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Posted: 7/8/2022 6:15:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Got my primary ballot in the mail this week. The Senate candidates are Jim Lamon Blake Masters Michael McGuire Justin Olson Mark Brnovich Brnovich has done next to nothing about the election fraud in spite of being in a position to do something, and it seems like he was literally embarrassed into doing what little he did. I've spent a lot of time on election analysis and imo Brnovich's handling of it is shameful, so he's out for me. It looks like Lamon and Masters are the only others on the short list. Masters seems to have a lot of out of state money which could be good or bad, reports are he got Trump's endorsement after Trump met all three basically because Trump liked him, didn't like Brnovich due to election fraud handlin (with him there) and thought Lamon was trying too hard. I'm genuinely undecided on the senate race other than no Brnovich, so I'm curious as to everyone's pro/con on the list. I feel the same way you do about Brnovich. Up in the air at this point between Masters and Lamon. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 8:03:34 PM EDT
[#2]
Slight tangent... I just noticed Michelle Ugenti-Rita -- the one that's been blocking most election integrity
work -- is running for Republican secretary of state. That's a bigger Nope than Brnovich for me. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 8:09:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel the same way you do about Brnovich. Up in the air at this point between Masters and Lamon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Got my primary ballot in the mail this week. The Senate candidates are Jim Lamon Blake Masters Michael McGuire Justin Olson Mark Brnovich Brnovich has done next to nothing about the election fraud in spite of being in a position to do something, and it seems like he was literally embarrassed into doing what little he did. I've spent a lot of time on election analysis and imo Brnovich's handling of it is shameful, so he's out for me. It looks like Lamon and Masters are the only others on the short list. Masters seems to have a lot of out of state money which could be good or bad, reports are he got Trump's endorsement after Trump met all three basically because Trump liked him, didn't like Brnovich due to election fraud handlin (with him there) and thought Lamon was trying too hard. I'm genuinely undecided on the senate race other than no Brnovich, so I'm curious as to everyone's pro/con on the list. I feel the same way you do about Brnovich. Up in the air at this point between Masters and Lamon. Same here... |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 8:09:53 PM EDT
[#4]
This has my interest as I received my ballot today.
My first step will be to vote for NO ONE who is currently in office. I have to research each candidate as I have given fuck all about politics and candidates in the last year or so. "Tries too hard" unfortunately describes how I feel about Kari Lake. Her talking points are just too perfect and I feel like she's totally manufactured. Although I do kinda like her, its between her and Salmon for me. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 8:20:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Tag for info.
I'm not sure, personally, but I'll vote for anyone who can beat the ASStronaut. That guy is garbage. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 8:48:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This has my interest as I received my ballot today. My first step will be to vote for NO ONE who is currently in office. I have to research each candidate as I have given fuck all about politics and candidates in the last year or so. "Tries too hard" unfortunately describes how I feel about Kari Lake. Her talking points are just too perfect and I feel like she's totally manufactured. Although I do kinda like her, its between her and Salmon for me. Salmon dropped out. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:07:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: snip "Tries too hard" unfortunately describes how I feel about Kari Lake. Her talking points are just too perfect and I feel like she's totally manufactured. Although I do kinda like her, its between her and Salmon for me. If that's the case, you're voting for Lake -- Salmon withdrew from the race and is backing Karrin Taylor Robson. I'd already decided on Lake, I feel the same in the sense that she's clearly saying all the right things -- but it's all the right things to conservatives and she's not pulling punches. Honestly the main thing for me is that they've made it very clear she's not part of the crony AZ state Republican machine, which IMO is one of the biggest problems the state has right now, they're the ones electing RINOs and covering up election fraud for the Dems, probably because they had a hand in it. Of the roster Lake was the only one that's clean in that regard, and that probably is why she got Trumps endorsement. I'm a bit surprised Fann endorsed Robson as well. Lake is leading Robson by quite a bit, Robson's main base is never-Trump republicans. Hobbs is virtually guaranteed the Dem slot, so it's either a Lake v. Hobbs or Robson v. Hobbs race, and Lake has way more recognition than Robson, and back in February was the only one polling as beating Hobbs. God forbid if Hobbs wins, as they'll institutionalize the fraud we saw in 2020 and there'll be no turning back. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:11:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Salmon dropped out. After they printed the ballots, apparently. He's on mine. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:12:26 PM EDT
[#9]
OK. Now I have to figure out the rest.
