was bearable at that time. Fast forward to today. Now my red dot looks like it is a Chinese character/symbol. Keep in mind I've only shot roughly 500 rounds with my AR/ Trijicon MRO combo. I did call customer service and spoke to technical support and he said to send it in for warranty replacement. they told me to fill out a return with and send it in. I don't think a $550 product should fail so fast with a relatively low round count. On a side note I found a great deal on an Aimpoint t1 for $540 which I'm going to put on my AR pistol. If this works out to be better I will sell my MRO and get another Aimpoint. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:02:55 AM EDT
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Another MRO down. Let me give you a little background. I bought my very first AR 15 in November 2015 and along with it I bought what I thought was going to be a great red dot sight the Trijicon MRO. Being this is my first red dot sight I didn't know what u was looking at or looking for. At first the red dot seemed to be a little fuzzy and not a crisp red dot. That was bearable at that time. Fast forward to today. Now my red dot looks like it is a Chinese character/symbol. Keep in mind I've only shot roughly 500 rounds with my AR/ Trijicon MRO combo. I did call customer service and spoke to technical support and he said to send it in for warranty replacement. they told me to fill out a return with and send it in. I don't think a $550 product should fail so fast with a relatively low round count. On a side note I found a great deal on an Aimpoint t1 for $540 which I'm going to put on my AR pistol. If this works out to be better I will sell my MRO and get another Aimpoint. Before you send it back, take a camera/phone and take a picture of the reticle which the mro on. If it's clear and round in the picture but looks like $#!+ in real life. It's you, not the mro. You may have astigmatism and not realize it. Red dots suck with astigmatism. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:53:54 AM EDT
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Before you send it back, take a camera/phone and take a picture of the reticle which the mro on. If it's clear and round in the picture but looks like $#!+ in real life. It's you, not the mro. You may have astigmatism and not realize it. Red dots suck with astigmatism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another MRO down. Let me give you a little background. I bought my very first AR 15 in November 2015 and along with it I bought what I thought was going to be a great red dot sight the Trijicon MRO. Being this is my first red dot sight I didn't know what u was looking at or looking for. At first the red dot seemed to be a little fuzzy and not a crisp red dot. That was bearable at that time. Fast forward to today. Now my red dot looks like it is a Chinese character/symbol. Keep in mind I've only shot roughly 500 rounds with my AR/ Trijicon MRO combo. I did call customer service and spoke to technical support and he said to send it in for warranty replacement. they told me to fill out a return with and send it in. I don't think a $550 product should fail so fast with a relatively low round count. On a side note I found a great deal on an Aimpoint t1 for $540 which I'm going to put on my AR pistol. If this works out to be better I will sell my MRO and get another Aimpoint. Before you send it back, take a camera/phone and take a picture of the reticle which the mro on. If it's clear and round in the picture but looks like $#!+ in real life. It's you, not the mro. You may have astigmatism and not realize it. Red dots suck with astigmatism. I did take a picture with my camera and it's still the same. I even had my GF look at it and she says my dot looks like a butterfly. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 9:16:01 PM EDT
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I did take a picture with my camera and it's still the same. I even had my GF look at it and she says my dot looks like a butterfly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another MRO down. Let me give you a little background. I bought my very first AR 15 in November 2015 and along with it I bought what I thought was going to be a great red dot sight the Trijicon MRO. Being this is my first red dot sight I didn't know what u was looking at or looking for. At first the red dot seemed to be a little fuzzy and not a crisp red dot. That was bearable at that time. Fast forward to today. Now my red dot looks like it is a Chinese character/symbol. Keep in mind I've only shot roughly 500 rounds with my AR/ Trijicon MRO combo. I did call customer service and spoke to technical support and he said to send it in for warranty replacement. they told me to fill out a return with and send it in. I don't think a $550 product should fail so fast with a relatively low round count. On a side note I found a great deal on an Aimpoint t1 for $540 which I'm going to put on my AR pistol. If this works out to be better I will sell my MRO and get another Aimpoint. Yeah that sounds jacked up then. Before you send it back, take a camera/phone and take a picture of the reticle which the mro on. If it's clear and round in the picture but looks like $#!+ in real life. It's you, not the mro. You may have astigmatism and not realize it. Red dots suck with astigmatism. I did take a picture with my camera and it's still the same. I even had my GF look at it and she says my dot looks like a butterfly. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:53:16 AM EDT
