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Posted: 11/16/2019 2:49:51 AM EDT
Does anyone have any info to substantiate this rumor?
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 2:57:40 AM EDT
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Saw it on reddit yesterday, I'm interested
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 3:29:43 AM EDT
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Same here!!!
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 5:46:04 AM EDT
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There's been stuff with WAY more solid rumors, or even actual announcements, from YEARS ago that still haven't actually happened.
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 10:20:23 AM EDT
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Bunch of BS
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 10:39:13 AM EDT
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Is HK subcontracting to a guy named Todd?
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 11:24:13 AM EDT
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I'm calling BS. There is a list as long as my third leg of stuff HK would bring into the US before importing non-neutered full-size MP5s out of the blue.

Edit: ...and I was wrong.
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 1:46:31 PM EDT
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The German Federal Police approval is public, you can easily find it if you know how to search their website.  The link redirects to the homepage so I can't post it.

That being said it took several years from this point for the SP5K to arrive.  So a Christmas turnaround is hard for me to believe.
Link Posted: 11/16/2019 6:34:34 PM EDT
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I would be in for two immediately if true!
Link Posted: 11/18/2019 8:12:01 PM EDT
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It appears that this is a real thing according to some people in the know over at HKPRO.com. Apparently there has been a Christmas email sent to HK dealers stating an SP5 is indeed coming. Allegedly this has been confirmed and it wasn’t a typo. Holy Crap I hope this is legit!
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 8:19:50 AM EDT
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Man, and I already spent $2k on a Z5RS. Time to drop another $2k for a legit HK.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 9:09:18 AM EDT
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Reading the thread on HKPRO, there was speculation the German .gov approved the sale of these (when they previously had not) because the platform is getting old and falling out of favor with government purchasers/users.  Kind of a Curio and Relic situation.  

Which is totally fine with me.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 9:20:29 AM EDT
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I'm thinking it's going to be more like $4k IF they actually come to market.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 9:44:42 AM EDT
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Man, and I already spent $2k on a Z5RS. Time to drop another $2k for a legit HK.
I'm thinking it's going to be more like $4k IF they actually come to market.
I would assume they will be priced in line with the SP5K and come in around $2.5K.  That is reasonable in my book.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 9:48:29 AM EDT
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I suspect there will be way more demand than supply at first as people using sears in clones snap these up.  $4k street price seems like reality.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:45:06 AM EDT
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I'm thinking it's going to be more like $4k IF they actually come to market.
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I suspect there will be way more demand than supply at first as people using sears in clones snap these up.  $4k street price seems like reality.
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SP5K had a street price of low $2ks. I personally don't think it would be as high as $4k.

Here is Polish release for the SP5. Looks like this might be a real thing.

https://m.facebook.com/175236472976335/posts/674257843074193?d=n&sfns=mo
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:51:07 AM EDT
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Paddle mag releases, but no 3-lug.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:53:31 AM EDT
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The real question is should I FO and get the POF 5K/PTR 9KT or wait for for a real HK MP5? I’m going to spend roughly $2500-3000 anyway form 1’ing it and a good optic.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:06:59 PM EDT
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I’d be very interested in one of each
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:15:18 PM EDT
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Looks like 3 lug to me.

Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:33:17 PM EDT
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I've now read $2200ish for these, which blew me away.

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It's the Navy barrel, which is 3-lug.  For both/all models.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:39:40 PM EDT
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It's happening. SP5 and re-released SP5K with threaded barrels and paddle mag release in pistol format for each model. No word on pricing or timing, but word is slowly making its way out.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 12:50:03 PM EDT
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An actual HK SP5K with a tri-lug?

Wow.  This is what HK fans have been wanting for years.  Amazing if they actually show up.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 2:19:08 PM EDT
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This makes me smile. I already have a ptr K model. I'd love a real deal hk full size.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:12:03 PM EDT
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Well crap.. there goes the value of my Z5RS. If I knew 100% this would really happen I'd sell my RS as a pistol and just eat the cost of my stamp.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:16:46 PM EDT
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Stop that, its not April 1st yet!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:20:40 PM EDT
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Well crap.. there goes the value of my Z5RS. If I knew 100% this would really happen I'd sell my RS as a pistol and just eat the cost of my stamp.
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Just keep the Z5RS. Add the SP5 in addition.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:29:14 PM EDT
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Reading the thread on HKPRO, there was speculation the German .gov approved the sale of these (when they previously had not) because the platform is getting old and falling out of favor with government purchasers/users.  Kind of a Curio and Relic situation.  

Which is totally fine with me.
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BS, since the German Gov't has "approved" the civilian sale of MP5 clones in Europe for over 15 years. HK never wanted to play; So instead, various Turkish and domestically made clones were made.

I would liken it to HK being bankrupt while sitting on piles of parts.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 3:46:25 PM EDT
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BS, since the German Gov't has "approved" the civilian sale of MP5 clones in Europe for over 15 years. HK never wanted to play; So instead, various Turkish and domestically made clones were made.