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:48:11 PM EDT
[#10]
I just got mine and don't know who half these people are or what they truly represent. I've got some research to do.
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Posted: 7/9/2022 1:25:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Brnovich sucks ,and needs to go .
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Posted: 7/9/2022 7:51:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Tries too hard" unfortunately describes how I feel about Kari Lake. Her talking points are just too perfect and I feel like she's totally manufactured. Although I do kinda like her, its between her and Salmon for me. I agree that she comes across as a little too polished and overproduced which can seem fake. I think that came from her news days. After some of the long-form interviews that I've seen her give, I think she's genuine, but I wish she would be a little more down to earth. |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 7:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brnovich sucks ,and needs to go . Agreed. He talked so tough about a bunch of stuff, but he never delivered. And it was too little too late for him on the election shenanigans. Very disappointing. |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 9:12:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Brnovich is at the bottom of my list. Arizona’s election got stolen under his watch.
Not a huge fan of McGuire either. I spent 11 years in the Arizona Guard, and was never impressed by him. He used Covid as an excuse to set himself up for a senate run. Any time Ducey was on TV, McGuire was no more than 10 feet from him. He seems very much like a politician, which is not something we need another one of in office here. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 1:10:05 AM EDT
[#15]
Masters for senate.
Lake for governor. Taylor Robson was put in as a candidate by the McCain faction and the establishment RINOs. She's got the backing of Ducey and Cindy McCain. Those two endorsements are enough to tell me that she would be awful as governor. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 11:58:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Maybe it’s just me, but the more rags like Washington post come out against Lake, and now the AZ RHINO Association is backing Robson, that’s just cements my vote for Lake
As to the other candidates, is there an ‘America First’ , or similar group that we can run all these candidates through? |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree that she comes across as a little too polished and overproduced which can seem fake. I think that came from her news days. After some of the long-form interviews that I've seen her give, I think she's genuine, but I wish she would be a little more down to earth. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Tries too hard" unfortunately describes how I feel about Kari Lake. Her talking points are just too perfect and I feel like she's totally manufactured. Although I do kinda like her, its between her and Salmon for me. I agree that she comes across as a little too polished and overproduced which can seem fake. I think that came from her news days. After some of the long-form interviews that I've seen her give, I think she's genuine, but I wish she would be a little more down to earth. The same people that hate her are the same people that I hate... That's all I need to know. Look at her enemies and you'll know who she is. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:42:37 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After they printed the ballots, apparently. He's on mine. He folded on guns when we had the UofA nursing school shooting here when he was running against nappy, he's a weak suck |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:48:16 PM EDT
[#19]
gezzus...
I swear some are just never satisfied. People cried about Trump NOT being polished and now some are crying about Lake being TOO polished. Policy, not personality, should always inform your vote. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 6:16:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Masters for senate. Lake for governor. Taylor Robson was put in as a candidate by the McCain faction and the establishment RINOs. She's got the backing of Ducey and Cindy McCain. Those two endorsements are enough to tell me that she would be awful as governor. this |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 7:05:25 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm starting to lean Masters now as well. He seems to live well outside the RINOsphere.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 7:07:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: gezzus... I swear some are just never satisfied. People cried about Trump NOT being polished and now some are crying about Lake being TOO polished. Policy, not personality, should always inform your vote. I voted for Lake. But she seems to be the gubernatorial-candidate equivalent of a manufactured boy band. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 8:12:15 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got mine and don't know who half these people are or what they truly represent. I've got some research to do. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 10:30:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted for Lake. But she seems to be the gubernatorial-candidate equivalent of a manufactured boy band. As long as she's singing the tune I want to hear 
