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Posted: 2/13/2020 11:03:56 PM EDT
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As I recall Special Interest arms has closed up shop.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 11:14:37 PM EDT
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Last I talked to him he was done with the business side of guns. He closed his old location and moved.
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Posted: 2/13/2020 11:41:37 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies
Pity, some of his kits looked very interesting Will have to see who takes up the slack to fill the need for such things |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 1:52:36 AM EDT
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He made some cool stuff. I wish I would have grabbed a Novem or had one built. Don’t really need it but thought they were cool
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Posted: 2/14/2020 7:46:43 AM EDT
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Crap, i had meant to buy a used .22 TCM barrel from him a few years ago and have it turned down to fit an UZI.
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Posted: 2/14/2020 9:24:55 PM EDT
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Crap, i had meant to buy a used .22 TCM barrel from him a few years ago and have it turned down to fit an UZI. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 10:50:48 PM EDT
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Consider yourself lucky. I had a deal with him, and it only took me over three years to finally get my gun. There was every reason given, except the dog ate it. My understanding is, the BATFE read him the riot act, because of the number of complaints about people not receiving their Title-II guns. He had transferred on paper, my gun to my dealer over nine months before the gun was finished. Hell, Richard took so long to finish the gun, my dealer got out of the business, before my gun was completed. Special Interest Arms, turned in his FFL, and got out of business, before the Feds pulled his license.
It truly is a shame, because the DeLisle I received is truly a nice gun. Knowing what I know now, no way would I have got involved. Mobjack Below is a picture of my gun.  " />
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Posted: 2/14/2020 11:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Consider yourself lucky. I had a deal with him, and it only took me over three years to finally get my gun. There was every reason given, except the dog ate it. My understanding is, the BATFE read him the riot act, because of the number of complaints about people not receiving their Title-II guns. He had transferred on paper, my gun to my dealer over nine months before the gun was finished. Hell, Richard took so long to finish the gun, my dealer got out of the business, before my gun was completed. Special Interest Arms, turned in his FFL, and got out of business, before the Feds pulled his license. It truly is a shame, because the DeLisle I received is truly a nice gun. Knowing what I know now, no way would I have got involved. Mobjack Below is a picture of my gun. (or not) http://i.imgur.com/VwJCQ7ol.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/VwJCQ7ol.jpg IF at some stage I go down the DeLisle route, it will HAVE to be a modernised version First shot a DeLisle about 30 years ago - a UK repro from the Walter Gun Co At 25-yards it grouped about 3 feet or so for 5 shots; my thoughts to this, from looking into the design features, are that having the bullets pass through a rubber wipe/baffle tends to veer them off the straight and narrow. Making one that has the aesthetics but with a more modern design of integral sound mod. would be a much better plan, plus I'd maybe use a longer barrel than the WW2 originals. Always fancied doing a replica of the initial design (based on the .22lr Browning take-down semi-auto) I later had a WelRod from the same firm, in .32ACP An utter pain in the arse to use, and similarly piss poor accuracy. As for SIA - just wanted some parts to let me eventually convert a No.4 shotgun into a .45ACP bolt action for indoor/gallery range use |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 11:26:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: He made some cool stuff. I wish I would have grabbed a Novem or had one built. Don’t really need it but thought they were cool Sorry for the late reply to this. If you are interested in a Novem type rifle without all of the hassles, American Manufacturing can build one. You would just need to supple the rifle. According to his website, they run $395 plus return shipping. I have had dealings with Mike in the past, and he is as fast as Special Interest Arms was slow. You can call him to get the latest update (636) 439-3824. Quote from website: 9mm Bolt action Rifle We offer a custom built 9mm bolt action rifle, these make one of the best suppressor platforms I've ever used in 9mm, especially with subsonic ammunition like Hush. With one of our suppressors they are amazingly quiet and test at 118dB with subsonic ammo. They come standard with a 16" barrel threaded 1/2x28 with a fitted thread cap and barrel lengths are available up to 20" but will add to the cost so ask about that if it's something you want. The host rifles have been difficult to come by these days but we can do the conversion on your rifle if you have one. The complete conversion service runs 395.00 plus return shipping on your rifle. This service includes a new barrel that's fitted, chambered, headspaced and threaded 1/2x28 with a thread cap, all necessary conversion work done to the action and finished in the KG Gunkote color of your choice. Drop us a line with any questions. We also offer an integrated suppressed version of this rifle, this means that the suppressor is a permanent part of the rifle and integrated into the barrel. This conversion runs 575.00. American Manufacturing Co. Shop Services page. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 11:40:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks nice - have you used it much? snip- As for SIA - just wanted some parts to let me eventually convert a No.4 shotgun into a .45ACP bolt action for indoor/gallery range use I haven't used it too much, but every time I pick it up, it puts a smile on my face. My accuracy is better than the one you shot. The SIA DeLisles have a different baffle setup than the originals. It is REALLY quiet, there is a lot of volume to absorb the gas. Like I mentioned earlier, SIA did incredible work, "but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze". It was not cheap, and the wait was tooooooo looong. Though I don't think I would ever sell it. |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 11:48:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consider yourself lucky. I had a deal with him, and it only took me over three years to finally get my gun. There was every reason given, except the dog ate it. My understanding is, the BATFE read him the riot act, because of the number of complaints about people not receiving their Title-II guns. He had transferred on paper, my gun to my dealer over nine months before the gun was finished. Hell, Richard took so long to finish the gun, my dealer got out of the business, before my gun was completed. Special Interest Arms, turned in his FFL, and got out of business, before the Feds pulled his license. It truly is a shame, because the DeLisle I received is truly a nice gun. Knowing what I know now, no way would I have got involved. Mobjack Below is a picture of my gun. (or not) http://i.imgur.com/VwJCQ7ol.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/VwJCQ7ol.jpg @Mobjack I had a very similar experience with him shortly before he closed shop. I had sent him parts and payment for a No.4 to be turned into a suppressed “Tanker Carbine” as he put it, and he did the same thing to me. Gave tons of excuses about being sick, being backlogged, machines breaking, forclosures, just about any BS excuse you could think of. In the meantime when all of these “issues” were going on, he sold several of the kits i was having made on Gunbroker. He refused to give me a refund or return my parts. I finally got my a refund for the work and parts, but only after consulting litigation towards him. I was pretty bummed i was never gonna have my little .45 Enfield, but thankfully Rhineland Arms started doing their conversions again, and at almost half what Richard was asking. That, and they’re also a legitimate company with more than a single person running the show. Im now in the market for an De Lisle, any chance you happen to know who else may have the competence to build one? |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 10:58:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Mobjack I had a very similar experience with him shortly before he closed shop. I had sent him parts and payment for a No.4 to be turned into a suppressed “Tanker Carbine” as he put it, and he did the same thing to me. Gave tons of excuses about being sick, being backlogged, machines breaking, forclosures, just about any BS excuse you could think of. In the meantime when all of these “issues” were going on, he sold several of the kits i was having made on Gunbroker. He refused to give me a refund or return my parts. I finally got my a refund for the work and parts, but only after consulting litigation towards him. I was pretty bummed i was never gonna have my little .45 Enfield, but thankfully Rhineland Arms started doing their conversions again, and at almost half what Richard was asking. That, and they’re also a legitimate company with more than a single person running the show. Im now in the market for an De Lisle, any chance you happen to know who else may have the competence to build one? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Consider yourself lucky. I had a deal with him, and it only took me over three years to finally get my gun. There was every reason given, except the dog ate it. My understanding is, the BATFE read him the riot act, because of the number of complaints about people not receiving their Title-II guns. He had transferred on paper, my gun to my dealer over nine months before the gun was finished. Hell, Richard took so long to finish the gun, my dealer got out of the business, before my gun was completed. Special Interest Arms, turned in his FFL, and got out of business, before the Feds pulled his license. It truly is a shame, because the DeLisle I received is truly a nice gun. Knowing what I know now, no way would I have got involved. Mobjack Below is a picture of my gun. (or not) http://i.imgur.com/VwJCQ7ol.jpg" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/VwJCQ7ol.jpg @Mobjack I had a very similar experience with him shortly before he closed shop. I had sent him parts and payment for a No.4 to be turned into a suppressed “Tanker Carbine” as he put it, and he did the same thing to me. Gave tons of excuses about being sick, being backlogged, machines breaking, forclosures, just about any BS excuse you could think of. In the meantime when all of these “issues” were going on, he sold several of the kits i was having made on Gunbroker. He refused to give me a refund or return my parts. I finally got my a refund for the work and parts, but only after consulting litigation towards him. I was pretty bummed i was never gonna have my little .45 Enfield, but thankfully Rhineland Arms started doing their conversions again, and at almost half what Richard was asking. That, and they’re also a legitimate company with more than a single person running the show. Im now in the market for an De Lisle, any chance you happen to know who else may have the competence to build one? He took the kit you sent him to build into a gun, took your money, and then listed the kit on Gunbroker??? Holy crap.... Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 6:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He took the kit you sent him to build into a gun, took your money, and then listed the kit on Gunbroker??? Holy crap.... Sven Manticore Arms Basically. I sent him various surplus parts needed for the .45 conversion (sans receiver) like the bolt head, extractor, barrel bands, front sight bases, etc. He never delivered the kit i ordered, never returned the parts, and in the mean time, sold several .45 conversions on GB, while saying that he had none and it would take much longer to complete mine. I dont believe he used any parts i sent for any of those conversions, as the parts i sent were to be used for the upgraded extractor kit and Tanker front sight relocation. He had nothing to say on the subject when i showed him the screenshots of the auctions with his name on it If i had sent a receiver, i dont think i’d have ever seen it again, and i’d have been livid. Im glad i didnt |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 8:35:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IF at some stage I go down the DeLisle route, it will HAVE to be a modernised version First shot a DeLisle about 30 years ago - a UK repro from the Walter Gun Co At 25-yards it grouped about 3 feet or so for 5 shots; my thoughts to this, from looking into the design features, are that having the bullets pass through a rubber wipe/baffle tends to veer them off the straight and narrow. I know this is an older topic, but I noticed this and wanted to reply. If you have bullet deflection that serious, you are getting baffle or endcap strikes. And not due to wipes because there should be none in there. The Delisle never used wipes. Or, whoever owned the gun tried to put some wipes in it and thus, as you noticed, was a serious mistake to have done so. I have shot my 9x39 integral at 75 yards off hand with a wipe and can ring a gong without the wipe affecting accuracy enough at that distance to cause a miss. |
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Posted: 7/1/2020 11:00:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know this is an older topic, but I noticed this and wanted to reply. If you have bullet deflection that serious, you are getting baffle or endcap strikes. And not due to wipes because there should be none in there. The Delisle never used wipes. Or, whoever owned the gun tried to put some wipes in it and thus, as you noticed, was a serious mistake to have done so. I have shot my 9x39 integral at 75 yards off hand with a wipe and can ring a gong without the wipe affecting accuracy enough at that distance to cause a miss. I'd need to check the reference books I have here, as I'm 100% sure that the original design did have a rubber wipe just inside the muzzle. May be wrong though - but I tend to remember small details like that I also used to shoot with a relative of the designer, but that was a few decades ago now |
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Posted: 7/2/2020 7:44:48 AM EDT
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I have never found a single (verifiable) source that references a wipe for that gun. Whether in the patent information, or with any of the museums that house the last majority of the remaining surviving examples.
Whether someone made a repro and incorporated them or not, I don't know, because anything is possible there, but the originals didn't. The most prolific gun that used wipes during that time period was the welrod. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:06:52 PM EDT
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There is a company in the I’m doing beautiful DeLisle carbines , I think it is Shandwick Manufacturing.
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Posted: 7/4/2020 10:53:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a company in the I’m doing beautiful DeLisle carbines , I think it is Shandwick Manufacturing. I am confused by the "I’m doing beautiful DeLisle carbines" statement, can you elaborate on it? Is Shandwick Manufacturing an American company? I have been following the DeLisle carbines for quite a while, I have never heard of them. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 11:57:28 AM EDT
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I don't believe so. There are more people making them in UK than in the US.
I'm making my own. Having to build much of it forward of the trigger by hand. I am cheating a little and using a Rhineland 45acp and mag adapter though. Still waiting on Uncle Sugars signature to finish it, but I have a very good start on the project. Or, at least what I'm legally allowed to do (modify wood forestock, make the front handguard, fabricate front sights, modify rear sight assembly, shorten and thread and port the new barrel, remove the old 303 barrel, etc.) There is a surprising amount of work that has been going into making it. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 3:29:10 PM EDT
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A gunshop near me made a few
I think he was selling them for around £5K a time (GBP currency) |
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Posted: 7/6/2020 10:43:11 PM EDT
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Holy excuses Batman!
I bought a novem 9 off him - one with the short barrel and cup for suppressor keeping it a non NFA gun. Took seven months to get it. If Richard worked half as hard building guns as making up excuses he'd be one hell of a smith. He got the flu twice during my build. Its a great little suppressor host and he does good work but it is unfortunate the amount of BS it takes to get a gun from him |
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Posted: 7/7/2020 10:35:38 PM EDT
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Here is a picture of my 9mm "Novem" type rifle. !6" barrel, with a Bowers Vers 9S suppressor. It was done quickly by American Man., as I posted earlier.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 7:35:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am confused by the "I’m doing beautiful DeLisle carbines" statement, can you elaborate on it? Is Shandwick Manufacturing an American company? I have been following the DeLisle carbines for quite a while, I have never heard of them. Sorry the I’m was supposed to me as is , |
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