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MCDXXV

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Posted: 4/11/2018 4:58:24 PM EDT

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The United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) issued a solicitation for a family of Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifles, the so-called SCAR, designed around two different calibers but featuring high commonality of parts and identical ergonomics.

The SCAR is manufactured in two main versions; the SCAR-L ("Light") and SCAR-H ("Heavy"). The SCAR-L fires 5.56×45mm NATO, fed from STANAG (M16) magazines. The SCAR-H fires the more powerful 7.62×51mm NATO from proprietary 20-round magazines. Different length barrels are available for close quarters battle and for longer-range engagements.

The Mk 16 was intended to replace the M4A1, the Mk 18 CQBR and the Mk 12 SPR, before SOCOM decided to cancel the order for the Mk 16 Mod 0. The Mk 17 will replace the M14 and Mk 11 sniper rifles. However, the weapon will only supplement other weapons while issuing remains at the operator's decision.

The Mk 20 Mod 0 Sniper Support Rifle (SSR) is based on the SCAR-H. It includes a longer receiver, a beefed up barrel extension and barrel profile to reduce whip and improve accuracy, and an enhanced modular trigger that can be configured for single-stage or two-stage operation together with either a folding or a non-folding precision stock.

MK16

MK17

MK20/SSR

Building a clone.

Barrel:
MK16 10" 14”, 18"
MK17 13", 16", 20”

Flash Hider:
MK16 AAC 18T Blackout
MK17 AAC 18T MITER, FN ECP
MK20 FA762SV

Suppressors:
MK16 AAC SCAR-SD
MK17 AAC SCAR-SD, FN Supressor
MK20 Surefire FH762SV-SCAR

Vertical grips
Tango down battle grip in tan
KAC

Rail panels:
Tango Down

Optics:
MK16
Elcan Specter DR SU-230
EOTech SU-231-PEQ (EOTech 553)
EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS03)
EOTech 3x magnifiers

MK17
Elcan Specter DR SU-230A
Nightforce 2.5-10x24
Nightforce 3.5-15x50
EOTech SU-231-PEQ (EOTech 553)
EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS03)
EOTech 3x magnifiers

MK20
Nightforce NXS 3.5-15
Vortex Razor HD 3-18 and 4.5-27
Leupold MK6 3-18 H59
Aimpoint T1/T2 offset and DAGR

IR Lasers:
Insight AN/PEQ-15/LA-5

Flashlight:
Insight M3 (SU-233/PVS)
Insight WMX200

Combat_Diver Never Home Joined Jan 2003 Posts 10303 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 2/13/2020 12:59:20 AM EDT [Last Edit: Combat_Diver] [#1] Quote History Originally Posted By vanquishings: This. Really curious how the SDs are deployed, if at all. View Quote MP5s are really used now days. Few floating around, most teams do not have any. This the most I've seen in a very long time. Bottom right are 3 ea MP5Ks also. CD
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m4hk33 Member Joined Jul 2003 Posts 9338 EE 98% (66) KWT	Posted: 2/13/2020 1:19:50 AM EDT [#2] @Combat_Diver CD, Curious... Are you seeing more Mk17's or Mk20's going down range. Obviously mission dictates but just wonder if one is actually more practical and if the benefits of the 20 seem are enough to chose it over the lighter 17

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Posted: 2/13/2020 8:07:05 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By m4hk33:
@Combat_Diver

CD,

Curious... Are you seeing more Mk17's or Mk20's going down range.

Obviously mission dictates but just wonder if one is actually more practical and if the benefits of the 20 seem are enough to chose it over the lighter 17

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Teams have Mk17 assigned to them. They draw the Mk20s out of SOCOM loan stock.

