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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:06:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:10:30 AM EDT
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Hmm, so basically a DA wolf beefed up to handle rifle use? I'm interested.
9mm or .45 bore? I'm assuming it accepts all omega type mounts like the Nomad? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:13:25 AM EDT
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Cool.
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:13:41 AM EDT
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Hmm, so basically a DA wolf beefed up to handle rifle use? I'm interested. 9mm or .45 bore? I'm assuming it accepts all omega type mounts like the Nomad? I’d call the wipe a neat novelty |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:14:26 AM EDT
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Hmm, so basically a DA wolf beefed up to handle rifle use? I'm interested. 9mm or .45 bore? I'm assuming it accepts all omega type mounts like the Nomad? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:15:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interested to know if it can do 556. The original Wolf could 300 BO supers, right? I know there’s a difference in chamber pressure and muzzle pressure etc but I’d be curious if it’s okay on 8” 300 supers, would it be fine on 16” 556 |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:15:59 AM EDT
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I’d like to hear how the rifle ratings changed from mine that should clear next month 
Not that it's Dead Air's--or any manufacturers--fault of course |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interested to know if it can do 556. The original Wolf could 300 BO supers, right? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:19:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got to love the suppressor game
Not that it's Dead Air's--or any manufacturers--fault of course |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:20:45 AM EDT
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Definitely interested.
Wonder if Wolverine adapters would fit the Wolfman. Got all the adapters I'd ever need... . |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:21:18 AM EDT
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Dead air keeps rolling out cool shit.
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:23:54 AM EDT
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9mm or .45 bore? I'm assuming it accepts all omega type mounts like the Nomad? For fuck's sake, has this industry not learned what a lack of information does to product announcements? A caliber rating of "Optimized for 9mm subgun platforms" is not helpful information when you just finished saying "subgun, light duty rifle, and pistol use." |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:26:03 AM EDT
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Interested to know if it can do 556. The original Wolf could 300 BO supers, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hmm, so basically a DA wolf beefed up to handle rifle use? I'm interested. 9mm or .45 bore? I'm assuming it accepts all omega type mounts like the Nomad? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:26:54 AM EDT
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9mm or .45 bore? I'm assuming it accepts all omega type mounts like the Nomad? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:32:37 AM EDT
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What is the original Wolf construction? 400 series stainless? I see the Wolfman is 17-4 and it looks like the K configuration is about an inch longer than the K configuration of the Wolf.
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:34:56 AM EDT
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I'm so glad I waited to buy the wolf! I was hoping they would come out with a wipe end cap for it.
But does the wipe end cap only work on the Wolfman? Will it or can it be sold as an accessory end cap legally since the Sandman and Wolf can share end caps? I would love a wipe on my sandman L for 300 subs. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:35:40 AM EDT
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What is the original Wolf construction? 400 series stainless? I see the Wolfman is 17-4 and it looks like the K configuration is about an inch longer than the K configuration of the Wolf. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:38:43 AM EDT
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Got to love the suppressor game
Not that it's Dead Air's--or any manufacturers--fault of course Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I’d like to hear how the rifle ratings changed from mine that should clear next month
Not that it's Dead Air's--or any manufacturers--fault of course 
ETA: glad I waited too. The extra inch in the short configuration allowing for a bit more dB reduction would push me into the Wolfman camp instead of the Omega 9K. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:40:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe the 9sd is 17-4 as well |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:42:07 AM EDT
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It looks like they teased the Wolfman yesterday in this IG post, along with another can:
DA Monsters IG post The other can looks like it has a Keymo rear end, maybe a modular Sandman? Wipe holder end cap? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:42:55 AM EDT
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It's a 9mm bore subgun can. Why would you want to use it on 5.56? It would have to be 3-lug or direct thread, unless they changed the rear mounting threads.
