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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:04:55 PM EDT
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re: legality, read Penal Code Chapter 46, and search for "club."
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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:55:52 PM EDT
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 You're far better off with this streamlight SL20. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 2:39:28 PM EDT
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A good sap or blackjack is not a bad idea at all to carry, and now that the dems helped to get them removed from 46 as prohibited items, they are legal. This stems from those women who were arrested for those "kitty keychain" doodads.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 3:01:51 PM EDT
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Gtg
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Posted: 2/22/2021 6:28:36 PM EDT
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Not worth the hassle. They will take up a lot more room than you think.
Legal yes, with some conditions. Its in the Penal Code. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 3:17:01 PM EDT
[#6]
heavy
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Posted: 2/24/2021 3:34:00 PM EDT
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Worthless. Go buy a tire thumper at a truck stop.
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Posted: 2/24/2021 3:46:10 PM EDT
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Expandable batons suck as weapons. Get a small can of Sabre Red pepper spray.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 12:45:27 PM EDT
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i carry one
batonwarehouse.com is a real thing... mine is for knocking the shit out of dogs that want to get uppity with me, though |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i carry one batonwarehouse.com is a real thing... mine is for knocking the shit out of dogs that want to get uppity with me, though There we go! Exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks TexRdnec! |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:45:08 PM EDT
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From using them as a cop ASP sucks for striking. The best thing they were good for was reaching under cars to retrieve bags of dope.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 5:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Expandable batons suck as weapons. Get a small can of Sabre Red pepper spray. Serious question: Why do they suck? They LOOK like ti would be pretty easy to break an arm , or a skull. CMOS |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 7:10:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious question: Why do they suck? They LOOK like ti would be pretty easy to break an arm , or a skull. CMOS They don't work as intended. They just aren't good. An aluminum T ball bat is a thousand times better. I prefer pepper spray. It works 99.9% of the time. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 9:20:42 PM EDT
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Guy I used to work with was in the army in Germany and said the local police used something was effective and made a distinct sound on someone's head. I don't know of thats allowed in here.
But why woild you want to get that close to someone that intends to do you harm? Getting in close you also run the risk of otherwise gushed against you unless you really know what you're doing? And if you're going to hit someone in the head with an aluminum bat or tire thumper which to me is lethal force wouldn't a gun be a better option? |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guy I used to work with was in the army in Germany and said the local police used something was effective and made a distinct sound on someone's head. I don't know of thats allowed in here. But why woild you want to get that close to someone that intends to do you harm? Getting in close you also run the risk of otherwise gushed against you unless you really know what you're doing? And if you're going to hit someone in the head with an aluminum bat or tire thumper which to me is lethal force wouldn't a gun be a better option? it's a useful tool and nice to have if you don't mind carrying it that said, if you have the means, a nice shot of propane to the face will stop whatever the fuck anything living is doing |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 8:51:56 PM EDT
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I've seen a zillion videos of people getting wailed on with them to no significant effect, or at least no immediate effect.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 9:49:20 PM EDT
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I've only ever carried one because of dogs. I don't think they would work at all on an actual vicious dog. They work great on the "wannabe" mean dogs
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Posted: 3/3/2021 11:02:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've only ever carried one because of dogs. I don't think they would work at all on an actual vicious dog. They work great on the "wannabe" mean dogs Really? Wouldn't take an uppity dog down a peg or two? My buddy hsas one and I wouldn't want to be hit with it. |
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Posted: 3/3/2021 8:59:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? Wouldn't take an uppity dog down a peg or two? My buddy hsas one and I wouldn't want to be hit with it.  Watched one tear a medium size dog apart like a blender while the owner beat the shit out of it with a 2x4. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 10:33:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really? Wouldn't take an uppity dog down a peg or two? My buddy hsas one and I wouldn't want to be hit with it. I feel like you've never been hit with a stick. Do you think a one inch wooden dowel would be an effective weapon? Don't get me wrong, it's not going to feel good to be massaged with one, but it's not going to stop a human, or dog, that is determined to do something. Collapsible steel batons are too thin, don't have enough heft, and have just a bit too much flex to be effective as a weapon. There's a reason they're considered compliance devices for police. Unless you hit a person in certain sensitive areas, you can basically wail on someone without causing serious/permanent injury. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 1:24:54 PM EDT
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Never carried anything like that. I always thought the leather slap with the weighted end would motivate the shit out of someone. I took a couple of criminal justice classes in college to fill out a scholarship while I was trying to figure out what to do with my life. One of the instructors was a 60 something year old semi-retired police captain with the local police department. He had some war stories from the early 1960's through the 80's.
He talked about one of his coworkers splitting some guys forehead open with one of those things trying to force a resistant prisoner into a jail cell. He said more than anything, the guy bled all over the place, caused a huge mess and didn't make anyone on the police department look very professional. |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 10:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It might. Depends on your definition of vicious. I wouldn't want to find out against somebody's 70 pound solid meat fight dog in the Grove. Watched one tear a medium size dog apart like a blender while the owner beat the shit out of it with a 2x4. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really? Wouldn't take an uppity dog down a peg or two? My buddy hsas one and I wouldn't want to be hit with it. Watched one tear a medium size dog apart like a blender while the owner beat the shit out of it with a 2x4. Punching straight down on the snout/eyes of a black lab that wanted to eat my leg seemed to work for me. (thank goodness). If you're going to play the ASP/baton game, get gains first?  I unfortunately have nothing else to offer except for Texas Penal Code Title 10, Chapter 46 (Weapons) . You can also look at 46.05 in that link for more of the legalese speak. Edited/updated due to my gross lack of reading comprehension.
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Posted: 3/5/2021 3:45:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nightsticks are still prohibited, clubs are not anymore I think you're reading that wrong. 46.01(1)(B) defines "nightstick" as a type of club. That's the only place where "nightstick" appears in PC 46. |
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Posted: 3/5/2021 6:04:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you're reading that wrong. 46.01(1)(B) defines "nightstick" as a type of club. That's the only place where "nightstick" appears in PC 46. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nightsticks are still prohibited, clubs are not anymore I think you're reading that wrong. 46.01(1)(B) defines "nightstick" as a type of club. That's the only place where "nightstick" appears in PC 46.  Boy did I read that wrong. Good catch. |
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Posted: 3/7/2021 11:04:47 AM EDT
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Get a sap/blackjack.
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