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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:09:01 PM EDT
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S&W is over priced ar15 if a person going to pay $1700 for AR15 the wilson combat has more bang for your buck.
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:13:33 PM EDT
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I agree on the price. Just didn't know about quality, heck, even reliability?
It seems to me a new product would be priced a little lower to get the market going. Maybe even a few (good) reviews, then jack-up the price. If it flops, I would think the price would drop along with production. Dave |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:32:58 PM EDT
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I looked at them at H and H in OKC. They had the tactical model for $1299. It was nice. It had the free float quad rail forend, flip sights, etc. I believe the sights were Troy, but had smith logos on them. The rifle appeared to be of very good quality and the trigger felt good.
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:36:18 PM EDT
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Thanks Dr.Baker, When I'm back in OKC, I go to H&H and take a gander at these rifles!!!!
Hmmmmmm, "Dr/Doctor", as in PhD or M.D. or both or DVM, D.O. or........well you get the picture. |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:42:43 PM EDT
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Not a doc. Still working on my MBA.
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:49:18 PM EDT
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Sounds good, I'll start on my Masters this summer. The wife FINALLY finished her PhD in environmental science....(no shes not one of those @#$* tree huggers)!!!
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:50:21 PM EDT
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875 ~ is dc on the cheaper models..... 1186...on the tactical....
an ar is an ar if you ask me.... unless your building something special or you just want the name..... |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 8:57:20 PM EDT
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Thanks acman, I kinda agree, just wandering about S&W coming out of the chute on an AR15.
Do they really want to make a good product,diversify,or help flood the market with another AR15?? Dave |
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Posted: 2/24/2006 9:14:37 PM EDT
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yea. no flame intended if it came off that way..... i didn't really mean it to sound as smart ass as it did after i read it
 i'm just not hung up on names when it comes to AR's..... if it's reliable and what i'm looking for... i'm all about affordable.. I won't derail your thread with the AR stuff i'm interested in ..... i need to do at least one serious post every now and then....... but i have my eyes on some new RRA offerings myself.....i'm off to start a diffrent thread |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 5:46:43 AM EDT
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I'm not the most experienced here, but I dug around on the EE for a while to get an estimated cost of building a somewhat identical rifle to the tactical model. complete lower w/6pos stock $250 upper, bolt carrier group $215 handguard (daniel defense/la rue/etc) $275 troy flip sights $245 barrel and gas block $240 rail covers $20 Total $1245 vs the MP15 price of $1299 I'm sure some of the prices are off a little, but I think it's about what the average joe would pay for the same quality, equivalent parts to those of the MP15. I would consider spending the extra money. You get a case, magazine, papers, and complete warranty. Plus no headaches from dealing with 6 different vendors at one time and did I mention I can't stand to wait for anything. |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 6:12:59 AM EDT
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beats me man an AR is an AR, I built a SS barreled, free float tube, entry stocked A4 carbine for 6 bills outta of a M1S kit on a ameetec lower, mounted a 502 eotech on it that I picked up at OA for $230 OTD, coulda done it for just a bit more if I went with the J&T kit, but I didn't know about those guys at the time, accuracys fine for what I use it for, but of course I like my ARs plain, don't really care for a bunch of stuff hanging off of one, adds too much weight, if I want to lug aheavy AR around I'd carry my 10 all the time.
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Posted: 2/25/2006 6:50:32 AM EDT
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like i said in the post above this one.......
if it's what you want and you feel it's the right price have at it.... My whole thing with ar's is a factory stock ar will outshoot 95 % of the people who own them.myself included.... the rest is about accesories and product name.... |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 7:10:27 AM EDT
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Ed Zackery |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 7:50:33 AM EDT
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The dealer I buy form the most can get Smiths M4 version for $950 +tax. It also has the fat front handguards as well as a LIFETIME warrenty. Bushy only offers a 1 year.
The Railed version of teh mith AR is selling for $1200 to $1300. The Smith is in the price range of other ARs out in the market. Yes, I intend to buy one. Hell I building my own also and allready have $2083 in the damn thing. |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 3:22:08 PM EDT
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I'm not even going to get started here.....except that you won't see the 357/44 Baine and Davis wildcat cartridge in a S.& W. because of the weak frames.....and if you do they're newer models with good metal..... I also see it as an AR is an AR.... unless you're customizing it then I can understand spending that much money to make this rifle unique ....,but other than that....news flash......the ban has lifted and they're not worth $1800 bucks for a run of the mill looks like every other "M4 profile" you can get.....sorry, I said I wouldn't get started but I get sensitive about some things....lol
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Posted: 2/25/2006 3:37:53 PM EDT
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thats cause your a  go find the bread thread you can swap recipies......
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Posted: 2/25/2006 3:51:44 PM EDT
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I thought you had $2083.58 in it? 
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Posted: 2/25/2006 3:56:29 PM EDT
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I stopped counting the change..... |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 4:34:50 PM EDT
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ARs are nice, but REAL men have M14 variants!
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Posted: 2/25/2006 4:40:04 PM EDT
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Is that why you only have AK's??? 
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Posted: 2/25/2006 5:03:09 PM EDT
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AKs, ARs, and M14s. Never could make up my mind which I really like best!  May have the real thing coming - a GI issue M14 if I can swing the deal! 
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Posted: 2/25/2006 5:07:34 PM EDT
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Would it have the happy switch? |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 5:10:52 PM EDT
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It don't matter if it do. I can add one. It has to be registered as an NFA anyway, whether or not it comes with it. I don't know if you've ever shot one with the switch on, but they ain't for shit in accuracy after the second shot, no telling where round 3 or 4 will be at 100 yds. |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 6:52:42 PM EDT
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If I want any lip out of you I'll pull down your pants! |
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Posted: 2/25/2006 7:45:15 PM EDT
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The only lip you'll find there is residue from your GF when i'm in town 
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Posted: 2/25/2006 7:49:17 PM EDT
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Boys, be nice!
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Posted: 2/26/2006 2:26:41 PM EDT
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Dan you're just jealous cause we're givin you hell about your Broke Knee Adventures.
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