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:50:31 AM EDT
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It's a 9mm bore subgun can. Why would you want to use it on 5.56? It would have to be 3-lug or direct thread, unless they changed the rear mounting threads. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:50:32 AM EDT
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It's a 9mm bore subgun can. Why would you want to use it on 5.56? It would have to be 3-lug or direct thread, unless they changed the rear mounting threads. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:52:39 AM EDT
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It looks like they teased the Wolfman yesterday in this IG post, along with another can: DA Monsters IG post The other can looks like it has a Keymo rear end, maybe a modular Sandman? Wipe holder end cap? I asked about a Mask K in a IG live video with SS the other day and he didnt see it to ask them about it. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:52:47 AM EDT
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It looks like they teased the Wolfman yesterday in this IG post, along with another can: DA Monsters IG post The other can looks like it has a Keymo rear end, maybe a modular Sandman? Wipe holder end cap? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:56:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:58:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the Ghost-M |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 10:58:59 AM EDT
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A 9mm can that could also handle occasional 5.56 use would probably be a very popular first suppressor purchase for many people. Griffin has demonstrated there is a market for it with the Optimus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a 9mm bore subgun can. Why would you want to use it on 5.56? It would have to be 3-lug or direct thread, unless they changed the rear mounting threads. It always looked like a huge trade off to me and once I added up all the extras to make it work with everything it made more sense to go with multiple suppressors. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 11:02:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has the Optimus continued to sell well? I know they were popular pre 41F, but what about today? It always looked like a huge trade off to me. Once I added up all the extras to make it work with everything it made more sense to go with multiple suppressors. That same logic goes for the Mystic X and any other Multi gun cans. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 11:42:30 AM EDT
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Hello All,
Here's a super quick lowdown. I'm not going to be online much today so here's more info: Optimized more for 300BLK and supers. It'll be light duty, as in no full auto. It's also optimized for 9X39. This is now our quietest 300BLK suppressor, with averages dropping down into the low 120's. The short configuration has been optimized for performance in 9mm. It went from 4.1" to 5.1", but that buys you a 10dB improvement in performance on an MP5 with 3-lug. The 3-lug is the worst case mount, with how how it moves the muzzle inside the blast chamber. Those with fairly flush mount 3-lugs see a huge drop in performance. We're about .3" longer than those, but it won't hurt performance. The old design was supposed to be as short as it could go while still being hearing safe. This time we decided to make it sound awesome. Long configuration in 9mm will still sit in the low 120's like before also. The wipe cap is a fun addition for the short config. It doesn't really do much in the long config since it's already so optimized. You can put whatever wipe you want in there as long as it's 1" diameter down to about 5/8" diameter. There's a threaded in wipe retainer that holds it down and it has little ridges that hold odd shaped wipes well. As in, it can be square if you never learned how to cut perfect circles with scissors. That's a tad smaller diameter than our old Ghost one, but you can trim it down in seconds and it'll fit. This won't be an accessory, because ATF and competitors sending letters to them. BUT. We should have some type of upgrade program in the future. Also note that his is our current rifle socket pattern (1.125-28 with taper lock). Just throwing that out there. Todd Magee Dead Air Monster Squad Team Lead |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 12:01:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Having shot my wolf in k config comfortably last weekend, I’m sure the extra inch will make this amazing! I mean, who couldn’t benefit from an extra inch?
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Posted: 4/29/2019 12:19:21 PM EDT
[#31]
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Hello All, Here's a super quick lowdown. I'm not going to be online much today so here's more info: Optimized more for 300BLK and supers. It'll be light duty, as in no full auto. It's also optimized for 9X39. This is now our quietest 300BLK suppressor, with averages dropping down into the low 120's. The short configuration has been optimized for performance in 9mm. It went from 4.1" to 5.1", but that buys you a 10dB improvement in performance on an MP5 with 3-lug. The 3-lug is the worst case mount, with how how it moves the muzzle inside the blast chamber. Those with fairly flush mount 3-lugs see a huge drop in performance. We're about .3" longer than those, but it won't hurt performance. The old design was supposed to be as short as it could go while still being hearing safe. This time we decided to make it sound awesome. Long configuration in 9mm will still sit in the low 120's like before also. The wipe cap is a fun addition for the short config. It doesn't really do much in the long config since it's already so optimized. You can put whatever wipe you want in there as long as it's 1" diameter down to about 5/8" diameter. There's a threaded in wipe retainer that holds it down and it has little ridges that hold odd shaped wipes well. As in, it can be square if you never learned how to cut perfect circles with scissors. That's a tad smaller diameter than our old Ghost one, but you can trim it down in seconds and it'll fit. This won't be an accessory, because ATF and competitors sending letters to them. BUT. We should have some type of upgrade program in the future. Also note that his is our current rifle socket pattern (1.125-28 with taper lock). Just throwing that out there. Todd Magee Dead Air Monster Squad Team Lead |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 12:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the Ghost-M |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 12:38:11 PM EDT
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Also note that his is our current rifle socket pattern (1.125-28 with taper lock). Just throwing that out there. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 12:59:50 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a wolf in for service?
