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Posted: 9/15/2004 6:31:35 PM EDT
Well some of my lecture classes are just boring so I spend time drawing away. I manly draw firearm conversions like a BAR clone out of a Saiga rifle or a STG-44 from a M96 Carbine. Recently I have sketched up a need looking fire arm. Basically a Cobray 10 with a cocking handle on the left hand side and a side folding stock. Being dirt cheap (and the R22 isn’t out yet). Would putting a stock on a Cobray constitute a SBR? Can it be done (legally?), Can pistols (that’s what it is right?) have stocks? What does an M96 cost ?
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Posted: 9/15/2004 6:44:40 PM EDT
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If it doesn't meet the length requirements and you put a stock on it then it's a short barreled rifle.
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Posted: 9/15/2004 6:47:10 PM EDT
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But is it a Pistol or AOW to start with? DO they make Cobray Carbines? Can a Carbine become a pistol, or would that make it a SBR/AOW... damn things are so confusing.
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Posted: 9/16/2004 6:49:43 AM EDT
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You cant put a stock on a pistol unless you make the barrel 16" or longer. A number of places sell carbine uppers and stocks for M11/MAC 10 type weapons.
You can buy a M11 or other Cobray type carbines. They are not noted for thier reliability. I suspect a whole new generation of these type weapons will emerge since the demise of the AWB. |
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Posted: 9/16/2004 10:55:36 AM EDT
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So I could buy a M11/MAC 10 as a pistol (about $150 is it?) and then buy a Carbine upper (another $50-70) and have the two inter switch-able with no legal issues? Pistol one day, Stocked Carbine the next?
Reliability, accuracy and weight with something like this is hardly an issue, I just want to tear it apart and play with it. |
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Posted: 9/16/2004 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Yes, you can even leave the long barrel on without the stock, just never the stock without the long barrel. As far as reliability goes, get an older model, made by SWD in Atlanta, and you will not have reliability problems, I have one and I would rate it with the AK as far as it going bang when you pull the trigger. Edited to add: the fake cans look a little better than the plain long barrel, but you would have to weld it in place. |
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Posted: 9/16/2004 4:27:57 PM EDT
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I agree with P38. A pistol can be made into a rifle and then back to pistol but a rifle can't be made into a pistol.
Hey P38, have you seen the MAC 9 that is coming out that uses standard Sten gun mags? That would be the one I would get. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:31:17 AM EDT
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scan the pic of the BAR clone I might just want one of those.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 6:30:12 PM EDT
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Yeah, I saw those, they also have a kit that you can use to change out your magwell to use sten mags, but it would be just as cheap to buy a new gun, unless you own a Class III version.
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