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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:21:40 AM EDT
Can we have a lever action ammo availability thread? While there is an ammo shortage (or panic, buyout, whatever) in general, it seems lever action specific ammo has vanished.

This is a thread for .30-30, .45-70, .357 and .44. You can also throw in .444, .35, .454 and any other less common calibers.

Mods, if this isn’t appropriate for a tech forum, please nuke this.

Today I found .30-30 for $3 per round.

3 dpr
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 9:47:44 AM EDT
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Good thread idea. This sub forum definitely seems pretty well organized and respectful. I dont think it would be an issue. But I'm not a moderator.

I was searching for subsonic 30-30 the other day out of curiosity and I came across this
https://dallasreloads.com/product/150-grain-rn-subsonic/
I'm not in the market for it but someone here may be. It would have been expensive last year but by today's prices it's pretty good.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:59:54 AM EDT
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I just haunt ammoseek every few weeks.  .357 and .38 are both expensive, but for several months there was only one caliber or the other in terms of availability; makes me glad I only have one thing limited to .38 only that can't take the longer cartridge also.

For the price of current .357 (sometimes $3/rnd), it would make more sense to buy a .327 and shoot .32 ACP out of it; after a few boxes of ammo, your gun would pay for itself
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:12:28 AM EDT
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In these threads, I would normally post a photo of a reloading press.

Even that can't help you now.  
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:27:58 AM EDT
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Bullet molds.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:06:41 PM EDT
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Where do you get primer molds?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 8:23:29 PM EDT
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By the time somebody posted a link the ammo would already be gone.

The worst is yet to come. I don't see things getting better for a few years.

Save your ammo for when its REALLY NEEDED..

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 10:19:51 PM EDT
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About a week and a half ago Federal had Hammer Down 45-70 in stock on their site, I had wanted to try it and have not seen any in stores since it was announced around a year ago. I have not seen any 45-70 in stock anywhere else since November, when I snagged both boxes that a Sportsman's Warehouse had 1300+ miles from home while I was traveling, so I thought I missed the boat on the HD. It was $55.99 a box, which is $2.75/round before shipping/tax-not much more than the Underwood I usually buy. I bought 3 boxes to get free shipping which ended up at $2.98/round after tax. For anyone wondering, it's just their Fusion ammo with a nickel plated case with a re-profiled rim that supposedly somehow makes it feed better. Bullet is the same, powder charge seems to be too.

Went back Saturday and it was OOS (so I bought a half case of 168gr .308 GMM). I agree with OP that lever gun ammo is particularly hard to find, probably because it is produced in smaller quantities than ammo commonly used in semiautos and bolt guns. 5.56 and 9mm are both far easier to find and the prices are less inflated.

I can find .38spl LRN at one of the LGS's nearby for 72cpr. I have not seen .357 Mag in person or online in about 6 months or so.


On the bright side, 45-70 is cheaper than 30-30 right now, which costs about the same as .50 BMG-only I can find .50 BMG locally.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:12:45 AM EDT
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I’m fairly new to the lever action game and started buying up ammo before things got crazy.  I have a good amount but not enough to feel comfortable.  It still blows my mind that lever action cartridges are gone everywhere.  I’ve never see a panic buy like this ever.  I’ve got components (minus primers) and now I’m regretting building so many 38spl instead of .357.  I just hope we will see something change (not for the worse) over the next few months... doubtful but I hope we see some of these calibers come back.  

Anyway, I did find some 44spl locally for like $32/box of 50.  I didn’t love the price but I bought all they had (2).  Blazer garbage too.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:58:57 AM EDT
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If it's ammo thats had any kind of popularity in the 20th century or beyond its sold out everywhere.  Took me forever just to find a box of.22WMR shotshells and even then it took someone finding local in a pawnshop.  My .45 Colt and .44 mag lever guns and revolvers haven't seen range time in quite awhile.  I have a few boxes of defensive or hunting ammo for each but I don't care shoot it frivolously because it's impossible to replace.  At least I'm set up to reload a few hundred rounds before the primers run out but honestly, I'm hesitant to even shoot my reloads.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 1:39:20 AM EDT
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I'm in. Will be sure to post links if I come across anything in stock.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 11:21:25 PM EDT
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This 100 rounds of .38 Special ammunition cost about $5 to load, yes 5¢ per round, and my Rossi loves them.

 
 
4¢ for a primer (Learned my lesson post-2012, stocked up pre-2016)
Free brass
1¢ worth of powder
Free bullets from scrounged wheelweights and cast at home. OK....I did pay $20 for 100+/- lbs., but the other 300-400 lbs. were free.

I can't for the life of me figure why more people don't reload, unless they have plenty of money or just don't shoot all that much.

Seriously guys, either plan ahead and buy ammo before the excrement contacts the ventilation system, or start slowly gathering equipment and components for reloading.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 11:45:53 PM EDT
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This 100 rounds of .38 Special ammunition cost about $5 to load, yes 5¢ per round, and my Rossi loves them.

  https://i.imgur.com/qi7zDMfl.jpg
 
4¢ for a primer (Learned my lesson post-2012, stocked up post-2016)
Free brass
1¢ worth of powder
Free bullets from scrounged wheelweights and cast at home. OK....I did pay $20 for 100+/- lbs., but the other 300-400 lbs. were free.

I can't for the life of me figure why more people don't reload, unless they have plenty of money or just don't shoot all that much.

Seriously guys, either plan ahead and buy ammo before the excrement contacts the ventilation system, or start slowly gathering equipment and components for reloading.
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I think my biggest regret was not buying primers.  I have plenty of everything else, but in all my years I’ve never seen a primer shortage.  I’ll learn from this one for sure.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 11:47:57 PM EDT
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I think my biggest regret was not buying primers.  I have plenty of everything else, but in all my years I’ve never seen a primer shortage.  I’ll learn from this one for sure.
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 They'll be back in stock. Meanwhile, hit the estate sales, garage sales, FB Marketplace, Craigslist and most of all tell all your friends. It's amazing what people stumble across and remember you.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 8:34:03 PM EDT
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Anyone find any 45 long colt?
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 8:49:24 PM EDT
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 They'll be back in stock. Meanwhile, hit the estate sales, garage sales, FB Marketplace, Craigslist and most of all tell all your friends. It's amazing what people stumble across and remember you.
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It'll be atleast 2 years, if ever.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 8:59:01 PM EDT
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 We'll see. Eventually the morons who are maxing out credit cards so they can sit on tens of thousands of primers will stop buying them.
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 9:16:20 PM EDT
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$2 per round

@57plymouth
Link Posted: 1/29/2021 9:25:22 PM EDT
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If you have 30 cal FMJ's lying around, they work great in lever guns if you load the bullet backwards.

Yes.

I said:

BACKWARDS.

https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-50-shooting-bullets-backwards/

https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-50-shooting-bullets-backwards/
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 9:07:19 AM EDT
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45 LC 1.25 per round

No idea about the website or company.

@plymouth57
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 2:30:50 PM EDT
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Buffalo bore has some .45/70, .30-30, .44 and .38/.357 in stock if you want to pay $30+/box for the pistol stuff and $70+/box for the rifle stuff. Free shipping on 12 boxes or more if you have deep pockets.
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 4:09:12 PM EDT
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Buffalo bore has some .45/70, .30-30, .44 and .38/.357 in stock if you want to pay $30+/box for the pistol stuff and $70+/box for the rifle stuff. Free shipping on 12 boxes or more if you have deep pockets.
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Appreciate the heads up, I've been looking for the .357 180gr hard cast for a while
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 10:07:45 PM EDT
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Today I picked up 3 boxes of Hornady Leverevolution .44 mag FTX for $35/box ($1.75/rd) at a LGS.
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 10:31:32 PM EDT
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I want a BHA Model 89 in a bad way.  I can still find ammo in just about any sporting goods store in 500 S&W or 460 S&W
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 12:48:08 AM EDT
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If you can find primers, xtreme has some 158gn projectiles for not too bad.  They shoot great for me in both 38spl and 357.  $68/500.
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 11:26:43 AM EDT
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Not bad!

I’m doing some traveling soon and plan to hit every LGS I find.
Link Posted: 1/31/2021 11:56:58 AM EDT
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That is one of the three guns that is on my short list.
Link Posted: 2/1/2021 6:01:05 PM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up on the 45LC.  I found some, but I'm always watching for more.
Link Posted: 2/1/2021 8:31:33 PM EDT
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I think my biggest regret was not buying primers.  I have plenty of everything else, but in all my years I’ve never seen a primer shortage.  I’ll learn from this one for sure.
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This 100 rounds of .38 Special ammunition cost about $5 to load, yes 5¢ per round, and my Rossi loves them.

  https://i.imgur.com/qi7zDMfl.jpg
 
4¢ for a primer (Learned my lesson post-2012, stocked up post-2016)
Free brass
1¢ worth of powder
Free bullets from scrounged wheelweights and cast at home. OK....I did pay $20 for 100+/- lbs., but the other 300-400 lbs. were free.

I can't for the life of me figure why more people don't reload, unless they have plenty of money or just don't shoot all that much.

Seriously guys, either plan ahead and buy ammo before the excrement contacts the ventilation system, or start slowly gathering equipment and components for reloading.


I think my biggest regret was not buying primers.  I have plenty of everything else, but in all my years I’ve never seen a primer shortage.  I’ll learn from this one for sure.



Same, although the only one I ran out of is small pistol.  I still have half a case of .45 colt (black hills cowboy ammo) that I'm saving for this years shoots, but can't find lead bullets to reload unless I want to start casting.  Planning on a lot of snap cap practice this year instead of shooting.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 1:43:13 AM EDT
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If you can find primers, xtreme has some 158gn projectiles for not too bad.  They shoot great for me in both 38spl and 357.  $68/500.
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Eeeey just took delivery of 1000 of those this evening.
They're kinda stumpy for 158 grains compared to Berry's or Armscor.  Must have a REALLY thin jacket.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 2:17:15 AM EDT
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Wal mart this weekend past.
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Wow. I hope you bought all of it.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 7:27:50 PM EDT
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If it's ammo thats had any kind of popularity in the 20th century or beyond its sold out everywhere.  Took me forever just to find a box of.22WMR shotshells and even then it took someone finding local in a pawnshop.  My .45 Colt and .44 mag lever guns and revolvers haven't seen range time in quite awhile.  I have a few boxes of defensive or hunting ammo for each but I don't care shoot it frivolously because it's impossible to replace.  At least I'm set up to reload a few hundred rounds before the primers run out but honestly, I'm hesitant to even shoot my reloads.
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@Brandi

I think my LGS is awash in those.....like 2-3 cases of them.  I can check tomorrow if you are still looking.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 8:10:24 PM EDT
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Same, although the only one I ran out of is small pistol.  I still have half a case of .45 colt (black hills cowboy ammo) that I'm saving for this years shoots, but can't find lead bullets to reload unless I want to start casting.  Planning on a lot of snap cap practice this year instead of shooting.
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IM sent regarding lead bullets.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 9:59:30 PM EDT
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I think my LGS is awash in those.....like 2-3 cases of them.  I can check tomorrow if you are still looking.
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I assume you mean the .22wmr shotshells.  Thanks but I found some locally.  I really just needed one box.  I appreciate the offer though!

Link Posted: 2/3/2021 10:38:33 PM EDT
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I assume you mean the .22wmr shotshells.  Thanks but I found some locally.  I really just needed one box.  I appreciate the offer though!

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@Brandi

I think my LGS is awash in those.....like 2-3 cases of them.  I can check tomorrow if you are still looking.


I assume you mean the .22wmr shotshells.  Thanks but I found some locally.  I really just needed one box.  I appreciate the offer though!

Yeah,  shot shells.  They have a ton.

No problem.
Link Posted: 2/5/2021 7:47:46 AM EDT
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Got a notification from Midway last night for some Hornady American Whitetail Ammunition 30-30 Winchester 150 Grain at 30.99/ box. Of course, it was after I put my phone away for the night. By 0600 this morning it was OOS.

The good news is that there is hope.
Link Posted: 2/5/2021 11:39:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/5/2021 11:48:54 AM EDT
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They've got Hornady Leverevolution 307 Winchester now...

307 Win
Link Posted: 2/5/2021 12:07:02 PM EDT
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I tried to buy the max of three boxes, but must have just missed it. Had the add to cart button, but then an error that it was no longer available.
Link Posted: 2/5/2021 12:14:36 PM EDT
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Looks like the notification went out around 830; I saw it and ordered immediately before I posted.

But that’s two notifications from Midway in less than 24 hours. Maybe they found some in a back office.

I’ve been signed up for a notification from them for every .30-30, .357, and .38 round they have listed.
Link Posted: 2/6/2021 2:16:48 PM EDT
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OOS already
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Already? Seven hours is an eternity these days.
Link Posted: 2/7/2021 2:26:23 PM EDT
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I know, I was just joking.
Link Posted: 2/8/2021 10:53:00 AM EDT
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Rolled 100 44 Magnum rounds yesterday.

Supers: 50x 240 gr XTP over 24.5 gr of H110
Subs: 50x 240 gr over 6.5gr Titegroup.
Link Posted: 2/13/2021 2:32:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2021 11:42:10 AM EDT
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I'm looking for a true unicorn...

.32-40 Winchester to feed my re-chambered BSA Martini Cadet.
The last box I found, years ago, was the "John Wayne" commemorative Winchester loading.  Snagged it before the collectors got hold of it.

Link Posted: 2/14/2021 12:40:49 PM EDT
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I'm looking for a true unicorn...

.32-40 Winchester to feed my re-chambered BSA Martini Cadet.
The last box I found, years ago, was the "John Wayne" commemorative Winchester loading.  Snagged it before the collectors got hold of it.

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A Cadet in 32-40?  Many were rechambered, or were sloppy enough to accept, 32-20.  I have one.  I've not heard of or seen one in 32-40.  That's a quite long, tapered round over 2.5" long.

The 32-20 is quite close in power and size to the original .31 Cadet round.


Rob
Link Posted: 2/15/2021 5:39:50 PM EDT
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Got a notification for some Hornady.38 XTP, but it was gone when I saw the email 50 minutes after it was sent out.

??
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 11:05:31 AM EDT
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If it helps anybody local to Huntsville, AL I would sell small amounts of 38/357 ammo or 38/357/44/45 lever action suitable reloading supplies.  
Quantity is an open box or two of ammo, couple hundred primers, an open pound of powder, loose plinking bullets, etc.

I'm not looking to profit, prices would be non-panic prices.
Purpose is for you to be able to shoot your lever action, not for hoarding or reselling.
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