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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16'
Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19' & 20'

amateurarmorer Joined Sep 2019 Posts 19 EE 100% (6) USA	Posted: 2/14/2020 1:45:36 PM EDT [#4]

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6027 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 2/14/2020 2:11:05 PM EDT [#5] Anyone have a pic of a 17 w/ 16" barrel and the Surefire 762sv mounted? I'm just curious how far back it overlaps the barrel - what it looks like on a 16" barrel. Specifically looking for an example that doesn't have an extended rail.

RailgunDeadeye Joined Mar 2018 Posts 236 EE 100% (81) WY, USA	Posted: 2/19/2020 11:51:00 AM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By amateurarmorer: https://i.imgur.com/upOqy2X.jpg View Quote Looks pretty familiar lol

amateurarmorer Joined Sep 2019 Posts 41 EE 100% (6) USA	Posted: 2/24/2020 3:53:57 PM EDT [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By RailgunDeadeye: Looks pretty familiar lol View Quote

amateurarmorer Joined Sep 2019 Posts 42 EE 100% (6) USA	Posted: 2/24/2020 3:56:29 PM EDT [#8]

brodband8 YCSMF Joined Oct 2011 Posts 6896 EE 100% (690) FL, USA	Posted: 3/6/2020 7:42:17 AM EDT [#9] Chonk Attached File Attached File

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1682 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/6/2020 7:52:47 AM EDT [#10] Quote History Originally Posted By brodband8: Chonk https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/F6D996DB-62D6-4AA2-AB67-CDA346CBBD0D_jpe-1304082.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/C266AFE6-9CF3-49AA-A100-4DD5D8F27788_jpe-1304084.JPG View Quote Attached File

BROK3N-AR

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Posted: 3/6/2020 6:17:56 PM EDT

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A couple weeks ago I finally shot a friends 16 and 17. Spent the next couple days handing down a deal on one. I liked the 16 better but I have plenty of rifles in 556 so I decided to go with the 308. Then spent the last couple weeks hunting down parts to make it the way I want it. Only thing I might change out is the Larue mount. Not sure how I feel about it yet.

Vortex razor on Larue mount
G trigger
Asr break for the can
A few different jets to play around with
Grip, 6.5” rail.

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1685 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/6/2020 6:20:29 PM EDT [#12] Attached File

mban2 Member Joined Jun 2014 Posts 756 EE 100% (20) WI, USA	Posted: 3/8/2020 2:04:34 AM EDT [#13] Attached File Old school picture

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6043 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/10/2020 8:12:21 AM EDT [#14]

delta_romeo_echo Joined Jun 2018 Posts 246 EE 100% (3) USA	Posted: 3/13/2020 3:46:51 PM EDT [#15] Here's mine my currently. Been playing with the sling and mounts. Not sure what I like best up front, the QD swivel or U loop? Loving the BFG padded sling and sleeve. Elcan 1.5x6 is next. Gotta pull the trigger on that soon. Last range trip with the irons at 25m. Aquila 150 gr FMJ BT. Few clicks to get it right. Few flyers at the top.

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1699 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/13/2020 6:57:21 PM EDT [#16] Attached File

brodband8 YCSMF Joined Oct 2011 Posts 6901 EE 100% (690) FL, USA	Posted: 3/13/2020 7:02:42 PM EDT [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/490874/7538F7D8-8F84-42B8-9871-0231396E89E8_jpe-1314344.JPG View Quote I knew I was saving this shit for a good reason. Attached File

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1700 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/13/2020 7:05:41 PM EDT [#18] Quote History Originally Posted By brodband8: I knew I was saving this shit for a good reason. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/89940419_2989677257760721_57459618974762-1314358.JPG View Quote Haha haha love it!

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Posted: 3/13/2020 8:56:54 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo:
Here's mine my currently. Been playing with the sling and mounts. Not sure what I like best up front, the QD swivel or U loop? Loving the BFG padded sling and sleeve. Elcan 1.5x6 is next. Gotta pull the trigger on that soon.

https://i.imgur.com/1rrVriD.jpg

Last range trip with the irons at 25m. Aquila 150 gr FMJ BT. Few clicks to get it right.

https://i.imgur.com/UVtCZ52.jpg

Few flyers at the top.

https://i.imgur.com/WHPV9Pa.jpg

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What sling is on the RIS II rig in the back?

