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Posted: 3/27/2023 4:20:38 PM EDT
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Contacts for the Judiary committee:
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Posted: 3/27/2023 4:31:40 PM EDT
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Here is a sample letter. If you choose to send something, you should change it up, but here are some good points:
------------------ Hello, My family and I have lived in CO for ***** years and I am contacting you to voice my strong opposition to HB 1230, the "Assault Weapons Ban." This is based on three main arguments: "False Justification"-- The prima facie justification for HB1230 is to reduce "mass shooting"-- however, the fact is that regular semi-automatic handguns are used in "mass shooting" and crime in general at a rate about 20x that of semi-automatic rifles. "Impact to Law-Abiding citizens and Common-Use"-- HB1230 will outlaw many classes of popular firearms that regular law-abiding citizens use for hunting, sport, competition, and recreational shooting, not to mention legitimate, legal self-defense. "Legally Pointless, Inevitable Strike-Down, and Cost"-- Furthermore, with the "BRUEN" US Supreme Court precedent set last summer, a law like HB1230 is certain to be struck down. In the meantime, it will improperly burden law-abiding citizens and cost the State of Colorado funds in pointless court fights, that they will lose at the USSC. BRUEN info here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/20-843 Please drop HB1230. Sincerely, ** **** **, ****** |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 6:24:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Ryan Armagost got right back to me. Said he will oppose.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 6:48:15 PM EDT
[#4]
Same here.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 8:30:24 PM EDT
[#5]
So they are going for it after all?
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Posted: 3/28/2023 10:56:46 AM EDT
[#6]
Not a fan of Denver but this seems too important to miss.
Safe to assume that there will be metal detectors upon entry? No knives, etc., correct? Just trying to plan accordingly. Anyone else planning to attend? |
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Posted: 3/28/2023 11:52:36 AM EDT
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Just found out about it. I will try and attend. I always said that I would make the effort to show up in person and stand up for my rights. In the past, I have always had conflicts and could not make it. Never make it easy for them to take your rights away. They want you to be slaves.
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Posted: 3/28/2023 3:36:05 PM EDT
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Just got this in text———
CO assault weapons ban hearing postponed. Apparently 400 people were showing up testify in opposition. Dem leadership pulled it for now. Expect to see them try and sneak it an again - like they did this time. Good job everyone. |
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Posted: 3/28/2023 5:25:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got this in text——— CO assault weapons ban hearing postponed. Apparently 400 people were showing up testify in opposition. Dem leadership pulled it for now. Expect to see them try and sneak it an again - like they did this time. Good job everyone. Thanks! I will go ski tomorrow instead. |
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Posted: 3/28/2023 9:30:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got this in text CO assault weapons ban hearing postponed. Apparently 400 people were showing up testify in opposition. Dem leadership pulled it for now. Expect to see them try and sneak it an again - like they did this time. Good job everyone. |
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Posted: 3/28/2023 10:56:29 PM EDT
[#11]
One word for all you black pillers Bruen !
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Posted: 3/29/2023 1:36:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Thanks for the update. This is good news. For now...
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Posted: 3/30/2023 11:36:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2023 12:50:40 PM EDT
[#14]
when Schutz signs those, which of course he will, will they go into effect immediately or later?
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Posted: 3/30/2023 4:59:02 PM EDT
[#15]
They're all bad, but this one is concerning;
"Senate Bill 170 adds district attorneys; teachers, school counselors and college faculty; and, health care providers, including mental health professionals, to the group of people who can apply for an extreme risk protection order. Its most significant amendments requires parties in a petition to keep confidential health care information, when it is used to seek a petition, and, to require petitions not filed by family or household member to be filed in the county where the person deemed at risk resides." I wouldn't trust most of the people in that group with my grocery list, but the state wants to give them the power to revoke my rights? 
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Posted: 3/30/2023 7:04:00 PM EDT
[#16]
RFL's are dead they just don't know it yet--
https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/21/21-11001-CR2.pdf |
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Posted: 3/30/2023 10:31:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/30/2023 11:03:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote Historyas if I was going to comply anyway |
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Posted: 4/4/2023 9:23:06 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: as if I was going to comply anyway Only fools comply with unjust laws. |
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Posted: 4/5/2023 8:54:56 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.coloradopolitics.com/legislature/package-of-gun-bills-nears-polis-desk-final-hurdles-remain/article_17081334-cdb4-11ed-b48a-4beb93ddcd69.html There's still a slough of shit coming. |
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Posted: 4/6/2023 10:16:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: u-haul time, boss. So many people want to run away at the first sign of trouble |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 5:55:58 PM EDT
[#22]
RESCHEDULED TO WED APR 19 -- JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
IF WE CAN GET 400 PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO TESTIFY AGAINST AGAIN, GOOD CHANCE THIS GOES AWAY FOREVER SIGNUP LINK https://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/signIn.xsp |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 10:40:05 PM EDT
[#23]
Ironically, April 19 is when the Red Coats were attempting confiscation.
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Posted: 4/12/2023 10:48:04 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a fan of Denver but this seems too important to miss. Safe to assume that there will be metal detectors upon entry? No knives, etc., correct? Just trying to plan accordingly. Anyone else planning to attend? One thing you should plan for is for the date and time to get changed last minute to fuck with people trying to attend. They will absolutely do that to minimize attendance, so plan to be flexible. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 9:43:49 AM EDT
[#25]
I knew they would try to pull this shit again.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 9:55:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Between an AWB and 80% ban, Colorado is poised to make thousands of law abiding citizens who never harmed anyone into outlaws with the stroke of a pen.
I don't think the AWB will pass (this time) but I bet it does in the next legislative session. I do think there's a good chance the 80% ban will be rammed through in record time. It clearly violates Colorado's constitution which explicitly prohibits gun registration, but that don't mean shit without a judge willing to strike it down. And it's got Rino support from fake conservative pieces of shit like Mike Coffman (aka Colorado McCain). The CSOC (county sheriffis of Colorado) who in the past stood with the people against previous infringements are awful quiet on the matter these days. Good luck fellas and ladies in Calirado. It was a good place once. |
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Posted: 4/14/2023 1:23:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Between an AWB and 80% ban, Colorado is poised to make thousands of law abiding citizens who never harmed anyone into outlaws with the stroke of a pen. I don't think the AWB will pass (this time) but I bet it does in the next legislative session. I do think there's a good chance the 80% ban will be rammed through in record time. It clearly violates Colorado's constitution which explicitly prohibits gun registration, but that don't mean shit without a judge willing to strike it down. And it's got Rino support from fake conservative pieces of shit like Mike Coffman (aka Colorado McCain). The CSOC (county sheriffis of Colorado) who in the past stood with the people against previous infringements are awful quiet on the matter these days. Good luck fellas and ladies in Calirado. It was a good place once. They will pass it if we don't push back hard. They still might even if we do IMO. |
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Posted: 4/14/2023 1:26:15 PM EDT
[#28]
the commirado Politburo is going to do whatever they want to do regardless of the will of the people
I will not comply |
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Posted: 4/14/2023 9:06:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the commirado Politburo is going to do whatever they want to do regardless of the will of the people I will not comply Rights aren't supposed to be subject to the will of the people, feels or politicians. |
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Posted: 4/17/2023 12:17:00 PM EDT
[#30]
According to the signup it’s moved to 9:30 am.
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Posted: 4/17/2023 5:30:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the signup it’s moved to 9:30 am. Came in here to say this @Zak-Smith can you update the OP? |
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Posted: 4/18/2023 12:22:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Sent a letter. Can't make it down.
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Posted: 4/18/2023 4:24:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the signup it’s moved to 9:30 am. Yup. Expect further fuckery and have your 1-2 min speech ready. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 8:46:01 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Expect further fuckery and have your 1-2 min speech ready. I'm traveling myself but I'd be there. Did send a letter. They knocked put possession which was in the original bill..they also dropped the felony part. A lot of legal analysts still say it won't make it the way its written. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 12:08:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Audio can be found here: https://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/signIn.xsp
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Posted: 4/19/2023 12:19:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Epps keeps saying "it's about the guns" over and over, but then says it's about race... :/
Now she is basically saying that her ultimate goal is not just to ban sales of assault weapons but she wants to ban possession outright. And crying and babbling on... Now sounds like she is worried that the bill won't pass so now she may want to submit an amendment to limit the bill to ban just bumpstocks and whatever?? |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 12:34:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Epps keeps saying "it's about the guns" over and over, but then says it's about race... :/ Now she is basically saying that her ultimate goal is not just to ban sales of assault weapons but she wants to ban possession outright. And crying and babbling on... Now sounds like she is worried that the bill won't pass so now she may want to submit an amendment to limit the bill to ban just bumpstocks and whatever?? Thanks for the update. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 12:34:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: God's speed guys. I'm traveling myself but I'd be there. Did send a letter. They knocked put possession which was in the original bill..they also dropped the felony part. A lot of legal analysts still say it won't make it the way its written. The shitty part is they can always add the possession part back. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 1:51:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Epps keeps saying "it's about the guns" over and over, but then says it's about race... :/ Now she is basically saying that her ultimate goal is not just to ban sales of assault weapons but she wants to ban possession outright. And crying and babbling on... Now sounds like she is worried that the bill won't pass so now she may want to submit an amendment to limit the bill to ban just bumpstocks and whatever?? |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 1:54:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The shitty part is they can always add the possession part back. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 2:44:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Do we have any updates?
Seems like more against then for. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 2:47:56 PM EDT
[#42]
Listening.
Feels, feels, authoritarianism, and more feels and authoritarianism. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:07:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Listening. Feels, feels, authoritarianism, and more feels and authoritarianism. It's always like that. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:07:53 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they do that any remaining support they have will evaporate I hope you are right. Any further updates? |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:10:22 PM EDT
[#45]
What's going to happen when some PoS uses a bolt action 7 mm Mag and the nannies'find out that the 5.56 pales in comparison? Rhetorical question.
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:22:00 PM EDT
[#46]
The FPC guy is great and saying what I would say.
BTW, happy Lexington and Concord Day. |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:23:31 PM EDT
[#47]
Any idea on how many showed up to oppose?
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:28:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Authoritarian mentioned separation of church and state, and that rights are given by government. Ayn Rand would set her straight.
WOW |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 3:56:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Authoritarian mentioned separation of church and state, and that rights are given by government. Ayn Rand would set her straight. WOW |
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Posted: 4/19/2023 4:46:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Don't remember. I was listening to chunks while working and getting interrupted.
 ETA - This was in reference to rights being "God-given." This phrase is interchangeable with "inherent" as far as we heathens are concerned because we all have the ability to make (presumably) rational decisions and act on them. That ability exists regardless if it came from a deity or evolved, and is the moral and rational basis for the individual having the right to their own life and derivative "rights" such as the right to defend one's own life and the right to the fruits of one's own labor (like that AR you bought  ). |
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