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Posted: 1/7/2023 4:51:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: winddummy82]
A lot of us know Todd as a 2A beast and champion of all things RTKBA. give him a like and a share. Todd deserves our support for everything he does for us.

IL -- Gun Ban passes Committee



Link Posted: 3/28/2023 5:22:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Did Illinois ban MOST semi-auto shotguns?
Link Posted: 4/3/2023 7:06:19 AM EDT
[#2]
Illinois' Mag Ban Isn't What They Say It Is
Link Posted: 4/3/2023 3:58:18 PM EDT
[#3]
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Originally Posted By winddummy82:
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So does this basically mean we cannot carry autoloaders unless the magazine has no floorplate?  I don't think gluing or welding will work either.  ISP will just arrest you and let the courts work it out.  That you will lose your guns forever seems to me a forgone conclusion.  We know local police are very reluctant to give your gun back when there is no crime.  How do you think ISP will treat you?  They can run your plates, find your CCL, and pull you over for a slow lane change and voila!  Yeah, it's illegal as hell but you cannot beat city hall.  The law abiding are much easier to catch than a criminal who games the system.
Link Posted: 4/4/2023 5:08:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Back to my 1911's with the welded metal base plate mags? Or the hiPower 15 round welded metal base plate mags.


Link Posted: 4/4/2023 5:44:15 PM EDT
[#5]
BREAKING NEWS: Judge Finds Red Flag Law Unconstitutional...
Link Posted: 4/5/2023 3:51:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Illinois' Shotgun Ban is Broader Then They Say It IS -- Mini shells
Link Posted: 4/6/2023 3:39:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Did Illinois Ban Sales of Remington 870s?
Link Posted: 4/6/2023 7:03:25 PM EDT
[#8]
2A HISTORY LESSON FOR SUPER GEEKS: How an Anti-2A Judge in NYC Helped Save the 2nd Amendment
Link Posted: 4/7/2023 11:46:48 AM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By Yore353:
Back to my 1911's with the welded metal base plate mags? Or the hiPower 15 round welded metal base plate mags.


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I'm not welding shit.
Link Posted: 4/7/2023 12:24:02 PM EDT
[#10]
It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart.  He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc.  He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose.  The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times.  I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly.
Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it.
Link Posted: 4/7/2023 2:08:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By F14ADC:
It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart.  He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc.  He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose.  The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times.  I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly.
Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it.
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I dont think you give them enough credit. This was YEARS in the making. They see how the BATF can change definitions on a whim and fiqure a State Legislator could get away with even more.

10 minutes after the copy of the law was available, I brought up mini shells, how their definition of a shroud prety much describes any forend on a stock, convertable. Look back through my posts here.

Their definations where picked carefully to out law every semi auto period. Maybe not now but a year of five down the road. One big step then several little ones.

Who does the interpitation ? You or them. I'll give you a clue its not you.
Link Posted: 4/7/2023 3:48:10 PM EDT
[#12]
They carefully did a lot of cut and paste from other states laws.
Link Posted: 4/7/2023 4:41:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ARMALITE-FAN:


I dont think you give them enough credit. This was YEARS in the making. They see how the BATF can change definitions on a whim and fiqure a State Legislator could get away with even more.

10 minutes after the copy of the law was available, I brought up mini shells, how their definition of a shroud prety much describes any forend on a stock, convertable. Look back through my posts here.

Their definations where picked carefully to out law every semi auto period. Maybe not now but a year of five down the road. One big step then several little ones.

