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Posted: 8/22/2004 2:35:35 PM EDT
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I don't believe there is one. Is your AR15, .223? Can't take deer with it.......can do varmints though. |
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Posted: 8/22/2004 2:39:13 PM EDT
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there is a limit but i swear i cant remeber what it is...im thinking 5 rounds
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Posted: 8/22/2004 2:46:40 PM EDT
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Really.. i thought anything .22 or above was legal to take deer with in VA?
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Posted: 8/22/2004 4:09:22 PM EDT
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Rifles for Deer must be 23 cal or larger.
www.dgif.state.va.us/hunting/regs/display.cfm?p=general_hunting_regulations#Concealed |
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Posted: 8/22/2004 4:28:31 PM EDT
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Thats pretty pathetic.. if i can use a handgun i should be able to use a .223 which has more than enough energy.
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Posted: 8/22/2004 7:20:56 PM EDT
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No magazine limit that I know of.
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Posted: 8/22/2004 7:46:28 PM EDT
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thx.. for your help. Looks like i'll have to go out of state to hunt dear with my ar15.
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:57:26 AM EDT
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Ummm... yeah you will and I'm glad about that. Yes, it is possible to kill a deer with a .223, or even a .22LR, but its MUCH more likely that you'll never recover it. Yes, you can hunt with a handgun with less "energy" but energy isn't everything. Mass, momentum and wound channel are what actually do the work. Personally, I'd like to see .30 carbines and a few others banned for deer as well. Its a crying f-ing shame that we need regulations to enforce ethical hunting practices. Oh yeah... the only magazine capactiy limits only apply to shotguns. Its three. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:59:22 AM EDT
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Crap! Gotm4 was at my house last night and it looks like he was still logged in when I posted this. Sorry... the above post was mine. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 5:00:15 AM EDT
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Yup , none, at least thats what the game warden said when I asked him. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 8:43:38 AM EDT
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Only mag limit is on shotguns. 3 rounds max regardless of what you're hunting. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 10:37:15 AM EDT
[#12]
+1 and amen |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 8:12:34 PM EDT
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I never hunt with less than a 30 caliber rifle. In a handgun round...I use a 41 magnum. Ethical hunters who want quick and clean kills are the only hunters that should be in the woods. |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 5:15:58 PM EDT
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10-4
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Posted: 8/24/2004 5:30:56 PM EDT
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So you're saying that anyone who uses anything less than a .30-06/.308/etc. isn't ethical? |
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Posted: 8/24/2004 6:37:07 PM EDT
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No. Just those who insist on using inappropriate calibers and ammunition for deer. There are a fair number of dopes out there who seem to think deer are a great training aid for thier mall cop/commando exercises. Deer are to be respected and pursued with respect and ethics. If you can do that and use a black rifle, more power to ya. If not, take up paintball guns. |
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Posted: 8/25/2004 3:58:17 AM EDT
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Looking at getting that 243 WSM upper for mine to use it for deer season. There are many other caliber conversions so you can use the AR. YMMV.
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Posted: 8/25/2004 5:23:44 AM EDT
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I've heard nothing but good stuff about the WSM. People seem to like it even more than they like the original .243. I do love the range of bullet weights that makes it more than appropriate for everything from squirrells to medium deer. I see a standard .243 in my future some time. |
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Posted: 8/25/2004 8:31:28 AM EDT
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They have those for AR15 lowers? Or AR10 lowers? For regular gun season this year I'm planning on using my .50 Beowulf along with my Rem 700 .30-06. Some day I'd like to get a 6.5 Grendel upper too. |
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Posted: 8/25/2004 9:51:21 AM EDT
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AR15 lowers. It is a shorter round so it will fit. Just different mag followers. That and the ammo is available now. |
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Posted: 8/25/2004 10:04:41 AM EDT
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Are you sure you don't mean .243 WSSM? The WSM family is based on a cartridge the same length as the .308 and there is not currently a .243 listed for it. There is a .243 WSSM that has an OAL of 2.36". It will sling a 95 grian bullet at 3200 FPS and if the bullet will hold together on impact, that would make an adequate deer gun. Still a bit marginal for my tastes, but you could do worse.
Who makes an upper for it? |
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Posted: 8/25/2004 11:21:19 AM EDT
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is this what you meant?? cliffy beat me to the punch........ 
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Posted: 8/25/2004 11:56:23 AM EDT
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I guess this is the upper made for it .243 upper
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Posted: 8/25/2004 1:16:17 PM EDT
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There's always the 6.8. That should be an awesome whitetail round,as there are many good softpoints for .277 cartridges.
It's sort of idiotic that I can't hunt deer with a 64gr SP .223 load, but I can use a .45auto upper to hunt them (no ft. lbs floor for rifles). |
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Posted: 8/25/2004 1:34:59 PM EDT
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Bingo that is it The Olympic PCR-8
Cliffy/Shivan-Yes the .243 WSSM 
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Posted: 8/25/2004 3:08:30 PM EDT
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You'll just have to find ammo for the 6.8. 
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