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Another MRO down. Let me give you a little background. I bought my very first AR 15 in November 2015 and along with it I bought what I thought was going to be a great red dot sight the Trijicon MRO. Being this is my first red dot sight I didn't know what u was looking at or looking for. At first the red dot seemed to be a little fuzzy and not a crisp red dot. That was bearable at that time. Fast forward to today. Now my red dot looks like it is a Chinese character/symbol. Keep in mind I've only shot roughly 500 rounds with my AR/ Trijicon MRO combo. I did call customer service and spoke to technical support and he said to send it in for warranty replacement. they told me to fill out a return with and send it in. I don't think a $550 product should fail so fast with a relatively low round count. On a side note I found a great deal on an Aimpoint t1 for $540 which I'm going to put on my AR pistol. If this works out to be better I will sell my MRO and get another Aimpoint. Yeah that sounds jacked up then. Before you send it back, take a camera/phone and take a picture of the reticle which the mro on. If it's clear and round in the picture but looks like $#!+ in real life. It's you, not the mro. You may have astigmatism and not realize it. Red dots suck with astigmatism. I did take a picture with my camera and it's still the same. I even had my GF look at it and she says my dot looks like a butterfly. Hey I've taken that test before ! I can't remember what it means when you think the dot looks like a butterfly, though... |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 3:50:03 PM EDT
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So what's the short version here. Are these things crap? What is the success rate of satisfied customers? I need a red dot and I don't want T1/H1/T2/H2 and I'd like something a bit smaller than my PROs.
This thing seems to check the boxes but I can't make an informed decision when there's so many horror stories. Are people just being picky or are these things really going through growing pains? Is Trijicon using us as beta testers while they fix their product? |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 4:55:41 PM EDT
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If there are this many that have failed and people not particularly happy, I think you have your answer. I was thinking of an MRO until I came across this thread, to many broken ones even though I will not use it like they would.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:19:07 PM EDT
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Well, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but we are pulling out all together. The SWAT team liked them enough initially to be willing to jump through the hoops to get Trijicon to fix the faulty sights, until this morning that is. During a SWAT call-out early this morning, two more went down. That's 9 out of 20, and far beyond acceptable. They are all going back.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:46:29 PM EDT
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Well, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but we are pulling out all together. The SWAT team liked them enough initially to be willing to jump through the hoops to get Trijicon to fix the faulty sights, until this morning that is. During a SWAT call-out early this morning, two more went down. That's 9 out of 20, and far beyond acceptable. They are all going back. I'll still update you all if I hear back from Trijicon. We appreciate the updates, what are the failure symptoms? Failure during use or before use? Thx! Tomac |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 6:53:30 PM EDT
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Well, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but we are pulling out all together. The SWAT team liked them enough initially to be willing to jump through the hoops to get Trijicon to fix the faulty sights, until this morning that is. During a SWAT call-out early this morning, two more went down. That's 9 out of 20, and far beyond acceptable. They are all going back. I'll still update you all if I hear back from Trijicon. We appreciate the updates, what are the failure symptoms? Failure during use or before use? Thx! Tomac Every sight worked fine upon initial installation (which was done by me to ensure they were installed correctly). On about half of them, the officer noticed that the dot was dimming, and they had to turn up the dial to high (6?) to be able to see the dot. Then it just faded away. The other officers didn't notice any dimming--they simply pulled them out of the rack one day, and there was no dot. On all of the sights, I removed the batteries from the suspect units, and placed them in a known good unit, and it powered up fine. Likewise, using brand new batteries in the suspect units yielded negative results. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:40:51 PM EDT
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I wanted to buy an mro but might have to change that thought. I don't like the fov on the micro aimpoints and don't like the weight of the pro and m4.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:52:27 PM EDT
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pretty disappointed with whats happening lately with the MRO. Though to foget those stories when reaching to grab it and wondering if its dead. Mine shipped today, and def not looking forward to it now.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:54:54 PM EDT
[#42]
I have both of mine set at '3', I'll check them periodically for functionality. Whatever the problem is, I hope Trijicon either fixes it or has already fixed in in later units. Regardless, I'd like to know the specific problem that causes symptoms like that.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:55:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Ive got 3 MRO'S with about 1,000 rounds on each of them, no problems from any of them.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:12:51 PM EDT
[#44]
I've been watching this with much interest,
