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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Total gun control Apr 2, 2006 NICS shut down. No gun purchases

Posted: 4/3/2006 6:41:41 AM EDT

And now is the time for all the dealers and individuals in America to contact their senators and congressmen. Every citizen, including police officers or any other kind of law enforcement, was denied the right to purchase a firearm of any kind for the entire day. I don't know how many laws were broken yesterday, but NICS is an instant background check, not a call us tomorrow or the next day check. This is the 2nd time this has happened in the last 6 months. That is all.

Posted: 4/3/2006 6:59:49 AM EDT

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And now is the time for all the dealers and individuals in America to contact their senators and congressmen. Every citizen, including police officers or any other kind of law enforcement, was denied the right to purchase a firearm of any kind for the entire day. I don't know how many laws were broken yesterday, but NICS is an instant background check, not a call us tomorrow or the next day check. This is the 2nd time this has happened in the last 6 months. That is all.

Just another reason to have TX CHL as well....

Posted: 4/3/2006 9:32:17 AM EDT

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Thing is, the gun I am going to use for my CHL class is at my dealer while I wait out the "delayed" status!

Posted: 4/3/2006 11:12:22 AM EDT

[#3]

WTF?

Were they just not approving, or not there, computers down etc......

Posted: 4/3/2006 11:17:57 AM EDT

[#4]

good thing our store wasn't open yesterday

Posted: 4/3/2006 11:31:29 AM EDT

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WTF?

Were they just not approving, or not there, computers down etc......

Lemme see, I started calling them at 10:30 am CST and from then until about 7 PM CST I heard
"System problems are preventing access to the information necessary to perform background checks"

I only heard it about 150 times yesterday!

Bastages

Posted: 4/3/2006 12:30:55 PM EDT

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Lemme see, I started calling them at 10:30 am CST and from then until about 7 PM CST I heard
"System problems are preventing access to the information necessary to perform background checks"

I only heard it about 150 times yesterday!

Bastages

Damn. I was going to wait until Sunday on the off chance the wife felt up to going. I'm glad I didn't.

Posted: 4/3/2006 4:06:35 PM EDT

[#7]

Yeah we got that all day yesterday at Gander Mountain. All the customers/prospective gun buyers made it like it was my fault that the government has it's head up it's ass.

We just put the guns on hold for them and said they could come back today to get them....assuming NICS was back up

Posted: 4/3/2006 4:48:29 PM EDT

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Yeah, it was a PITA @ Pruetts yesterday. Luckily for me, I only had to call twice, but sucks for the customer who buys an AR and can't take it home.

Posted: 4/4/2006 5:17:52 AM EDT

[#9]

a chl holder would not have been affected in any way.

Posted: 4/5/2006 6:16:53 AM EDT

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a chl holder would not have been affected in any way.

Yea, that would be great in a perfect world, but since only about 10% of the folks have CHL's, that leaves a lot of folks SOL especially in states that don't have CHL.

Posted: 4/5/2006 12:28:08 PM EDT

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I thought the law was written such that if NICS doesnt come back with a "denied", then you are good to go.... if the system is "down", it cannot come back "denied". Puts the impetus on NICS to have 100.0000% uptime.

Posted: 4/5/2006 1:40:13 PM EDT

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I thought the law was written such that if NICS doesnt come back with a "denied", then you are good to go.... if the system is "down", it cannot come back "denied". Puts the impetus on NICS to have 100.0000% uptime.

Please cite your source for this belief. Others were saying such thoughts this past Sunday so I pulled out the Book O' Laws provided by the BATF and found nothing to support this loophole. I then called NICS and asked and they said there was no such provision under the law. I think this is a matter of wishfull thinking. Maybe it should be the law, but it is not.

Posted: 4/5/2006 1:55:41 PM EDT

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I thought the law was written such that if NICS doesnt come back with a "denied", then you are good to go.... if the system is "down", it cannot come back "denied". Puts the impetus on NICS to have 100.0000% uptime.

Please cite your source for this belief. Others were saying such thoughts this past Sunday so I pulled out the Book O' Laws provided by the BATF and found nothing to support this loophole. I then called NICS and asked and they said there was no such provision under the law. I think this is a matter of wishfull thinking. Maybe it should be the law, but it is not.

Actually what you're referring to is the three business day rule on a delayed status...IMHO.

If you get a delayed on your initial call, and do not hear back by the end of three full business days, then you can proceed. Example: Call Saturday, get delayed. If you open up on Thursday morning without having heard back from the FBI/NICS, then it's a "proceed". That is the only thing I know that refers to them coming back with a denied...

AND I'm proud to say I got my first "denied" on a customer. The customer did not seem a bit surprised when I said "This is going to be delayed, please take my business card and call me to see if I've heard from them. Thanks"

Posted: 4/5/2006 10:05:08 PM EDT

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a chl holder would not have been affected in any way.

Yea, that would be great in a perfect world, but since only about 10% of the folks have CHL's, that leaves a lot of folks SOL especially in states that don't have CHL.

Ok well I just moved (back) here from Tennessee and I just went and got my license and asked about my CHL, I have a Tennessee CHL (HCP there) and they gave me a number to call and asked about getting in exchanged for a Texas CHL, well was told they don't do that and to just keep my Tenneesse License till it expires in 2009 then go get a Texas. So that being said would my Tenessee CHL with a Texas Drivers license work for buying a gun without the check? Don't know just wondering and will go get a Texas one in the next month or so anyways.

Thanks

Posted: 4/6/2006 12:30:33 AM EDT

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a chl holder would not have been affected in any way.

Yea, that would be great in a perfect world, but since only about 10% of the folks have CHL's, that leaves a lot of folks SOL especially in states that don't have CHL.

Ok well I just moved (back) here from Tennessee and I just went and got my license and asked about my CHL, I have a Tennessee CHL (HCP there) and they gave me a number to call and asked about getting in exchanged for a Texas CHL, well was told they don't do that and to just keep my Tenneesse License till it expires in 2009 then go get a Texas. So that being said would my Tenessee CHL with a Texas Drivers license work for buying a gun without the check? Don't know just wondering and will go get a Texas one in the next month or so anyways.

Thanks

No, it will not. The Concealed Handgun License is valid only in the state it was issued.

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