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Posted: 8/29/2007 11:57:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: murderman]
There have been several threads in the past; here is a chance to consolidate current concepts for the topic.
Ballistic rig on the left, scout rig on the right. The plates are both bolted down to keep from changing position, with the top strap minimizing stress on that joint, as well as providing a very convenient place to ty-rap the Guardians. The MSA rig is balanced on a styrofoam mannequin head with the PVS both up and down; it is like that on a real head as well. 
Edited to add a couple shots with the CSM bracket: 
Updated with the do rag replacement pic. 
Latest mods...some paint and an M600C/KM2: 
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Posted: 4/25/2018 5:53:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullf-16:
Thanks, I'll just keep it on the OPsCore since it is much better. Also the TW has a Wilcox G24 with a powered dovetail J-arm set up for the -14. With the bungees on the sentinels its rock solid and i have about 3/8" clearance from my glasses. Even more when not using the rubber eyecups. Are they even necessary, i.e, seems their only purpose is to block light. NOt worried about that, im no operator.  |
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Posted: 4/25/2018 6:38:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kwikvette]
[#2]
Rather than bother with dual PVS14, I just picked up some Mod3'S
Ops Core Carbon Team Wendy EPIC Air Combat liner Team Wendy CAM FIT H-back retention TNVC Mohawk MK2 counterweight AB Nightvision Mod3B with AVS9 lenses Wilcox L4 G24 mount Peltor Comtac III earpro Peltor ARC rail adapters S&S Manta strobe Princeton Switch Rail light |
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Posted: 4/25/2018 6:40:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwikvette:
Rather than bother with dual PVS14, I just picked up some Mod3'S https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180425/c003d9011ab7f4167129889f4d6768ed.jpg |
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Posted: 4/25/2018 6:57:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aeneas2020: Looks awesome bud Looking forward to seeing your rig once you got it all together 
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Posted: 4/25/2018 7:32:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullf-16:
Thanks, I'll just keep it on the OPsCore since it is much better. Also the TW has a Wilcox G24 with a powered dovetail J-arm set up for the -14. With the bungees on the sentinels its rock solid and i have about 3/8" clearance from my glasses. Even more when not using the rubber eyecups. Are they even necessary, i.e, seems their only purpose is to block light. NOt worried about that, im no operator.
Never say never, and all, I've seen 'em used before, but it's not the "normal" way of running them, they tend to trap heat and moisture (leading to fogging), and remove a lot of situational awareness, particularly with binos when your only real indication of ambient visible light conditions is around the goggles. I've been a pretty unrepentant Ops-Core fan over the Team Wendys, even before there was any political hoopla over them, so I can't say I disapprove of your choice to run your Sentinels on the Ops-Core.
FWIW, if you find the TW suspension and pads more comfortable, you can always swap them and install all that stuff in the Ops-Core. ~Augee |
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Posted: 4/25/2018 7:44:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bullf-16]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: I honestly can't remember the last time I saw an actual operator using the eyecups.
Never say never, and all, I've seen 'em used before, but it's not the "normal" way of running them, they tend to trap heat and moisture (leading to fogging), and remove a lot of situational awareness, particularly with binos when your only real indication of ambient visible light conditions is around the goggles. I've been a pretty unrepentant Ops-Core fan over the Team Wendys, even before there was any political hoopla over them, so I can't say I disapprove of your choice to run your Sentinels on the Ops-Core.
FWIW, if you find the TW suspension and pads more comfortable, you can always swap them and install all that stuff in the Ops-Core. ~Augee 
Thanks TNVS for all you help here. I got my Sentinels from you a couple weeks ago from VIC. I would have a MAWL but that is also unobtanium at the moment. When you get the ops core bumps, i requested to be notified. WE'll see about that. NC is cool though. Good to hear about the eyecups. NOw how bout the demist shields and sacrificial lenses on the fronts? Should i be running those since i have em. Or maybe the amber filters???? sorry, newb as you know |
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Posted: 4/25/2018 8:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullf-16:
LOL....ive been dying for a new Opscore helmet since i got into this....unobtanium. I found mine on the EE. I needed a 2nd setup for my pvs14 so figured wth. I could find the TW all day long so i did it. I may just drop another 3 bills for an opscore when the new shipment shows up. Might as well. The TW is ok but whats with the rails on the side. Need a different peltor adapter etc. Its comfortable and it was in stock. For some reason i prefer new vs 2nd hand. It tends to itch my brain if its not new....
