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Posted: 7/31/2022 6:33:03 PM EDT
One word: Impressive. She devoured over 200 rounds of 124g mke brand ammo and 120 rounds of 115g CCI ammo, all without a hiccup. I mean it was a flawless performance and she was deadly accurate to boot. I didn’t think about snapping a pic of the target but the center Zero was completely ripped off. It only took a few rounds to set zero [Aimpoint PRO] at 25 yards and it was total bliss after that. The AP5 is a freaggin joy to shoot. Recoil is virtually non existent.
The irons were pretty spot on at 25 yards as well. Elevation was maybe 1-2” low, but windage was perfect. While firing the gun I inadvertently kept turning on the SF628. As much as I tried to avoid it my grip kept engaging the switch. SF use to sell a dedicated switch cover for these lights but it has been discontinued. I’m pretty sure I can make a clip-on switch cover out of kydex. I’ll work on the design asap. I ordered a AP5-P last week from Atlantic Firearms and it’s scheduled to deliver Tuesday so I hope to have another favorable range report by next Sunday. In closing it’s important to know that I prepped the gun by taking it apart to oil and lube the inner rails and bcg components. I also cleaned the barrel and put a few drops of oil on all the trigger springs and the selector switch. You’ll notice a difference on how much smoother it charges, afterwards. 
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Posted: 7/31/2022 6:43:43 PM EDT
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What brace is that? What mags? What red dot mount?
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Posted: 7/31/2022 6:53:14 PM EDT
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Very nice, thanks for posting.
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Posted: 7/31/2022 7:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What brace is that? What mags? What red dot mount? Looks like a safety harbor kes, that's an mke mag. The optic rail...im not sure |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 9:49:16 PM EDT
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Sweet Brace !!!
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a safety harbor kes, that's an mke mag. The optic rail...im not sure Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What brace is that? What mags? What red dot mount? Looks like a safety harbor kes, that's an mke mag. The optic rail...im not sure Great eye! The qd mount is a MIdwest Industries #MI-QDAPM. ** Just noticed I misread the question about the "optic rail". It's a UTG I purchased on amazon for $21. For the inexpensive price, it's actually a solid mount. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very nice, thanks for posting. You’re welcome. I’ll make sure to take target photos on my next range trip.:) |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:54:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet Brace !!! Thanks. It really is a bad azz brace. For the mp5-p I plan to go with a B&T retractable stock. Hint-Hint. Btw, Thank You for the great prices, service and fast shipping! |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 1:27:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the mp5-p I plan to go with a B&T retractable stock. Hint-Hint. It's fantastic 
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Posted: 8/1/2022 8:57:37 AM EDT
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Awesome! I had the same experience with my AP5P. It came zero'd from the factory and the rear sight is almost perfectly centered. It functioned 100% with all FMJ and 99% with our duty ammo (some variation of Hornady Critical Defense). I had one failure to feed, but I'm not sure that it's not a magazine break-in problem. I have one MKE mag that is a little gritty.
FYI, I had a lot of trouble reaching the selector so I purchased the SEF trigger housing/frame from HK parts. It was a tight fit but has a little bit smaller grip and looks better in my opinion. I'll post a picture after work. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 9:01:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re welcome. I’ll make sure to take target photos on my next range trip.:) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Very nice, thanks for posting. You’re welcome. I’ll make sure to take target photos on my next range trip.:) 
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Posted: 8/1/2022 3:07:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For the mp5-p I plan to go with a B&T retractable stock. Hint-Hint. It's fantastic https://i.imgur.com/rMSSmSd.jpeg That is Sexy af. The B&T retractable is an amazing brace/stock. Wish I didn't have to sell a kidney to buy one. Prices are getting ridiculous on some of these braces! |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 3:36:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is Sexy af. The B&T retractable is an amazing brace/stock. Wish I didn't have to sell a kidney to buy one. Prices are getting ridiculous on some of these braces! There used to be a coupon code that saved like $20 which i onow isn't much but at least it was something. Still witha mod1c it was like $550 |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 3:44:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There used to be a coupon code that saved like $20 which i onow isn't much but at least it was something. Still with a mod1c it was like $550 Have you seen the current prices for the Mod1c..? When you find one they're typically north of $350. I bought mine on GB last month for $245 and I thought I got a great deal. Regardless, your set-up is amazing! |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 4:07:24 PM EDT
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huh -
mod1c's used to be on clearance for $69 each |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 4:40:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: huh - mod1c's used to be on clearance for $69 each Those were the days, my friend |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 5:04:39 PM EDT
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I see the mount is Midwest Industries, what is the picatinny rail? That doesn't look like the one in Atlantic's pictures.