I have a second generation tri-power (metal body/round objective housing) that I had high hopes for when I bought it in '05. At the time I thought it was the "Aimpoint killer" but, it wasn't meant to be. I loved the red chevron but it ate batteries and made the fiber optic glow when on. It also had a weird kill-flash at the time. Then they came out with the Gen 3's that had the cylindrical objective housing and used a kill-flash like an Aimpoint. They still ate batteries though. When I saw the MRO come out I had hoped they finally got it right and honestly hope they will get this sorted out. However, at this point I will pass until the issues are resolved as I don't want to relive my tri-power experience. Anybody want to buy a used tri-power? Wpns Man |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:44:21 PM EDT
[#45]
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Well, I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but we are pulling out all together. The SWAT team liked them enough initially to be willing to jump through the hoops to get Trijicon to fix the faulty sights, until this morning that is. During a SWAT call-out early this morning, two more went down. That's 9 out of 20, and far beyond acceptable. They are all going back. I'll still update you all if I hear back from Trijicon. So you guys had 7 out of 20 fail, yet you still took them on a real call-out? 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 11:40:22 PM EDT
[#46]
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I've been watching this with much interest, I have a second generation tri-power (metal body/round objective housing) that I had high hopes for when I bought it in '05. At the time I thought it was the "Aimpoint killer" but, it wasn't meant to be. I loved the red chevron but it ate batteries and made the fiber optic glow when on. It also had a weird kill-flash at the time. Then they came out with the Gen 3's that had the cylindrical objective housing and used a kill-flash like an Aimpoint. They still ate batteries though. When I saw the MRO come out I had hoped they finally got it right and honestly hope they will get this sorted out. However, at this point I will pass until the issues are resolved as I don't want to relive my tri-power experience. Anybody want to buy a used tri-power? Wpns Man You can get decent return for the TriPower with patience online. Took me about a month, but I sold mine. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 2:22:40 AM EDT
[#47]
So this is my first red dot as I may have mentioned before hand...After a bit of research I believe I have a very slight astigmatism.. Dot looks like it has some protruding lines, roommate one says it looks like a triangle but he's opinion is questionable....Roommate two has a similar view as mine. Possible that all three of us have this? Dot is a perfect circle when a photo is taken..Finally ordered a mount from primary arms and like always extremely fast shipping...until usps sent it back to texas when it was an hour from my house.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 2:37:35 AM EDT
[#48]
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So this is my first red dot as I may have mentioned before hand...After a bit of research I believe I have a very slight astigmatism.. Dot looks like it has some protruding lines, roommate one says it looks like a triangle but he's opinion is questionable....Roommate two has a similar view as mine. Possible that all three of us have this? Dot is a perfect circle when a photo is taken..Finally ordered a mount from primary arms and like always extremely fast shipping...until usps sent it back to texas when it was an hour from my house. You guys looking at it indoors or outside in sunlight? Unless I'm outside where it's bright I get a good starburst effect. Also you can deploy your buis and look at the red dot through that to see if it's just your eyes or the sight itself. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 4:09:43 AM EDT
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Another MRO down. Let me give you a little background. I bought my very first AR 15 in November 2015 and along with it I bought what I thought was going to be a great red dot sight the Trijicon MRO. Being this is my first red dot sight I didn't know what u was looking at or looking for. At first the red dot seemed to be a little fuzzy and not a crisp red dot. That was bearable at that time. Fast forward to today. Now my red dot looks like it is a Chinese character/symbol. Keep in mind I've only shot roughly 500 rounds with my AR/ Trijicon MRO combo. I did call customer service and spoke to technical support and he said to send it in for warranty replacement. they told me to fill out a return with and send it in. I don't think a $550 product should fail so fast with a relatively low round count. On a side note I found a great deal on an Aimpoint t1 for $540 which I'm going to put on my AR pistol. If this works out to be better I will sell my MRO and get another Aimpoint. Update: A trijicon tech support rep called me today after I sent them a bad review regarding the MRO and their return/warranty policy. I mentioned that I shouldn't pay for shipping on a defective product and I shouldn't wait 2-4 weeks for a replacement. After speaking to the rep they agreed to send me a new MRO (which was sent out today) and they sent me a return label for the defective one. Tech support has done their job so far. Let's see how my new MRO is going to be. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 5:14:55 AM EDT
[#50]
Seems like a lot of the negative reviews are mainly found here. Across the net the consensus is that the optic is solid. First gen "anything" is always a bad idea to buy but given trijicons rep most people are confident the optic will work. I'm still debating between this and an aim point t2. The negative reviews have me on the fence amd it's a shame cuz this optic could put a serious dent into aim points market share. I may wait a couple of more months and see what the reviews are then. If I had to pick right now I'd buy the t2 with the money I get back from eotech.
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