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Posted: 3/14/2020 11:25:36 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Anyone have a pic of a 17 w/ 16" barrel and the Surefire 762sv mounted?

I'm just curious how far back it overlaps the barrel - what it looks like on a 16" barrel.

Specifically looking for an example that doesn't have an extended rail.

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I'll check my computer but I sold mine in 2012, some member here has it.

brodband8 YCSMF Joined Oct 2011 Posts 6902 EE 100% (690) FL, USA	Posted: 3/14/2020 2:39:20 PM EDT [#21] Quote History Originally Posted By FrankW134: I'll check my computer but I sold mine in 2012, some member here has it. View Quote I have an extra 16 inch barrel laying around with mount on it. Will take some Pics later

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Posted: 3/15/2020 9:51:25 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By brodband8:
I have an extra 16 inch barrel laying around with mount on it. Will take some
Pics later

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Originally Posted By brodband8:

Originally Posted By FrankW134:

I'll check my computer but I sold mine in 2012, some member here has it.

I have an extra 16 inch barrel laying around with mount on it. Will take some
Pics later

Sweet - thanks!

brodband8 YCSMF Joined Oct 2011 Posts 6904 EE 100% (690) FL, USA	Posted: 3/16/2020 8:32:29 PM EDT [#23] Quote History Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Sweet - thanks! View Quote sorry this prob doesnt help much. 16 inch barrel lined up with 13. Attached File

delta_romeo_echo Joined Jun 2018 Posts 251 EE 100% (3) USA	Posted: 3/17/2020 7:50:37 PM EDT [#24] Quote History Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: What sling is on the RIS II rig in the back? View Quote Its the VTAC wide padded sling with metal hardware. Great sling for my Block II with all that stuff mounted on it. Magpul QD's.

-KentuckyWindage-

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Posted: 3/17/2020 8:37:18 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By brodband8:

sorry this prob doesnt help much.

16 inch barrel lined up with 13.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/90069842_3342264202490846_40503746165043-1319136.JPG

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Man I love the OG grip stops.

How close does the MAWL come to the front sling loop on the right side? Did you have to trim it to fit?

brodband8 YCSMF Joined Oct 2011 Posts 6908 EE 100% (690) FL, USA	Posted: 3/17/2020 10:47:10 PM EDT [Last Edit: brodband8] [#26] Quote History Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Man I love the OG grip stops. How close does the MAWL come to the front sling loop on the right side? Did you have to trim it to fit? View Quote Yeah I have about 10 of them lol clears fine. Attached File

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1708 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/18/2020 7:14:12 AM EDT [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By brodband8: Yeah I have about 10 of them lol clears fine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/90551952_437611270367891_913488676414029-1320944.JPG View Quote Awesome thank you Sir! 10? Damn man

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6051 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/18/2020 8:47:16 PM EDT [#28] Is the Surefire FA762SV still made? Can't find one anywhere in stock.

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6054 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/23/2020 4:14:35 PM EDT [Last Edit: wayfaerer320] [#29] EDIT: Looks like the offset mount is DD based on a post from CD. What's the correct offset mount for the Aimpoint? And what specific Aimpoint model? Micro T-2? Seen here:

Combat_Diver Never Home Joined Jan 2003 Posts 10434 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 3/24/2020 1:26:10 AM EDT [#30] Off set mount that came with my T1. ARMS #31-OS Attached File CD
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wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6057 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/24/2020 8:26:10 AM EDT [#31] Quote History Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Off set mount that came with my T1. ARMS #31-OS https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0207_jpg-1330676.JPG CD View Quote Thanks, CD!