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Posted: 8/1/2022 5:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see the mount is Midwest Industries, what is the picatinny rail? That doesn't look like the one in Atlantic's pictures. I purchased the "core AP5" so no factory rail was included. The rail in the photo is a UTG model that I purchased on amazon for $21. For the inexpensive price, it's actually a solid mount. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 11:49:04 AM EDT
[#18]
Now with a SF LED module upgrade.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:56:36 PM EDT
[#19]
Great report.
My AP5-P was similiar with reloaded 124gr. I did not have such luck with the HK Straight magazines though. It would not feed. Someone recommended that I change the springs on these 50-60 YO mags. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 2:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great report. My AP5-P was similiar with reloaded 124gr. I did not have such luck with the HK Straight magazines though. It would not feed. Someone recommended that I change the springs on these 50-60 YO mags. I've read a few reports about the straight mages not working well with the MKE line. Hopefully yours will be gtg after you replace the springs. I'm anticipating another range trip on Sunday as I'm picking up my AP5-P later this afternoon. I'll just combine the reports on this thread. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 6:39:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've read a few reports about the straight mages not working well with the MKE line. Hopefully yours will be gtg after you replace the springs. I'm anticipating another range trip on Sunday as I'm picking up my AP5-P later this afternoon. I'll just combine the reports on this thread. I replaced the springs on mine and they are flawless with fmj, hollow points not so much. They did switch to curved mags for a reason. To be honest the straight mags are more for looks..at least for me |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:54:18 PM EDT
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So I picked up my AP5-P this afternoon and much to my surprise the serial number ends in 0772. My AP5, which was purchased last month has a serial number that ends in 0771. How cool is that..! Both have a five-digit serial number.
It’s the little things in life that excite me. |
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Posted: 8/10/2022 10:07:51 AM EDT
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Just a few more items left to complete the AP5-P. Hoping to get a chance to take it to the range on Sunday ...
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Posted: 8/10/2022 3:45:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I picked up my AP5-P this afternoon and much to my surprise the serial number ends in 0772. My AP5, which was purchased last month has a serial number that ends in 0771. How cool is that..! Both have a five-digit serial number. It’s the little things in life that excite me. [headbang I like things like that as well. Your matched set was meant to be. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 10:46:45 AM EDT
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Ok, so you guys have some cool set ups. I got my AP5 few weeks ago, have SHF retractable with tailhook. Gonna put the triangle handguard on mine. Regarding the reddot mounts, mine came with one. How does that one compare to some these you guys have, and is there a better one that won't break the bank?
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Posted: 8/11/2022 10:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, so you guys have some cool set ups. I got my AP5 few weeks ago, have SHF retractable with tailhook. Gonna put the triangle handguard on mine. Regarding the reddot mounts, mine came with one. How does that one compare to some these you guys have, and is there a better one that won't break the bank? I bought a MP5 UTG top rail on Amazon for my AP5 core and it's worked great, without any issues. I like it so much I bought another one for my AP5-P. The price....(((( $21 )))). |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 12:39:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a MP5 UTG top rail on Amazon for my AP5 core and it's worked great, without any issues. I like it so much I bought another one for my AP5-P. The price....(((( $21 )))). Just got tracking on my P model. Does this need a different mount or the same as the full size? Also what small parts should I stock up on. Also great setups here |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 12:48:33 PM EDT
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Thanks LOS....so I looked at the UTG. I see how pleased you are. Some of the reviews are...not great about fitment. How has your experience been with zero retention, fitment? Obviously your pleased and that a good price. Plus it looks like it has fairly decent mount hardware/set up compared to the MKE mount.
