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Posted: 7/22/2008 1:58:02 AM EDT
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As far as I know it can't be broken down but I may be wrong. Is it the SBR version or the non-SBR one?
119db is very vague as 115gr supersonic will be louder than 147gr subsonic ammo. The key to look at is dB reduction not the final numbers as its 100% dependent of the round being fired. I have seen(and have a few) 9mm cans that are notably quieter than any of the SRT's that I have shot(including an integrally suppressed 9mm upper. All suppressors to my experience have the same lifespan whether they be integral, screw on, QD, and end user serviceable. Where in NM are you? -TS |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 3:48:18 AM EDT
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Technically, I have have one. It's just sitting at the dealer's place waiting for my paperwork to return. It can't be taken apart. No real need to clean a centerfire can.
Call Doug and talk to him. He's a nice guy. I asked him how long the suppressor would last. I can't remember what he said, but I do remember thinking to myself that there was no way I would ever shoot that much (not much help, I know). It was tens of thousands of rounds. I can't have SBRs in AL, so I went with the 16" version. I was impressed by the suppressor testing, which is why I started looking at the SRT in the first place. |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 5:41:28 AM EDT
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It was on www.silencerresearch.com/Reviews/9mm_integral_shootout.htm and they used 147g (subsonic) rounds. What I am looking for, is something that will be similar to shooting an unsuppressed .22LR using CB longs. My Marlin 60 with CB longs is about the same, maybe a bit louder than most pellet air rifles. Ive noticed many of the suppressed .22LR rifles are around 115dB, also similar to an air rifle/paintball gun. Of the 3 integral 9mm's that silenerresearch.com reviews, the one I mentioned above was the only one that came close to that level of quietness. EDIT: Oh yea, non-SBR. I think is is part of the reason why I like the integral so much. Fully suppressed (it seems like they tend to be a bit quieter than threaded cans), yet you can retain 16" OAL. There is no unsuppressed data, as they cant be tested that way. One thing I noticed in a video I just watched, the SRT is not designed to slow a 115/124g bullet down, so they will produce the supersonic crack. I guess if you want subsonic noise levels, the 147g round must be used. I am in Roswell, so if you ever want to get together and give me a little schooling on the subject in person, I'd be delighted to do so. Just let me know what your favorite flavor of beer is ;) |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 5:58:05 PM EDT
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What combo would be quieter than SRT's integral upper? I would hate to buy one if there is a better setup available. Thanks |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 6:55:06 PM EDT
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I have heard several different 9mm cans. While I haven't heard John Norrell's version yet, I have heard Doug's upper. In fact I am waiting for it to clear the BATF right now. I have also heard the 45 ACP version and will do a comparison between the two when mine clears.
Among the 9mm cans I've heard was the Trident which is pretty close if not the top suppressor for mountable 9mm. Granted it was two different shooting sessions I can' believe the Trident could be as quiet as the SRT Upper even with water media. If there is a quieter 9mm upper being produced I'd like to know of it. As for can the suppressor be broken down for cleaning? No it can't. I am going to run the upper on a registered SBR, but I'm still having Doug run it out to 16". I am having him do so as John on Silencer Research did a test comparing 9mm barrel lengths to level of suppression. It was clear that the additional few inches decreased the overall sound signature. My upper will allow the can to be removed so I can clean the porting from time to time if needed, but the suppressor can't be disassembled. I hope this helps.... and I wouldn't be afraid of taking the leap to buy SRT's upper. I have been wanting one for a long time and it finally made it to the top of the list. Doug's upper is set up for use with 147gr subsonic or close to subsonic ammo. It's lightly ported for other reasons, but not really for dropping velocity. I wanted to keep what hitting power there was with a 9mm. A subsonic 115gr bullet just doesn't do it for me. Besides I run 147 Subs in my pistols. I have an Oly AR lower that accepts Glock mags. I wanted a pistol and carbine both suppressed that take the same mags and ammo. |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 9:33:24 PM EDT
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Buy the SRT, I have 5 cans made by Doug and they kick ASS. He is awesome to deal with and always quick to get paperwork and can to the dealer. Any time I have a question he is quick to get back to me and very easy to deal with.
All 5 of my SRT's are excellent quality no problems at all. I have 2-5.56, 1-7.62, 1-9mm, and 1-.22, they rock. I recently purchased another can which Im waiting on approval since early June then I will have 6 of my 8 cans made by SRT. Its the Titanium can for one of my 5.56 SBR's which I can't wait to shoot. He let me test fire one a couple months ago and it was sweet, light weight and quiet with the subsonic 5.56 he has. Even with xm193 it kicked ass. You would not go wrong buying anything from him, all of his sound data is completed by Alan Paulson an independant sound expert. Even if another company has something quieter Doug isn't afraid to put that on his paperwork. He does testing most supressor companies don't even bother with. Besides the sound value 1 meter to the left of the muzzle, he also has them tested 15 centimeters from the ear where the shooter is going to get most of the noise. Its the most honest data I have ever seen. If you like what you have and it works for you fine. It doesn't mean the data provided by Doug is wrong. I have shot every supressor he makes, his numbers are good to go. 
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