I would liken it to HK being bankrupt while sitting on piles of parts.
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Germany's Euro trade zone rules are different than those for the US.  The German police approved this 2-3 years ago, not 15.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:30:42 PM EDT
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Well ain't that a crock of s**t, since I just SBR'd a Zenith 5RS, and I don't want two.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 5:48:14 PM EDT
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Well ain't that a crock of s**t, since I just SBR'd a Zenith 5RS, and I don't want two.
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One is none and two is one.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 7:17:56 PM EDT
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A full size HK would be very tempting, depending on price. But only if it doesn't have a bunch of stupid features needing to be converted, like the current SP5K.

It would be a tough call for me, hard to say if it would be worth the extra $1k it would probably be compared to a PTR or Zenith.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 7:51:55 PM EDT
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Anyone have a contact with a stocking dealer that has these allocated to them yet?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 7:56:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/19/2019 8:26:05 PM EDT
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And you will be stocking them?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 8:29:09 PM EDT
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A full size HK would be very tempting, depending on price. But only if it doesn't have a bunch of stupid features needing to be converted, like the current SP5K.

It would be a tough call for me, hard to say if it would be worth the extra $1k it would probably be compared to a PTR or Zenith.
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It will have threaded tri-lug barrel + paddle mag release. Anything else you want?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 8:45:22 PM EDT
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I need to pay my credit card off real quick so I can buy one of each!
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 8:53:07 PM EDT
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It will have threaded tri-lug barrel + paddle mag release. Anything else you want?
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A functional front trigger housing push pin. That appears to be the one functional item that will remain superior on the Zenith/MKE, at least to those who are purists to the MP5 design, and don’t own a $30,000 conversion sear.

So the purchase decision will come down to the better quality of the German vs. the additional feature of the Turkey (ha ha). If the German SP5 had a functional front trigger housing push pin, I’d be “in” for anything less than $5,000.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 9:03:39 PM EDT
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I am glad HK is finally getting its shit together.  I already have a MKE RZS-5 that I have SBR'ed.  That being said I will definitely pick up the SP5.  These new HK are the updated F model so I can basically show in my collection the evolution of the platform like I have with the M16a1 and A2 variants.  I am most pleased that the newer SP5K will come in the PDW configuration, that will save alot of money and hassle.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 9:55:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/19/2019 10:15:06 PM EDT
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yes but we may only see one every couple months
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And you will be stocking them?
yes but we may only see one every couple months
dibs on the second one after you grab yours
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 10:30:58 PM EDT
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yes but we may only see one every couple months
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yes but we may only see one every couple months
Will you be accepting pre orders once more info comes down the line?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 10:48:29 PM EDT
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Tag
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:05:06 PM EDT
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In for more.
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:17:25 PM EDT
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Hmmmm. I need one in the A2 varietal. When do you want to be prepaid for it
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:25:32 PM EDT
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A functional front trigger housing push pin. That appears to be the one functional item that will remain superior on the Zenith/MKE, at least to those who are purists to the MP5 design, and don’t own a $30,000 conversion sear.

So the purchase decision will come down to the better quality of the German vs. the additional feature of the Turkey (ha ha). If the German SP5 had a functional front trigger housing push pin, I’d be “in” for anything less than $5,000.
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It will have threaded tri-lug barrel + paddle mag release. Anything else you want?
A functional front trigger housing push pin. That appears to be the one functional item that will remain superior on the Zenith/MKE, at least to those who are purists to the MP5 design, and don’t own a $30,000 conversion sear.

So the purchase decision will come down to the better quality of the German vs. the additional feature of the Turkey (ha ha). If the German SP5 had a functional front trigger housing push pin, I’d be “in” for anything less than $5,000.
How do you know it will only be a single (rear) pin lower?
Link Posted: 11/19/2019 11:56:29 PM EDT
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All of the pictures I see appear to be clipped and pinned.   A two pin lower would be ideal but it's not a deal breaker for me.
Link Posted: 11/20/2019 12:20:17 AM EDT
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So it is true? Well there goes the value of my HK conversions. I’ll line up though with cash in hand for a new production HK unneutered MP5.
Link Posted: 11/20/2019 12:40:14 AM EDT
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All of the pictures I see appear to be clipped and pinned.   A two pin lower would be ideal but it's not a deal breaker for me.
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How do you know it will only be a single (rear) pin lower?
All of the pictures I see appear to be clipped and pinned.   A two pin lower would be ideal but it's not a deal breaker for me.
Speculation on the reason why HK would not just do a two pin lower in spirit of the original?
Link Posted: 11/20/2019 1:03:50 AM EDT
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Tag
Link Posted: 11/20/2019 1:30:58 AM EDT
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Speculation on the reason why HK would not just do a two pin lower in spirit of the original?
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My guess is it's either some type of law so they can have a full auto carrier, think ptr or the pics I've seen are just mock up versions that are like prototypes.
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