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1725 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/24/2020 10:56:08 AM EDT [#32] Attached File

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6062 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/28/2020 12:18:37 PM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/490874/7F84E83E-3E05-4CC3-91F9-448C6D539AA7_jpe-1330968.JPG View Quote Sweet pic.

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6063 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/28/2020 12:19:56 PM EDT [#34] Going all in on this bitch - just need to find a deal on a new Aimpoint T-2 Micro.

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1751 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/28/2020 3:32:10 PM EDT [#35] Quote History Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Going all in on this bitch - just need to find a deal on a new Aimpoint T-2 Micro. View Quote PM sent

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6064 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/30/2020 1:36:35 AM EDT [#36] @TinyCrumb Sent you a PM again - your inbox full?

brodband8 YCSMF Joined Oct 2011 Posts 6918 EE 100% (690) FL, USA	Posted: 3/31/2020 7:59:53 AM EDT [#37] Attached File

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1759 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 3/31/2020 9:19:29 AM EDT [#38] Quote History Originally Posted By brodband8: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/90879399_354481765446221_885130695280689-1343197.JPG View Quote Attached File

wayfaerer320 Member Joined Apr 2011 Posts 6069 EE 100% (38) PA, USA	Posted: 3/31/2020 9:44:11 AM EDT [#39] Quote History Originally Posted By brodband8: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/90879399_354481765446221_885130695280689-1343197.JPG View Quote Looks great - have any videos of that rig in action with the suppressor?

SSD13 Joined Feb 2015 Posts 124 EE 100% (20) USA	Posted: 3/31/2020 9:59:20 AM EDT [#40] Quote History Originally Posted By brodband8: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/90879399_354481765446221_885130695280689-1343197.JPG View Quote Meh...the suppressor is scratched.

-KentuckyWindage- Bourbon Snob Joined Dec 2018 Posts 1779 EE 100% (124) KY, USA	Posted: 4/4/2020 1:03:11 PM EDT [#41] Attached File

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alpha0815 InFiDeL Joined Aug 2012 Posts 7219 EE 100% (120) LA, USA	Posted: 4/7/2020 3:50:25 PM EDT [#44] So, if you see a Mk20 with the Leupold Mk6 3-18x, are they still in the ADM mounts? Or does the ECOS-O Leupold / Aimpoint system have it's own mount (brand?)
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Posted: 4/7/2020 9:00:04 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By alpha0815:
So, if you see a Mk20 with the Leupold Mk6 3-18x, are they still in the ADM mounts? Or does the ECOS-O Leupold / Aimpoint system have it's own mount (brand?)

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The ECOS-O optics suite of which the SU-279A belongs includes a 34mm Leupold Mark 6 IMS mount with Right Hand cross bolts. I have never seen the 3-18x in a Delta mount.

Combat_Diver Never Home Joined Jan 2003 Posts 10513 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 4/8/2020 9:32:50 AM EDT [#47] Attached File CD
	De Oppresso Liber Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19' & 20'

ThRob Member Joined Nov 2006 Posts 1138 EE 100% (18) WA, USA	Posted: 4/8/2020 10:55:29 AM EDT [#48] Quote History Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0366_jpg-1356931.JPG CD View Quote Does that have some crazy top rail extension??

Combat_Diver Never Home Joined Jan 2003 Posts 10514 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 4/8/2020 10:58:44 AM EDT [#49] Quote History Originally Posted By ThRob: Does that have some crazy top rail extension?? View Quote Yes, but don't know what. CD
	De Oppresso Liber Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19' & 20'

tanodized IG @tanodized Joined Oct 2008 Posts 2719 EE 100% (255) TX, USA	Posted: 4/8/2020 1:45:01 PM EDT [#50] It's FN's proprietary receiver extension that debuted alongside early SSR prototypes. They were discussed back on page 1 and presumed to be in limited circulation. Those links seem to have died, so have some more: