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Posted: 3/31/2018 6:19:34 PM EDT
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Without gunbroker or similar means, start at one end of the country and visit every gunshow and gunshop there is in person...
And you will still be paying high price. Probably around 20grand or more in airline fares gunshow entranve fees hotel rooms and meals not counting lost work hours |
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Posted: 3/31/2018 6:28:16 PM EDT
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Watch fnforum.net - fn guns for sale section.
One was posted and sold on 3/25 for $2,500.00 EDIT: There are two currently on the Equipment Exchange. |
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Posted: 3/31/2018 6:50:16 PM EDT
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Was hoping to stay around the 2k mark.
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Posted: 3/31/2018 7:51:24 PM EDT
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Was hoping to stay around the 2k mark. I'd post an ad in he EE and wait |
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Posted: 3/31/2018 8:16:36 PM EDT
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Was hoping to stay around the 2k mark. |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 10:04:36 AM EDT
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there is like 3 on the EE at the moment
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Posted: 4/4/2018 8:14:56 PM EDT
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Unless for collector value....stay away!
I'll keep mine due to my complete FN collection....but I'll never shot it. Worst rifle EVER! |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 11:56:51 PM EDT
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I don't think they're bad at all. Kinda bulky, but you get used to the width. Lighter than a Steyr AUG, and the rail options are much better. The front ejection makes it easy to fire ambi, and they're very reliable, like a bullpup SCAR.
What don't you like about them? I found a great deal on a used F2000 Tactical on GunBroker. $1,100 shipped. 
This thread needs pics:  Attached FileNow if I could just find a reasonably priced bayonet for the thing, I'd be all set. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 1:12:58 AM EDT
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I don't think they're bad at all. Kinda bulky, but you get used to the width. Lighter than a Steyr AUG, and the rail options are much better. The front ejection makes it easy to fire ambi, and they're very reliable, like a bullpup SCAR. What don't you like about them? I found a great deal on a used F2000 Tactical on GunBroker. $1,100 shipped.
This thread needs pics: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/13082/CAC27484-FB7C-43DE-A95B-5690A883FF43-505103.JPG Now if I could just find a reasonably priced bayonet for the thing, I'd be all set. When I look on gunbroker for fs2000s they're always outrageously priced with lying descriptions. I rented one, and as a lefty I found them to be basically perfect. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 1:33:35 AM EDT
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2015 and I'm glad I bought it then. I wasn't really looking for one.
Everything goes sky high when new ones cannot be obtained anymore. The AUG is an excellent alternative, and LH bolts are available for the standard stock (but not the NATO AR15-mag stock). It can be fired wrong-handed by using a reverse chicken wing grip with quasi-gangsta roll (so the brass doesn't nail your face/neck). Or you can add a case deflector. 
The X95 has accuracy issues (unresolved last I checked). I'm waiting for the F90, but I don't know if it has a LH option. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 7:23:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't think they're bad at all. Kinda bulky, but you get used to the width. Lighter than a Steyr AUG, and the rail options are much better. The front ejection makes it easy to fire ambi, and they're very reliable, like a bullpup SCAR. What don't you like about them? BTW the Steyr AUG, I personally believe is the best bullpup and one of my favorite rifles overall. The Tavor is meh, PS90 is cute, I've already prepaid for an ATRAX and won't own anything from Keltec. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 7:31:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I literally can't have a conversation with you as I find NOTHING positive to say about the rifle. I own ALOT of rifles; I'd venture to say it is the worst functioning and designed rifle I've ever handled, let alone own. Actually, one positive thing is I personally think it looks cool. I like the space gun/Halo look. Looking forward to the IMI shotgun. BTW the Steyr AUG, I personally believe is the best bullpup and one of my favorite rifles overall. The Tavor is meh, PS90 is cute, I've already prepaid for an ATRAX and won't own anything from Keltec. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 7:33:44 PM EDT
[#13]
How much are you willing to pay
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Posted: 4/5/2018 7:45:45 PM EDT
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How much are you willing to pay Hence why I've been skipping over most of the EE listings. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 7:52:02 PM EDT
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A friend of mine owns an fs2000 and I got to check it out.