ETA: I'm an Aimpoint guy too, but figure I may run either a Romeo or maybe Holosun 510. Thanks for answering all my questions. And not doubting your experience, just pricing is all over the map for mounts. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 1:17:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks LOS....so I looked at the UTG. I see how pleased you are. Some of the reviews are...not great about fitment. How has your experience been with zero retention, fitment? Obviously your pleased and that a good price. Plus it looks like it has fairly decent mount hardware/set up compared to the MKE mount. ETA: I'm an Aimpoint guy too, but figure I may run either a Romeo or maybe Holosun 510. Thanks for answering all my questions. And not doubting your experience, just pricing is all over the map for mounts. You're welcome. When I first tried to install the mount on the AP5 it wasn't dropping completely level and even with the top of the gun. The issue is/was that the recessed areas underneath the mount that insert into the prongs on top of the gun are made to a tight tolerance. So I had to [lightly] tap the mount in with a rubber mallet. It went on pretty easily. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 1:28:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're welcome. When I first tried to install the mount on the AP5 it wasn't dropping completely level and even with the top of the gun. The issue is/was that the recessed areas underneath the mount that insert into the prongs on top of the gun are made to a tight tolerance. So I had to [lightly] tap the mount in with a rubber mallet. It went on pretty easily. Gotcha. Thanks for that. I'm gonna likely pick one up. |
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Posted: 8/11/2022 1:47:05 PM EDT
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I have one of the Walther manufactured and Umarex imported HK-branded .22lr MP5's and have the UTG mount on it, it's pretty solid.
Whichever one came with my AP5-P is a pain in the ass to get all 4 corners done. |
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Posted: 8/14/2022 3:07:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Went to the range and put through 250 rounds of assorted ammo.
Blazer 147 grain Remington 147 grain Lawman 124 grain My reloads 124 grain FMJ with 4.0 gr Titegroup A friends also had his AP5 with him. His was suppressed and he had Syntech subs and some Super Vel ammo. Neither of us had any issues. Both guns ran 100% with the MKE mags as well as HK mags. These guns are fantastic. If you’re on the fence you need to buy one.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2022 4:08:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Nice! Thanks for your report. Bet they were pretty accurate.
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:09:46 PM EDT
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Just got back from the range. Took the AP5-P out and it did not disappoint. Just like it's big brother, it's a fine shooter. I had no issues of any kind at the range expect for one at the beginning. I'll explain later. The little fella ate 210 rounds of MKE 124s with ease and also 30 rounds of CCI brass 115s. This thing is accurate! All shots were fired in a standing position, gun supported only by sling. This thing is a joy to shoot. I didn't even have to zero the Holosun. It was dead-on from the get go.
Here are a few photos..: Photo 1 shows a 30 round group fired at 20 yards. It was the first time firing the gun.  Close-up of photo 1  Photo 2 shows an additional 30 rounds fired at bulls eye, but at 30 yards.  Close-up of Photo 2.  Photo 3 shows 90 rounds fired at bulls eye, but target placed back to 20 yards.  Photo 4 shows a 30 round group fired above bulls eye with CCI 115s at 30 yards.  Close-up of Photo 4  All in all a perfect range trip. The MKE AP5 and AP5-P are definitely keepers. Oh, and as for the little issue that I had at the range.? Well, It happened before a shot was even fired. I left a little skin on the rail racking the charge handle for the mag insert. Rookie mistake.  |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:18:38 PM EDT
[#35]
Holy Buckets! Now I REALLY want one. AP5 CORE and then start putting on the goodies when in hand. Thank you OP for the review.
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:27:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy Buckets! Now I REALLY want one. AP5 CORE and then start putting on the goodies when in hand. Thank you OP for the review. Go for it. You will not regret it. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go for it. You will not regret it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Holy Buckets! Now I REALLY want one. AP5 CORE and then start putting on the goodies when in hand. Thank you OP for the review. Go for it. You will not regret it. Atlantic Firearms is going to get enriched a bit by Monday! I am wondering if I should just get the AP5 with the SB brace and get the Safety harbor setup later? |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:42:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Honestly, regardless of which one you purchase first, you’ll eventually end up purchasing the other. :)
The AP5 will shoot softer than the “P”, but the felt recoil on both is virtually non-existent. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 7:06:06 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, and as for the little issue that I had at the range.? Well, It happened before a shot was even fired. I left a little skin on the rail racking the charge handle for the mag insert. Rookie mistake. Strong reminder, get a good solid grip on that damn CH, cause if you go for an aggressive pull and slip off, you optic/rail is going to take a bite. 
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Posted: 8/20/2022 7:29:39 PM EDT
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One thing to note, and it's very well documented, is that the exposed trunnion will get a "little warm" as you fire more and more rounds down the pipe. Of course, wearing gloves will take care of the issue. I don't own gloves (yet) so I came home from the range with a thought on how to shield the hand from the heavenly warmth without having to wear gloves.
