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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2018 2:43:28 PM EDT
http://www.recoilweb.com/sionyx-night-vision-camera-at-outdoor-retailer-139870.html#ixzz5MCQW21iE
Has anybody checked these out? I've been waiting to see the digital color night vision in a form factor small enough to be head-mounted. Are we finally there? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 11:36:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mickdonaldson]
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Here's the full pic so you can read. 'NVG' on the unit, and showing it helmet mounted, are good signs. For sure, we need to see comparo pics at 1%-49% Moon or equivalent. And that color needs NO painting! It looks beautiful. That DoD contract is paying off! LOL!
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Posted: 1/21/2020 12:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini:
Intredasting https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23396/278C6EFC-CCFE-4690-8AD2-56A49DFB2027-1243321.png |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 12:17:46 PM EDT
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Have they announced MSRP on the Pro yet?
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Posted: 1/21/2020 1:39:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maverick52]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MainePure:
Have they announced MSRP on the Pro yet?  Attached File Attached FileSeems like its up on their website also, which happened pretty recently as I already looked once this morning. https://www.sionyx.com/which-sionyx-camera-is-right-for-you/ Looks like it is the same as the normal aurora but with a pic mount, SD card, hardshell case, and extra battery. It does say "moonless starlight" for the pro instead of "near moonless starlight" for the regular & sport. None of their listed specs point to why that would be, so maybe there will be more info. |
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Posted: 1/21/2020 2:09:07 PM EDT
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I'm happy to fund them as they improve. It's the price of being an early adopter of the tech. Shit how many of us spent $1k plus for an iphone that's like 10 generations old and won't do shit compared to what we have now?
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Posted: 1/21/2020 3:03:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Wider fov
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ME, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 3:10:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Very exciting. Cant wait to see what it can do. I would definitely sell off my Sport(which I love)to fund a Pro.
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Posted: 1/21/2020 3:20:36 PM EDT
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Have they ever released a firmware update?
if so it an easy update? |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 3:36:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mpatch:
Have they ever released a firmware update? if so it an easy update? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 4:03:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mickdonaldson]
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Here's the part I'm interested in:
 I never found FOV to be a problem, but I know others have. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 5:04:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Styer]
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Delete
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Posted: 1/21/2020 5:55:53 PM EDT
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May be selling my Sports to get a set of Pros if there is a significant difference in low light performance.
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Posted: 1/21/2020 6:37:03 PM EDT
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This is exciting. I'll wait until Black Friday 2020 to consider getting a set. But look forward to seeing what these gen 2 can do. Very exciting.
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Posted: 1/21/2020 7:23:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gr8Santini]
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I wonder how long it will be before these new models start shipping.
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Posted: 1/21/2020 7:26:29 PM EDT
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I’m interested to see how much better low light performance they get from the new model.
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Posted: 1/21/2020 8:15:34 PM EDT
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SC, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 8:16:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827:
I’m interested to see how much better low light performance they get from the new model. |
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Posted: 1/21/2020 9:04:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827:
I’m interested to see how much better low light performance they get from the new model. |
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Posted: 1/21/2020 9:41:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer:
This is exciting. I'll wait until Black Friday 2020 to consider getting a set. But look forward to seeing what these gen 2 can do. Very exciting. |
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Posted: 1/21/2020 10:09:59 PM EDT
[#20]
Finally got my helmet / dual auroras, anker battery, cables, etc set up today. Only had a chance to try it in a dark room w the fandyfire. Was awesome to this NV noob
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Posted: 1/22/2020 12:20:33 AM EDT
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I added another chip to the board now at 1.4 amps. Looks pretty good. I can see a very very faint projection in analog. if your not looking for it you will think its a shadow.
Ill get some funds together and make a second one then get this one out to guys to play with. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 1:23:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer:
Looks like Farrow Tech is now offering a mount adapter for the Aurora. Nice to see more options. https://farrow.tech/sionyx-aurora-pvs14-helmet-mount-adapter/ Of course this assumes someone doesn't beat me to the punch first.... |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 1:30:52 AM EDT
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Quote Historycool 
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 6:41:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice work, slowly but surely...
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Posted: 1/22/2020 7:48:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Nice work, slowly but surely... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 7:53:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sarge1119: Anyone know if these will have the capability to be weapon mounted? |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 8:48:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
According to that comparison chart ^ Yes. Tested to 4,000rds with 5.56 and comes with Rail Mount. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Originally Posted By Sarge1119: Anyone know if these will have the capability to be weapon mounted? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 8:56:22 AM EDT
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Pre-Ordered Two, LOL! Screaming deal on a Bino setup of OG/Sport coming to you soon
I wonder how long the wait will be... |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 8:59:25 AM EDT
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Are the GPS units on these active or passive? Can it be disabled? I don’t care for the whole world knowing where it can steal my stuff.
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 9:07:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Luckystrike:
Are the GPS units on these active or passive? Can it be disabled? I don’t care for the whole world knowing where it can steal my stuff. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 9:41:09 AM EDT
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I don't understand why someone would spend $799 for the pro version instead of just shopping the EE for a used Gen3 PVS14 for an extra 700 or less depending.
Shit I picked up a Gen 3 tube in a pitbull housing a few years back for like $1200 if memory serves. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 9:53:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By night9:
I don't understand why someone would spend $799 for the pro version instead of just shopping the EE for a used Gen3 PVS14 for an extra 700 or less depending. Shit I picked up a Gen 3 tube in a pitbull housing a few years back for like $1200 if memory serves. - By your own admission, it's 50% of the cost of a USED item to buy a new device with a warranty. - COLOR night vision - Non-ITAR <- This is a big one for some people. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 9:57:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By night9:
I don't understand why someone would spend $799 for the pro version instead of just shopping the EE for a used Gen3 PVS14 for an extra 700 or less depending. Shit I picked up a Gen 3 tube in a pitbull housing a few years back for like $1200 if memory serves. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 11:15:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
"An extra $700" is a lot for some people. What quality did you get? Green gives me a headache, and any black dots or "Blems" would drive me nuts. I personally have been looking at 16:9 aspect ratio screens for 20 years, circles aren't my preference. Add to that, I hate Monoculars and prefer Binos - what's the cheapest, Blem Free, White Phospor, Gen3 Bino going for? Lot more than $1600 I think. Plus, Aurora Gen 2 performance will be better (how much is the question) and I'm pretty pleased with the current generation, for what I paid, for my usage scenarios. And finally, tech guys love getting in on the ground floor and testing stuff out and watching it mature - Auroras are the Guinea Pig Test Bed for Sionyx's DoD Digital Night Vision contracts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Originally Posted By night9:
I don't understand why someone would spend $799 for the pro version instead of just shopping the EE for a used Gen3 PVS14 for an extra 700 or less depending. Shit I picked up a Gen 3 tube in a pitbull housing a few years back for like $1200 if memory serves. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 11:26:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dace]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By night9:
I don't understand why someone would spend $799 for the pro version instead of just shopping the EE for a used Gen3 PVS14 for an extra 700 or less depending. Shit I picked up a Gen 3 tube in a pitbull housing a few years back for like $1200 if memory serves. My guess is within the next few years we will see the death of the PVS14 mechanical type technology and it be replaced by digital capability. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 1:51:16 PM EDT
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It’s unfortunate they didn’t change the shape of the housing to better accommodate mounting as Bino’s on a helmet.
The large protrusion on the right, left when to mount it upside down digs into my nose. Regardless I’m interested in the improvements and willing to buy another set it the moonless ability is significant. This could put a crimp in my plans to goto gen 3
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 3:32:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini: Great points. I JUST got by dual sports setup yesterday. Anxious to see what advances are made with the PRO |
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 3:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67:
The large protrusion on the right, left when to mount it upside down digs into my nose. 
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 3:42:48 PM EDT
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Unless they have better FOV or eye relief then the higher cost isnt worth it ... just get a good supplemental IR instead and keep your Aurora Sport ...
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Posted: 1/22/2020 3:43:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By St1650:
Unless they have better FOV or eye relief then the higher cost isnt worth it ... just get a good supplemental IR instead and keep your Aurora Sport ... |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 3:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By St1650:
Unless they have better FOV or eye relief then the higher cost isnt worth it ... just get a good supplemental IR instead and keep your Aurora Sport ... I had Photonis echo 14’s, L3 WP 14’s, but I don’t hunt or do anything so it was stupid to have that much money sitting in the safe. But I do want at least a somewhat legit night solution for SHTF. Again at 2x the capability of the sport.....I might bite. 50% moon or above I really liked the sport. The color just gets me every time. And I find it does help see things better. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 4:00:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace: If you want PVS14 night vision quality you will never be happy with an Aurora. If you care about everything else then the Aurora is better in every respect while being decent at night vision for the price point. As generations grow it will get better and better at night vision. My guess is within the next few years we will see the death of the PVS14 mechanical type technology and it be replaced by digital capability. I wasn’t trying to be a jerk to tnvc in the other thread but they are just wrong with their assessment that digital is still more than a decade away. I think it’ll be much, much sooner. And cheaper. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 4:05:17 PM EDT
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I have a tnvpvs14. I have used and can afford dual gen III.
I want to dual mount two pros and run these mother fuckers and see how much they are lacking compared to the $8k+ model dual setups. Lions gear is/has made a dual setup that makes them articulate and fold. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 4:10:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maverick52]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AIWB: I’m not sure I agree. I’m not totally against your point of view either. I want to see it actually perform. If it’s really 2x better? .......I dunno, depending on your intended application it might be worth it. I had Photonis echo 14’s, L3 WP 14’s, but I don’t hunt or do anything so it was stupid to have that much money sitting in the safe. But I do want at least a somewhat legit night solution for SHTF. Again at 2x the capability of the sport.....I might bite. 50% moon or above I really liked the sport. The color just gets me every time. And I find it does help see things better. If the "moonless starlight" capability is accurate then it makes sense for me to buy the pro over a sport. WI hunting regulations only allow light (including IR) at the point of kill, which means you're supposed to spot an animal (coyote, fox, racoon) before you shine a light. As amazing as the original Aurora and Sport are, they're still going to be limited to use with IR unless there is a decent amount of ambient light from the moon/snow so that automatically limits when I can hunt to ideal conditions. If the pro can make a noticeable improvement in less than ideal conditions it will be worthwhile, and still be cheaper than analog NV. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 4:51:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AIWB:
I agree. I sold all of my analog stuff. I was about to buy another 14 for SHTF but if I like the better performance out of this new offering.... forget it, I’m buying one. Probably two. I wasn’t trying to be a jerk to tnvc in the other thread but they are just wrong with their assessment that digital is still more than a decade away. I think it’ll be much, much sooner. And cheaper. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AIWB:
Originally Posted By Dace: If you want PVS14 night vision quality you will never be happy with an Aurora. If you care about everything else then the Aurora is better in every respect while being decent at night vision for the price point. As generations grow it will get better and better at night vision. My guess is within the next few years we will see the death of the PVS14 mechanical type technology and it be replaced by digital capability. I wasn’t trying to be a jerk to tnvc in the other thread but they are just wrong with their assessment that digital is still more than a decade away. I think it’ll be much, much sooner. And cheaper. But for the everyday person who needs it for outdoor use, hunting, self defense and SHTF digital capability is going to take off. It was and is only a matter of time. The question is once a major government gets involved it will take off even faster. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 5:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace: Maybe if you are talking night fighters who enter dark rooms in scary parts of the world. TNVC also has a lot invested in analog doing well. But for the everyday person who needs it for outdoor use, hunting, self defense and SHTF digital capability is going to take off. It was and is only a matter of time. The question is once a major government gets involved it will take off even faster. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 5:08:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini:
Intredasting https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23396/278C6EFC-CCFE-4690-8AD2-56A49DFB2027-1243321.png |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 5:12:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maverick52: Found this on their FB. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/280940/Screenshot_2020-01-21-11-43-07_png-1243476.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/280940/Screenshot_2020-01-21-11-41-37_png-1243475.JPG Seems like its up on their website also, which happened pretty recently as I already looked once this morning. https://www.sionyx.com/which-sionyx-camera-is-right-for-you/ Looks like it is the same as the normal aurora but with a pic mount, SD card, hardshell case, and extra battery. It does say "moonless starlight" for the pro instead of "near moonless starlight" for the regular & sport. None of their listed specs point to why that would be, so maybe there will be more info. Ok which one of you guys are gonna go buy and give us the details? |
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USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 5:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel:
PRO looks a little bigger but it could be angles... Ok which one of you guys are gonna go buy and give us the details? |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 5:44:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
All I can tell you is that they are Pre-Order at $799 ea. and I bought two. They say they will ship end of April. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Originally Posted By Dapzel:
PRO looks a little bigger but it could be angles... Ok which one of you guys are gonna go buy and give us the details? I won't be getting two though 
Hope someone continues to updated the list of helmet,mounts,lights,etc and settings |
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