I'm a bit of a mechanical geek. Taking the rifle apart and seeing how it worked was amazing. Very unique and well thought out system. It's also got to be one of the most raw, authentic to military, 5.56 firearms ever allowed for civilian sales. It's highly unlikely that there will be another one like it. I figured I'd try to buy before they disappeared forever. Not terribly desperate to get one, but very interested in one as a novelty. |
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Posted: 4/7/2018 10:22:02 AM EDT
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Did you take the barrel assembly apart? I'd like to do a technical comparison on the "receiver," which is actually the aluminum ejection tube with the optics rail on the Tactical model. I'm curious if/how the F2000 is different, but I've got no one with a FS2000 around me. If you can borrow it again... new thread?
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Posted: 4/7/2018 12:30:09 PM EDT
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I don't understand how you can say that the Aug is better than the tavor (x95) with a straight face. Accuracy aside, EVERYTHING about the x95 is light-years ahead of the Aug. Your holding onto nostalgia my friend I have to agree the AUG is better than either Tavor model. The 2 downsides to the AUG are weight and lack of rail space up front. The add-on rails aren't a great solution. Waiting patiently for the F90 
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Posted: 4/7/2018 4:53:26 PM EDT
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Did you take the barrel assembly apart? I'd like to do a technical comparison on the "receiver," which is actually the aluminum ejection tube with the optics rail on the Tactical model. I'm curious if/how the F2000 is different, but I've got no one with a FS2000 around me. If you can borrow it again... new thread? But from what I remember, it seemed to basically just be a simple scaffold for the barrel/piston system, chute, and rail. I'll agree with most people commenting about the fs2000, it's got bad ergos and a poor feature set. But mechanically speaking it's an amazing system. I genuinely think an enclosed forward ejecting design is an ideal setup for bullpups. It's a shame that we'll likely never see a similar platform available to civilians in the future. |
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Posted: 4/7/2018 7:33:24 PM EDT
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I can't help on acquisition but I will say to disregard the naysayers who don't like this rifle.
I have had mine since they first came out & love it. Ergonomics are weird UNTIL you shoulder it then that fades away. It is the cleanest shooting 5.56 rifle I own and disassembly is a snap. The manual of arms is not the same as an AR, same for my HK's, FAL and Winchester 1894's - doesn't mean those are bad, just different. The only real downside is that the stock charging handle is weak but you can find solid aluminum ones out there and it is a very simple swap. 
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Posted: 4/8/2018 2:01:29 AM EDT
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No advice here to acquire one outside the usual channels that come with tracking down a discontinued desirable firearm, but I'm glad I scooped up one when I did.
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Posted: 4/10/2018 6:25:59 AM EDT
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Did you take the barrel assembly apart? |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 7:35:10 AM EDT
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I want to know if the "receiver" is different. I can post pics of the F2000 Tactical receiver this weekend. Really I'd like to find all the differences.
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Posted: 4/10/2018 2:08:21 PM EDT
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Ah, I get it. I think this has already been answered on the FN forum. IIRC, the left receiver shell is the serialized part on the standard and the rail is on the Tactical.
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Posted: 4/10/2018 4:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I literally can't have a conversation with you as I find NOTHING positive to say about the rifle. I own ALOT of rifles; I'd venture to say it is the worst functioning and designed rifle I've ever handled, let alone own. Actually, one positive thing is I personally think it looks cool. I like the space gun/Halo look. Looking forward to the IMI shotgun. BTW the Steyr AUG, I personally believe is the best bullpup and one of my favorite rifles overall. The Tavor is meh, PS90 is cute, I've already prepaid for an ATRAX and won't own anything from Keltec. Doesn’t blow out his windshield when firing inside the vehicle. Works awesome suppressed, and he took hundreds of varmints. Rabbits, yotes, ground squirrels, prairie dogs, whatever. |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 5:40:45 PM EDT
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Ah, I get it. I think this has already been answered on the FN forum. IIRC, the left receiver shell is the serialized part on the standard and the rail is on the Tactical. I want to know about F2000 Tactical vs FS2000 Tactical. I couldn't find the answer on FNforum. |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 9:33:17 PM EDT
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The 2500-3000 asking prices on the EE are pretty fair from what I have seen.