I love to work with kydex so it didn't take me long to design and make and mold a trunnion heat shield for my ap5p. of course, it also fits on my ap5. Will take it out and test it next week. The THS just snaps on. Here's a few pics... Exposed Trunnion on the ap5p  photos of the THS   photos of the THS on the ap5p right side  left side  |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 7:32:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, The big missing chunk on my left thumb just finished healing up from the same thing. Strong reminder, get a good solid grip on that damn CH, cause if you go for an aggressive pull and slip off, you optic/rail is going to take a bite. Yes, Sir. Mine is still a bit tender. lol. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 8:28:07 PM EDT
[#42]
MKE is the best deal in firearms around. They’re fine quality and a great way to get into the MP5 platform. For all the “clone” haters out there saying it is t a real HK, how many of your AR rifles/carbines were built by Colt?
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:03:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: MKE is the best deal in firearms around. They’re fine quality and a great way to get into the MP5 platform. For all the “clone” haters out there saying it is t a real HK, how many of your AR rifles/carbines were built by Colt? My thoughts exactly! I hate when someone calls it an MP5 “clone.” HK parts will interchange with it, and no one else calls any non-Armalite AR-15 a “clone.” We can debate on the quality of one manufacturer to another, but in the end, it’s the same platform. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 8:20:47 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: MKE is the best deal in firearms around. They’re fine quality and a great way to get into the MP5 platform. For all the “clone” haters out there saying it is t a real HK, how many of your AR rifles/carbines were built by Colt? I agree completely, although you’d be surprised about the number of AR-15 correctors out there. I’ve encountered quite a few over the years who have asked/challenged shooters whether their “AR-15” is a “real” Colt. Whether it’s an HK platform or an AR-15 platform firearm there is a great deal of snob appeal involved when someone starts disparaging one for being a “clone”. With the MKE made MP5, the irony is that it’s made on HK tooling to HK specs, while *ALL* AR-15s not made by Colt are reverse engineered copies. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 8:32:21 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree completely, although you’d be surprised about the number of AR-15 correctors out there. I’ve encountered quite a few over the years who have asked/challenged shooters whether their “AR-15” is a “real” Colt. Whether it’s an HK platform or an AR-15 platform firearm there is a great deal of snob appeal involved when someone starts disparaging one for being a “clone”. With the MKE made MP5, the irony is that it’s made on HK tooling to HK specs, while *ALL* AR-15s not made by Colt are reverse engineered copies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: MKE is the best deal in firearms around. They’re fine quality and a great way to get into the MP5 platform. For all the “clone” haters out there saying it is t a real HK, how many of your AR rifles/carbines were built by Colt? I agree completely, although you’d be surprised about the number of AR-15 correctors out there. I’ve encountered quite a few over the years who have asked/challenged shooters whether their “AR-15” is a “real” Colt. Whether it’s an HK platform or an AR-15 platform firearm there is a great deal of snob appeal involved when someone starts disparaging one for being a “clone”. With the MKE made MP5, the irony is that it’s made on HK tooling to HK specs, while *ALL* AR-15s not made by Colt are reverse engineered copies. Words of wisdom, fellas. Words of wisdom!! |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 10:08:15 AM EDT
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The MKE AP5 pistols are definitely the best deal on a roller lock pistol we have have seen in the last 15 plus years. The rebate offered by the importer ends in a few weeks and would anticipate prices starting to go up as we get into the fall. If you want one now is probably the best time .
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Posted: 8/21/2022 1:18:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The MKE AP5 pistols are definitely the best deal on a roller lock pistol we have have seen in the last 15 plus years. The rebate offered by the importer ends in a few weeks and would anticipate prices starting to go up as we get into the fall. If you want one now is probably the best time . https://atlanticfirearms.com/media/cache/sylius_shop_product_original/product/century-ap5-core-hg6034a-n-1.jpg MKE Firearms Just ordered this exact one! LOS made me do it, lol! Seriously, I’m glad I did for that price. I’ll get a SB or Safety Harbor collapsing brace and a wide hand guard for it in a few days. I was gifted three HK 30rnd mags a while ago so it was meant to be. I’m glad I kept them. I still want to buy some more MKE mags though. As to mounts and optics I will wait on those. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 1:37:40 PM EDT
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@LOS
What brace is that on the shorty? Is that the B&T? |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 2:20:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/21/2022 2:23:45 PM EDT
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