https://www.nraila.org/articles/20181207/washington-anti-gun-group-announces-2019-agenda

I dont come to this forum for fun anymore. Its just to post this shit

When they do that shit, I just send them a letter that lets them know many gun owners are not going to comply with their bullshit.

There is a book titled, "Discipline and Punish" written by the French philosopher Michel Foucault.
In the book, he described and espoused the building of a structure he dubbed the "Panopticon" and the concept of Panopticism originally proposed by a fellow named Jeremy Bentham.

From Wikipedia:

Jeremy Bentham proposed the panopticon as a circular building with an observation tower in the centre of an open space surrounded by an outer wall. This wall would contain cells for occupants. This design would increase security by facilitating more effective surveillance. Residing within cells flooded with light, occupants would be readily distinguishable and visible to an official invisibly positioned in the central tower. Conversely, occupants would be invisible to each other, with concrete walls dividing their cells. Due to the bright lighting emitted from the watch tower, occupants would not be able to tell if and when they are being watched, making discipline a passive rather than an active action. Strangely, the cell-mates act in matters as if they are being watched, though they cannot be certain eyes are actually on them. There is a type of invisible discipline that reigns through the prison, for each prisoner self-regulates, in fear that someone is watching their every move.

In Discipline and Punish, Michel Foucault builds on Bentham's conceptualization of the panopticon as he elaborates upon the function of disciplinary mechanisms in such a prison and illustrates the function of discipline as an apparatus of power. The ever-visible inmate, Foucault suggests, is always "the object of information, never a subject in communication".

He adds that, "He who is subjected to a field of visibility, and who knows it, assumes responsibility for the constraints of power; he makes them play spontaneously upon himself; he inscribes in himself the power relation in which he simultaneously plays both roles; he becomes the principle of his own subjection".
Foucault offers still another explanation for the type of "anonymous power" held by the operator of the central tower, suggesting that, "We have seen that anyone may come and exercise in the central tower the functions of surveillance, and that this being the case, he can gain a clear idea of the way the surveillance is practiced".
By including the anonymous "public servant," as part of the built-in "architecture" of surveillance, the disciplinary mechanism of observation is decentered and its efficacy improved.

By individualizing the subjects and placing them in a state of constant visibility, the efficiency of the institution is maximized.
Furthermore, it guarantees the function of power, even when there is no one actually asserting it.
It is in this respect that the Panopticon functions automatically.

Washington State is rapidly becoming a form of a Panopticon in which a digital electronic 24/7 surveillance state is being run by a Liberal Socialist (prison guards/administration) Ruling Class who feel absolutely entitled to complete power and control for eternity.

A prison without walls is still a prison nonetheless.

There aren't enough freedom-loving Conservative Christian people left here to stop it nor turn things around.

All that is left now is to escape the prison.

Yea we are in for it now. 594 was an appetizer, 1639 the beginning of the main course now we will get the whole enchilada.

I will not comply at all. With anymore laws. I'm done with this shit.

This...

You are so programmed already, you ignored another option

By all means...please enlighten me.

But, but...they got I1639 passed?  Wasn't that enough?  Why aren't they satisfied and stopping?

We all know the answer to the above.

If 1639 wasn't enough to get all gun owners to unite and get off their a$$es and vote to defeat such things, I'm not exactly sure what will...(tho with ~1.1M NO votes on 1639, there was a solid grass roots attempt...it wasn't like alotta folks didn't step up...so no disrespect to them).

But while there are some efforts, such as HB 1022 and 1024 related to trying to block some things like generation of a gun owner registration in WA, by and large, it's not looking good for the Evergreen State  (and OR) for that matter.  They've now got control in Olympia, and that won't change for at least a couple years (if at all).  Which is setting up for a legislative onslaught against the law-abiding gun owner.

Preemption is the big ticket/brass ring they're after...if they succeed with overturn that, its going to turn into a shitshow, and you'll be kissing semi-auto ownership (particularly semi auto rifles, but others as well) goodbye, at least as we know it today, shortly thereafter in most/all the counties where 1639 passed, which is most of the Puget Sound and Spokane.

Additional training requirements...saw that coming a mile away...cuz ya know, that's just common sense...that'll just expand and expand...

Expanding soft target areas ('safe school zones')...mindless idiocy...they're obviously soooo effective, let's make more.

Unless the tide turns (unlikely), WA will be rivalling NY and CA in a few years.  It's sad to say, WA is a great state with lots of outdoor heritage, hunting traditions, shooting sports, etc.

Gonna be some tough choices for many in the near future.

BOSS

Unfortunately I see every one of those things passing especially the magazine ban.  This sucks.

I'm dreading the ever more likely possibility of online sellers adding WA to the usual 'No sales to CA, CT, DC, MA . . .'

This sucks balls.

Buy cheap and stack deep fellas.

Is that the law that says smaller municipalities cant have laws greater than state law? Is preemption only in regards to firearms or does it effect other things too?

If they get rid of it, is that open season on how they regulate gun ownership in cities, counties, etc....? Could that mean outright bans or what?

Welcome to Kali North...

Yes, RCW 9.41.290: https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.290

Currently, the STATE sets firearms laws, and cities, counties, and other jurisdictions may not.  So if you're complying with state law, you're good throughout the entire state.

If pre-emption gets overturned, you'll have ALOT of varying laws throughout the state...dozens, maybe hundreds...you may be completely legal in one county not another, or legal in the county, but not legal when you go into the city limits, or vice versa.  Your local mayor or city council could enact city ordnances however they like if they choose to ignore the Constitutions (state and federal).  Maybe they'll ban possession of 'semi automatic assault rifles' (as we now have the term coined).  Maybe they'll vote not to recognize the state issued CPL? It'll suck to be you. How much liquid cash to you have to fight such things?

It'll be a major pain.in.the.ass.  King County - will like move to ban all 'high velocity assault weapons' as they've publicly stated in their 'Action Plan.'  And as the city council seems to pretty much do whatever it wants...pretty much anything semi-auto--bye bye.

Plan accordingly.

BOSS

Yes. Firearms Only.
If preemption is done away with imagine how much fun it would be if you lived in Burlington, Skagit County and you wanted to drive to participate in an LCR.

In Burlington you can own an AR15 with a high capacity magazine and you can carry concealed.
In Mt Vernon you can't own an AR15.
In Snohomish County it's illegal to posses a high capacity magazine.
In King county it's illegal to own an AR15 that has a threaded barrel and it's illegal to transport an AR15 in anything other than a locked hard sided gun case that is not in the passenger compartment of the vehicle.
In Seattle it's illegal to own an AR15 and high capacity magazines and you can't CCW.
In Pierce County it's legal to own an AR15 and CCW, high capacity magazines are illegal.

That's why the state preemption law can't be allowed to be taken away.

Second Amendment Foundation

With both houses in Dem control, we are screwed.

Donated

Wow, that is quite complicated - I didn't even know about any of these laws. The state pre-emption needs to stay in-tact!

I live in King country, this is going to be bad.

This is really about seattle wanting to ban shit on their own w/o state oversight....... imagine that, they dont like higher Gov regulating them

With all the signature collectors at places like WalMart who will hit you with a feel good proposition like helping homeless vets or protecting senior citizens, but on their second and third clipboards are the anti-gun propositions they also want you to sign as well and without telling you what you are about to sign.  That happened to me last year when the signature gatherer tried to pull a fast one by telling me that I had to sign the second roster to make the first roster count...  After reading the second roster, which related to a gun restriction proposal, I ended up crossing out my name on the first roster since the bitch lied to me.

Point being is that's how they will get this done...  By collecting enough signature so it can be voted on in the next election cycle.

We are basically phucked big-time since most people are pretty stupid and believe that the signature collectors are telling them the truth without taking a moment to read what the hell they're about to sign.

North Carolina, Georgia and Florida are starting to look really good cuz this once great State is on the same collision course California was on back in the late 80s.  And its not just the gun related issues, but shit like my car tabs to cover the ST3 project...  That will never be finished.  Plus, my property taxes keeps going up around $1,300.00 a year, which is BS.

Don't get your hopes up about getting fair and equal justice in the Washington State Supreme Court either.

Time after time, they have proven themselves to be judicial activists in the pocket of the Leftists/anti-gunners.

I will be Strategically Re-Locating to a Free State.

Washington Now:
One of the Worst Gun States, gonna get worse.
One of the Worst Tax States, gonna get worse.
One of the Worst Retirement States, gonna get worse.

It's a Shame...

Washington State Supreme Court,
Now Fifth Most Liberal in the Country.