It's not like prices are going to go lower |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 10:20:19 PM EDT
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That's correct regarding standard vs Tactical. I want to know about F2000 Tactical vs FS2000 Tactical. I couldn't find the answer on FNforum. |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 11:17:40 PM EDT
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All the receivers have serial numbers. The serial on my F2000 Tactical is on the 4th rib from the front of the rail.
You're referring to the stock not blocking a select fire pack, and you're correct it does not, but what stops a FS2000 from using a F2000 stock assembly? Here is a F2000 Tactical barrel/receiver assembly out of the stock.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 11:20:12 PM EDT
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All the receivers have serial numbers. The serial on my F2000 Tactical is on the 4th rib from the front of the rail. You're referring to the stock not blocking a select fire pack, and you're correct it does not, but what stops a FS2000 from using a F2000 stock assembly? Here is a F2000 Tactical barrel/receiver assembly out of the stock. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/13082/480E52D4-4504-417C-A3A2-2FA0257FED34-511417.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/13082/E653B031-AF3E-4A34-852C-BF91C6C10913-511418.JPG For some reason I thought you were talking about the bodies. Aside from the shorter barrel, the receiver on the f2k is the same as the fs2k. |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 11:26:27 PM EDT
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That's odd though, isn't it? I thought ATF wasn't in the habit of allowing a Title I receiver to be identical to a Title II receiver. There is usually some small difference.
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Posted: 4/10/2018 11:43:58 PM EDT
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That's odd though, isn't it? I thought ATF wasn't in the habit of allowing a Title I receiver to be identical to a Title II receiver. There is usually some small difference. Maybe it's best not to look into this any further before certain federal entities get any ideas. |
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Posted: 4/10/2018 11:50:57 PM EDT
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I think if they were going to do anything, they'd have done it already.
I've wondered the same about differences between old SVT40 and AVT40 receivers. I'm not sure there are any (besides the markings). |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 12:10:22 AM EDT
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Nohair 
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Posted: 4/11/2018 12:22:59 AM EDT
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I tried to sell mine several times... No bites... I decided to keep it, after the last shop I consigned it with was shut down by the tax man, and I almost lost my rifle.
Barrettboy - what state are you in? |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 12:43:06 AM EDT
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I tried to sell mine several times... No bites... I decided to keep it, after the last shop I consigned it with was shut down by the tax man, and I almost lost my rifle. Barrettboy - what state are you in? |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 6:18:38 AM EDT
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I want to know about F2000 Tactical vs FS2000 Tactical. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I want to know about F2000 Tactical vs FS2000 Tactical. Quoted:
... but what stops a FS2000 from using a F2000 stock assembly? |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 1:54:00 PM EDT
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I don't understand how you can say that the Aug is better than the tavor (x95) with a straight face. Accuracy aside, EVERYTHING about the x95 is light-years ahead of the Aug. Your holding onto nostalgia my friend You going to grab a x95 in SHTF? Over a M4? Doubt it. The QC barrel on the AUG is still unbeat 40 years later. |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 2:22:58 PM EDT
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Nohair swore by his, and I believe he has used one more than anyone else on earth. Doesn’t blow out his windshield when firing inside the vehicle. Works awesome suppressed, and he took hundreds of varmints. Rabbits, yotes, ground squirrels, prairie dogs, whatever. |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 4:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a suppressed Walther P22 that I've never cleaned and has never had a misfire....but I don't go telling everyone it's a reliable firearm either. My point is there is always one out there...my guess is his ran so well due to the excessive use. For example, I can't get a mag out of my FS2000 without putting the rifle on the ground, stepping on it, and yanking as hard as I can. Maybe after 5000 rounds it would 'break in'. I shoot my FS2000 regularly and primarily shoot Wolf 55gr and Federal M193 through mine using a variety of USGI magazines both old and new and have had two failures, both of which were related to me not having the magazine seated properly. It's also accurate for what it is. Also, as far as the F2000 and FS2000 stocks...They're the same I believe. The full auto function comes from the selector lever and the trigger/hammer pack. The automatic selector allows you to pull the trigger further to the rear than the semi-auto position thus enabling it to fire in fully automatic mode. The trigger/hammer pack has the additional sear("safety sear") and an additional notch in the hammer. Almost identical to the P90. |
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Posted: 4/11/2018 4:26:19 PM EDT
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Find a guy who needs money and give him $1200 at the gun show.
Worked for me 
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Posted: 4/11/2018 11:08:16 PM EDT
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I'll take my ak74. Let the hate flow
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Posted: 4/12/2018 1:07:54 AM EDT
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ive owned a fs2000, aug, and tavor. Fs2000 had the best trigger by far for a bullpup. I enjoyed it butregret selling it....
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Posted: 4/13/2018 5:10:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry you've had bad luck. I shoot my FS2000 regularly.. . As far as I know, there are 2 members. |
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Posted: 4/13/2018 7:51:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We could start a western PA fs2000 club... As far as I know, there are 2 members. |
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Posted: 4/13/2018 8:29:25 AM EDT
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I just picked mine up over the winter off armslist locally. Could have been from that guy though!
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Posted: 4/18/2018 9:44:01 PM EDT
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Check local high volume gun stores regularly, since they are a love/hate thing, they may have a higher than average 'get rid of' percentage.
In January, I handled one on the used rack thinking I might want it. It was used, but not abused (by external exam), but I wanted to do some research first. After some reading, I decided I wanted it but it was already gone at $1900 by the time I returned. Well, fast forward to last month when on a random visit I was stunned to see another on the rack (neither were the military model), but this one was like new at the same price; $1900. I bought it, and when the guy brought out the box, it had the tactical rail inside in its own box. The only thing that was missing was a correct sling, which I understand was shipped with them. Haven't yet fired it... 
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Posted: 4/19/2018 2:28:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Check local high volume gun stores regularly, since they are a love/hate thing, they may have a higher than average 'get rid of' percentage. In January, I handled one on the used rack thinking I might want it. It was used, but not abused (by external exam), but I wanted to do some research first. After some reading, I decided I wanted it but it was already gone at $1900 by the time I returned. Well, fast forward to last month when on a random visit I was stunned to see another on the rack (neither were the military model), but this one was like new at the same price; $1900. I bought it, and when the guy brought out the box, it had the tactical rail inside in its own box. The only thing that was missing was a correct sling, which I understand was shipped with them. Haven't yet fired it... |
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Posted: 4/20/2018 5:29:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As far as I know, they never included a sling. I have a 56xx-serial that didn't come with one. The factory F2000 sling seemed to have spotty availability over the years, so alternatives like the Urban ERT sling were made more popular. |
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Posted: 4/22/2018 7:00:23 PM EDT
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Thanks, I just assumed it was a part of the accessory pack. There are several options out there, I went with this company as theirs allowed me to remove the butt cap (where the trigger assembly is) for cleaning without having to remove the entire sling assembly. http://sktindustries.com/catalog/doc5.pdf I also like the little pouch they sell that fits into a cubby in the rear of the stock. Handy for keeping track of the gas piston tool and other small items. http://sktindustries.com/catalog/doc11.pdf |
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Posted: 5/12/2018 11:11:28 PM EDT
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Sent you an email and IM on a local one for $1700.
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