Hey all - just looking at Monroe County's pistol permit website
http://www.monroecounty.gov/clerk-pistolpermits.php I am seeing a few new, and wacky requirements...
One is all the damn hoops to jump through to take possession of a handgun from a deceased person...(I will be dealing with this in 5-10 years...my grandfather has a very nice collection of 20-30 WWII handguns and other nice pistols)
Adding a Gun from a Deceased - In order to add a gun from a deceased person, you will need a custody report from a police agency or receipt from a dealer, a Letter of Testamentary from Surrogate's Court that shows the appointment of an Executor or Administrator of the estate, a notarized statement from the Executor or Administrator of the estate granting permission to the person wishing to add the gun, and the permit of the decedent or a copy of the death certificate. You may contact Surrogate's Court for proper paperwork at 585-428-5200.
A custody report from police or a dealer??...so now you have to either turn all of the guns into some incompetent local police agency? Or the NYSP? Who will probably "lose" them...Or you have to turn them all into an FFL, who will ultimately charge you $50 per handgun to transfer back to you???
A letter from Surrogate's Court showing that an Executor has been appointed??? That sounds like a real pain in the ass.
A notarized letter from the Executor...This used to be the only requirement, no?
And the deceased's permit or death certificate...I guess that is easy enough.
This is insane.
SECOND...another NYS hometown thread got me looking at the updated Monroe County pistol website...and for INDIVIDUAL (face to face) handgun sales in NY...
Adding a Gun from an Individual - When a gun is obtained from an individual, a dated notarized bill of sale or a notarized statement of permission is required to add it to the new owner’s permit. The bill of sale or consent statement must show the names, addresses, pistol permit carry numbers and the original date of issue of both the seller’s and the buyer's permit. The gun must be described by make, caliber, serial number and whether the gun is a revolver or semi-automatic.
A Bill of Sale will indicate that the seller will be removing the firearm(s) from their permit and will be transferring ownership to the buyer. The seller must also take the firearm off their permit by completing an amendment. A Consent Form indicates that the two individuals involved in the transaction will be co-registering the gun.
* Please note that you must be updated with a background Brady check prior to the addition of any firearm from an individual. This check must be completed once every 5 years and there is no cost to the permit holder. Please stop into our office with your pistol permit to complete the paperwork. You will receive the completed Brady check in the mail in approximately 4 to 6 weeks and this is to be kept for your own personal records. Once you receive this paperwork, you will be allowed to add firearms from an individual.
A notarized bill of sale?...that never used to be required...It used to be just go into the county clerk's office with the other individual, fill out 1 simple amendment form listing make, caliber, serial number, address etc. and they do the amendment....Now you both have to get a notarized bill of sale drawn up???
And lastly...What the hell is this 5 year Brady check thing when dealing with individual sales? Is this because you aren't going through an FFL and getting an NICS check? So they make you wait 4-6 weeks to pass an NICS check (if your Brady check has lapsed that is)?? Even though a brady check is usually INSTANT???
Monroe County is getting to be a pain in the ass...used to be great...at least we have same day purchase coupons...no 3 week wait for amendments...Yet.