I know what you mean Dan, I went to school to learn another trade, then spent the next couple of years looking for a job, nobody was biting, finaly sunk to a new low, and started carrying a gun for a casino, not that it was a bad experiance, had alot of fun, first job I ever had where I could tell a customer to STFU! when they started arguing with me and not get fired, and if they wanted to fight, well.......then, I got to throw down on'em, only had one that didn't back down, but he got the idea real quick that he wasn't going to come out well at all and decided to take to the door, had some that got real tough and brave once they made it to their cars, then jump back out with something in their hands in a not so well lit parking lot, but again the light bulb came on real quick when they realized they were fixing to leave feet first flat on their backs, these were the types that were asked to never come back, sometimes it was fun and got the heart pumping, sometimes it wasn't, but in this new job I still get to be present and work closely with security, tribal and others when customers get drunk and froggy, but its all hands off now(kinda like the pope and nuns) and I have to listen to not only customers, but whiney assed employees complain and bitch, then make decisions when they can't unass their heads, but its a good learning experiance for later when I decide to run for governor of the tribe, so if you think I'm twisted now, just stand back and watch me then, the media will have to leave a transmitter right there at the agency so they don't miss the story.