I sent mine in back in February, due to a baffle strike. Can was bad out of the box. Apparently im getting a wolfman back instead. It's just taking forever. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 1:10:58 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hello All, Here's a super quick lowdown. I'm not going to be online much today so here's more info: Optimized more for 300BLK and supers. It'll be light duty, as in no full auto. It's also optimized for 9X39. This is now our quietest 300BLK suppressor, with averages dropping down into the low 120's. The short configuration has been optimized for performance in 9mm. It went from 4.1" to 5.1", but that buys you a 10dB improvement in performance on an MP5 with 3-lug. The 3-lug is the worst case mount, with how how it moves the muzzle inside the blast chamber. Those with fairly flush mount 3-lugs see a huge drop in performance. We're about .3" longer than those, but it won't hurt performance. The old design was supposed to be as short as it could go while still being hearing safe. This time we decided to make it sound awesome. Long configuration in 9mm will still sit in the low 120's like before also. The wipe cap is a fun addition for the short config. It doesn't really do much in the long config since it's already so optimized. You can put whatever wipe you want in there as long as it's 1" diameter down to about 5/8" diameter. There's a threaded in wipe retainer that holds it down and it has little ridges that hold odd shaped wipes well. As in, it can be square if you never learned how to cut perfect circles with scissors. That's a tad smaller diameter than our old Ghost one, but you can trim it down in seconds and it'll fit. This won't be an accessory, because ATF and competitors sending letters to them. BUT. We should have some type of upgrade program in the future. Also note that his is our current rifle socket pattern (1.125-28 with taper lock). Just throwing that out there. Todd Magee Dead Air Monster Squad Team Lead |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 2:08:19 PM EDT
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A wipe? I dont understand why the odessa 9 didnt have a wipe option.
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Posted: 4/29/2019 2:57:46 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has the Optimus continued to sell well? I know they were popular pre 41F, but what about today? It always looked like a huge trade off to me and once I added up all the extras to make it work with everything it made more sense to go with multiple suppressors. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 3:08:43 PM EDT
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Does anyone have a wolf in for service? I sent mine in back in February, due to a baffle strike. Can was bad out of the box. Apparently im getting a wolfman back instead. It's just taking forever. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 3:20:45 PM EDT
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Having shot my wolf in k config comfortably last weekend, I’m sure the extra inch will make this amazing! I mean, who couldn’t benefit from an extra inch? @mageever Next thing you know maybe we will see a 1.5" OD Wolf/Odessa hybrid and you will be able to erector set a rifle can with a 9mm bore and mounts and front caps a la cart. One can only hope...as thread together baffles also would have use for short, fat, co-axial designs. That could probably be done with Odessa parts as they already exist. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 3:21:30 PM EDT
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So, they cutting off the back end and welding up a rifle socket end and then welding a wolfmann stack in order to preserve your serial? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 3:36:51 PM EDT
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This all makes sense now. I have been trying to order a wolf for awhile now and my dealer could not get one it. Looks like I better give him a call and put the money towards this
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Posted: 4/29/2019 4:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 9mm can that could also handle occasional 5.56 use would probably be a very popular first suppressor purchase for many people. Griffin has demonstrated there is a market for it with the Optimus. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:17:37 PM EDT
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So is 9mm full auto good to go with the Wolfman?
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:23:08 PM EDT
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So is 9mm full auto good to go with the Wolfman? |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:34:29 PM EDT
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Full auto 9mm yes, 300 blk light duty is what I understand.
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:35:33 PM EDT
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Full auto 9mm yes, 300 blk light duty is what understand. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The man said no. He said light duty no full auto. ETA: The website specifies semi only for supersonic rifle rounds. I also see that the Wolf 9SD is now listed as discontinued on the DA website. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe "current rifle socket pattern" pertained to the end cap. The Wolf and Wolfman should have the same exact mount features. I'm guessing the only difference on the main modules is 2 extra baffles and cleaner laser welds. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:44:31 PM EDT
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He said rifle socket pattern to fit taper lock. Unless I'm confused then I'm not sure why you'd need a taper lock in the end cap. I'm assuming he means rifle caliber muzzle taper devices when he references rifle socket pattern. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 5:48:11 PM EDT
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The Wolfman product page has been updated with:
Rating: 5.56, 300BLK, 7.62x39, 9X39, 350 Legend, (semi-only on supersonic rifle ammo), .380, 9mm |
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