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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:14:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as she's singing the tune I want to hear Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I voted for Lake. But she seems to be the gubernatorial-candidate equivalent of a manufactured boy band. As long as she's singing the tune I want to hear Just hope she doesnt Flip when she gets in office Whats the dirt on Masters? He seems too good. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:34:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just hope she doesnt Flip when she gets in office Whats the dirt on Masters? He seems too good. Masters is a well polished RINO and fan/follower of George Soros! |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 10:07:59 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just hope she doesnt Flip when she gets in office Well....Salmon flipped BEFORE he got in office and I'm thankful he showed that he's a weak suck with no conviction by bailing on gun owners back in the day. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 2:32:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After they printed the ballots, apparently. He's on mine. This will be my first time voting in AZ in 40 years. I registered to vote two months ago. Am I supposed to receive my ballot in the mail? Haven't seen one yet. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 2:52:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This will be my first time voting in AZ in 40 years. I registered to vote two months ago. Am I supposed to receive my ballot in the mail? Haven't seen one yet. Only if you signed up for early voting. Normally you get a notice to sign up but if your registration is that new you might have missed the early voting cut-off for primaries, mine came either with or right around the same time as my voter ID. You can check with the county recorder on dates but if you haven't gotten a ballot I'd assume you need to vote in person, recorder will also know your precinct. Did you get your voter ID card yet? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 3:34:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Masters is a well polished RINO and fan/follower of George Soros! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just hope she doesnt Flip when she gets in office Whats the dirt on Masters? He seems too good. Masters is a well polished RINO and fan/follower of George Soros! you got something to back that up? seems unlikely T$ would endorse him if he was connected to soros |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:24:43 PM EDT
[#31]
I hate to be the bearer of bad juju but the ill be gotten saying "the lesser of two evils" applies to every political party, that includes the Republican party.
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:31:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if you signed up for early voting. Normally you get a notice to sign up but if your registration is that new you might have missed the early voting cut-off for primaries, mine came either with or right around the same time as my voter ID. You can check with the county recorder on dates but if you haven't gotten a ballot I'd assume you need to vote in person, recorder will also know your precinct. Did you get your voter ID card yet? Thanks for the info. Yes, I received the card. I've always voted in person except for the years I was outside CONUS. This is a small town, so the line shouldn't be too long |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:44:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate to be the bearer of bad juju but the ill be gotten saying "the lesser of two evils" applies to every political party, that includes the Republican party. I don't support either party. I'm registered as an independent. Republican are just as shit-baggy as the dems. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 12:39:00 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you got something to back that up? seems unlikely T$ would endorse him if he was connected to soros Just a Connected Republican that attends all the meetings and also told me that Trump was booed in Las Vegas for his NV. picks. T doesn't get them all right...look at his picks in GA. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 12:51:43 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you got something to back that up? seems unlikely T$ would endorse him if he was connected to soros I've been digging and so far I haven't found anything. The only stuff that keeps coming up is Peter Thiel, which is no surprise since Masters literally worked for his foundation (and is being bankrolled in part by him.) I am finding a lot of attack stuff from left-leaning (and Soros connected) organizations so it seems unlikely he's backed by them, but if anyone else finds something please post it. I will say there is some whacked "news" from fringe media out there that needs sources disclosed, and even that didn't indicate any Soros support that I could find. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 4:06:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Olson > Lamon > Masters > McGuire > Brno
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Posted: 7/12/2022 4:07:25 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Slight tangent... I just noticed Michelle Ugenti-Rita -- the one that's been blocking most election integrity work -- is running for Republican secretary of state. That's a bigger Nope than Brnovich for me. She blocked Townsend bills, which were shit. She has passed other ones. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 4:08:14 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This has my interest as I received my ballot today. My first step will be to vote for NO ONE who is currently in office. I have to research each candidate as I have given fuck all about politics and candidates in the last year or so. "Tries too hard" unfortunately describes how I feel about Kari Lake. Her talking points are just too perfect and I feel like she's totally manufactured. Although I do kinda like her, its between her and Salmon for me. Salmon is withdrew. Robson is a RINO. Funded the commie Gallegos. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 4:09:24 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Masters for senate. Lake for governor. Taylor Robson was put in as a candidate by the McCain faction and the establishment RINOs. She's got the backing of Ducey and Cindy McCain. Those two endorsements are enough to tell me that she would be awful as governor. Masters is Peter Thiel, Silicon Valley, WEF |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 4:39:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Masters is Peter Thiel, Silicon Valley, WEF Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley, yes. Thiel pretty much hates the WEF. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 5:09:56 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote Historyhttps://www.weforum.org/people/peter-a-thiel https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=peter&status=&class_year=§or=®ion=a0Tb00000000DC9EAM |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 5:40:05 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.weforum.org/people/peter-a-thiel https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=peter&status=&class_year=§or=®ion=a0Tb00000000DC9EAM Yes, and Thiel has separated himself from the organization and openly criticizes it now ("I got sick of it, it's not a truth seeking place."), per my above link. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 6:30:48 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.weforum.org/people/peter-a-thiel https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=peter&status=&class_year=§or=®ion=a0Tb00000000DC9EAM Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.weforum.org/people/peter-a-thiel https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=peter&status=&class_year=§or=®ion=a0Tb00000000DC9EAM lots of people change their minds, T$ used to be a democrat, so did I |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 7:51:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, and Thiel has separated himself from the organization and openly criticizes it now ("I got sick of it, it's not a truth seeking place."), per my above link. Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, and Thiel has separated himself from the organization and openly criticizes it now ("I got sick of it, it's not a truth seeking place."), per my above link. Quoted: lots of people change their minds, T$ used to be a democrat, so did I I get that. However, why take that risk. When you can vote for someone with no baggage, such as Olson. Who had a proven record and has served AZ for years? |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 7:56:34 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that. However, why take that risk. When you can vote for someone with no baggage, such as Olson. Who had a proven record and has served AZ for years? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, and Thiel has separated himself from the organization and openly criticizes it now ("I got sick of it, it's not a truth seeking place."), per my above link. Quoted: lots of people change their minds, T$ used to be a democrat, so did I I get that. However, why take that risk. When you can vote for someone with no baggage, such as Olson. Who had a proven record and has served AZ for years? I'm not really a fan of life long politicians, that wasn't really what the founders had in mind |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 8:31:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that. However, why take that risk. When you can vote for someone with no baggage, such as Olson. Who had a proven record and has served AZ for years? From the research I've done since I first posted this, we're down to two candidates that are polling high enough that one will win, so the choice is really between Lamon and Masters. Lamon is getting backed by a whole lot of RINOs, and Masters is backed by Trump and a bunch of billionaire money, lead by Thiel who seems to be more libertarian than republican. The next issue is which of them would win against Kelly. The last election Kelly outraised McSally, with the totals of $99 million and $71 million. This election needs seriously deep pockets. I've found myself leaning towards Masters due to bring pragmatic about money winning races and not wanting another McCain-class RINO in the seat. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 11:43:13 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not really a fan of life long politicians, that wasn't really what the founders had in mind Olson is like in his mid 40s. |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 11:45:02 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the research I've done since I first posted this, we're down to two candidates that are polling high enough that one will win, so the choice is really between Lamon and Masters. Lamon is getting backed by a whole lot of RINOs, and Masters is backed by Trump and a bunch of billionaire money, lead by Thiel who seems to be more libertarian than republican. The next issue is which of them would win against Kelly. The last election Kelly outraised McSally, with the totals of $99 million and $71 million. This election needs seriously deep pockets. I've found myself leaning towards Masters due to bring pragmatic about money winning races and not wanting another McCain-class RINO in the seat. Lamon is extremely wealthy. One of the reasons I am leery of him is because of his solar business. But, I am less leery of that than someone being on the Facebook board and having not lived in AZ long before running |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 8:51:20 AM EDT
[#49]
Lake once registered as, and voted for the mocha jesus, even had a pic taken with the guy, but you're not suspicious of her past baggage, which is much more egregious than Blake's.
To be fair, neither am I, which is why I voted for her, and voted for Masters. Jay |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:25:54 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lake once registered as, and voted for the mocha jesus, even had a pic taken with the guy, but you're not suspicious of her past baggage, which is much more egregious than Blake's. To be fair, neither am I, which is why I voted for her, and voted for Masters. Jay Yeah, but let's be honest. I'm not sure having your picture taken with McCain is much better. |
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