Who does the interpitation ? You or them. I'll give you a clue its not you.
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Link Posted: 4/7/2023 4:54:20 PM EDT
[#14]
Well you all could be right I guess.
Link Posted: 4/9/2023 3:58:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By F14ADC:
It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart.  He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc.  He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose.  The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times.  I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly.
Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it.
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It doesn't matter who wrote it or why.  Government will always use very angle to abuse it's power.
Link Posted: 4/9/2023 4:38:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/10/2023 9:01:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By F14ADC:
It appears to me that Todd gives the state legislature too much credit for being smart.  He believes the legislature wrote this law intentionally this way with all of this magazine extensions, Remington 870 pumps illegal, conventional rifle firearms are somehow “shrouds” etc.  He may be correct that his extrapolation of the law is correct, but I doubt very seriously if they did it that way on purpose.  The whole law reads as a slew of disjointed items, thrown together like a burgoo and repeated several times.  I seriously doubt anyone but Todd has actually read it throughly.
Anyway so it stands, nothing short of a dinosaur meteor die off in Springfield and Chicago will fix it.
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I have said it in other threads here before. Never underestimate your enemy. That is how we got into this mess.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 8:44:12 AM EDT
[#18]
Illinois State Rifle Association predicts federal court injunction against state's gun ban
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 10:38:24 AM EDT
[#19]
We will see.
Link Posted: 4/13/2023 5:44:26 AM EDT
[#20]
After federal judge hears challenge to IL's gun ban, plaintiffs confident law will be overturned
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 7:02:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Quick recap on gun ban hearing
Link Posted: 4/16/2023 4:29:52 AM EDT
[#22]
Harrel v. Raoul plaintiff discusses challenge against Illinois' gun and magazine ban
Link Posted: 4/17/2023 5:04:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Dear Hillary Hipsters, Miley Millennials and Participation Trophy Panzies
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 11:20:13 PM EDT
[#24]
The Next SCOTUS 2A Case is Coming...
Link Posted: 4/19/2023 11:40:26 PM EDT
[#25]
IL Supreme Court holds appeal of DeVore TROs in gun ban challenge pending outcome of Caulkins case
Link Posted: 4/20/2023 6:12:52 PM EDT
[#26]
Gun-Owning Federal Judge BLASTS Anti-Gun Illinois Lawyers AR Ban Case...
Link Posted: 4/28/2023 7:02:19 PM EDT
[#27]
HUGE 2A NEWS: Federal Court Declares Assault Weapon and Magazine bans to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL...
Link Posted: 4/28/2023 7:34:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Federal Judge issues Injunction Again Illinois Gun Ban
Link Posted: 4/28/2023 10:26:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Supreme Court 2A Decision Brings An End To "Assault Weapon" And Magazine Ban!!!
Link Posted: 4/30/2023 7:57:55 PM EDT
[#30]
4/30 Update State Seeks Stay of Injunction
Link Posted: 5/2/2023 5:43:10 PM EDT
[#31]
MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: SCOTUS Issues Unusual Order in AR-15 and Magazine Ban case
Link Posted: 5/3/2023 12:17:29 AM EDT
[#32]
Supreme Court Decision To Immediately Stop "Assault Weapon" & Magazine Bans!!!
Link Posted: 5/3/2023 5:31:13 PM EDT
[#33]
5/3 Update on Illinois Gun Ban
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 6:52:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skunkhunter] [#34]
The party is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCen82emNc&t=1s



Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:47:00 PM EDT
[#35]
5/4 update7th Circuit issues Stay of Injunction
Link Posted: 5/5/2023 5:24:05 PM EDT
[#36]
5/5 update the Morning After the Stay
Link Posted: 5/5/2023 6:54:05 PM EDT
[#37]
5/5 update #2 Freedom Week Guns Declared Illegal 1//1/24
Link Posted: 5/5/2023 9:37:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Here is an opinion I hope is right.  TL;DR the judge may have overstepped his bonds by granting this stay, forcing SCOTUS to intervene.  We are watching history being made boys and girls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsVcTbDaTt0&t=311s
Link Posted: 5/5/2023 11:18:33 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By Skunkhunter:
Here is an opinion I hope is right.  TL;DR the judge may have overstepped his bonds by granting this stay, forcing SCOTUS to intervene.  We are watching history being made boys and girls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsVcTbDaTt0&t=311s
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Supreme Court Immediate Block of "Assault Weapon" & Magazine Bans Coming!?!
Link Posted: 5/6/2023 7:27:17 AM EDT
[#40]
When a Supreme Court Justice Wants to Pick a Fight Over Assault Weapon Bans
Link Posted: 5/9/2023 11:38:19 PM EDT
[#41]
5/9 Explanation of where we are
Link Posted: 5/12/2023 7:08:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Seventh Circuit expedites combined AWB cases.  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piLW0qT-Vkg&t=202s
Link Posted: 5/12/2023 7:41:13 PM EDT
[#43]
SCOTUS Could Rule on Naperville Monday
Link Posted: 5/12/2023 8:13:37 PM EDT
[#44]
5/12 Breaking News 7th Circuit Tries to Head Off SCOTUS
Link Posted: 5/15/2023 10:49:27 AM EDT
[#45]
5/15 Orders List -- Nothing Happened
Link Posted: 5/15/2023 2:18:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Good update...bad news. Not looking good
Link Posted: 5/16/2023 9:19:00 AM EDT
[#47]
Line in the sand boys. Someones gotta start this party. Looks like it might be us.
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 5:28:10 AM EDT
[#48]
HB218 Illinois Tries to get around Protection in Lawful Commerce Act
Link Posted: 5/17/2023 5:57:32 PM EDT
[#49]
BREAKING -- SCOTUS Denies Request for Injunction in Naperville
Link Posted: 5/22/2023 4:18:27 PM EDT
[#50]
I wonder what the relationship of JB to Reichsmarschall Hermann Goring is, they sure look like brothers, probably could share clothes
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