Thanks TNVS for all you help here. I got my Sentinels from you a couple weeks ago from VIC. I would have a MAWL but that is also unobtanium at the moment. When you get the ops core bumps, i requested to be notified. WE'll see about that. NC is cool though. Good to hear about the eyecups. NOw how bout the demist shields and sacrificial lenses on the fronts? Should i be running those since i have em. Or maybe the amber filters???? sorry, newb as you know If you’re not aware you can get covers that have a (roughly) .223 hole in the middle of them. When you flip them closed it brings everything very close to you in focus. So you set your normal focus to infinity and when you need to see close (in a room for example) you flip them closed and bam, everything is clear. Keep in mind this also restricts light but with new WP sents it shouldn’t be a prob. You can spend the money on actual products designed for this like the phokus(spelling?) or the tasier eclipse(again, spelling?) or you can save a lot of money and just buy two Butler creek caps (for scopes) and make the holes yourself. So it offers protection and added focus. |
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Posted: 4/25/2018 8:39:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DallasLooterShooter: Prepare to have your socks knocked off. The D2 illuminator is titties. Pic thread: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108939/IMG_1133-524588.JPG  So that’s what it’s like..
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Posted: 4/26/2018 2:02:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MBaylor9]
[#9]
Here is a new Ops Core upgrade shell only that I finished building using quality replica occ dial and replica side rails from a company,that makes ballistic helmets that these go on and not for airsoft so the quality is very similar to OPs Core. The pads and the actual helmet shell,and velcro are AUTHENTIC OPS CORE. Just finished it today
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Posted: 4/26/2018 8:39:19 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound: I would definitely recommend running the demist shields if for nothing else the protection they offer. As for the front lenses you have some options. If you're not aware you can get covers that have a (roughly) .223 hole in the middle of them. When you flip them closed it brings everything very close to you in focus. So you set your normal focus to infinity and when you need to see close (in a room for example) you flip them closed and bam, everything is clear. Keep in mind this also restricts light but with new WP sents it shouldn't be a prob. You can spend the money on actual products designed for this like the phokus(spelling?) or the tasier eclipse(again, spelling?) or you can save a lot of money and just buy two Butler creek caps (for scopes) and make the holes yourself. So it offers protection and added focus. 
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Posted: 4/26/2018 10:32:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
I would definitely recommend running the demist shields if for nothing else the protection they offer. As for the front lenses you have some options. If you’re not aware you can get covers that have a (roughly) .223 hole in the middle of them. When you flip them closed it brings everything very close to you in focus. So you set your normal focus to infinity and when you need to see close (in a room for example) you flip them closed and bam, everything is clear. Keep in mind this also restricts light but with new WP sents it shouldn’t be a prob. You can spend the money on actual products designed for this like the phokus(spelling?) or the tasier eclipse(again, spelling?) or you can save a lot of money and just buy two Butler creek caps (for scopes) and make the holes yourself. So it offers protection and added focus. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
Originally Posted By bullf-16:
LOL....ive been dying for a new Opscore helmet since i got into this....unobtanium. I found mine on the EE. I needed a 2nd setup for my pvs14 so figured wth. I could find the TW all day long so i did it. I may just drop another 3 bills for an opscore when the new shipment shows up. Might as well. The TW is ok but whats with the rails on the side. Need a different peltor adapter etc. Its comfortable and it was in stock. For some reason i prefer new vs 2nd hand. It tends to itch my brain if its not new....
Thanks TNVS for all you help here. I got my Sentinels from you a couple weeks ago from VIC. I would have a MAWL but that is also unobtanium at the moment. When you get the ops core bumps, i requested to be notified. WE'll see about that. NC is cool though. Good to hear about the eyecups. NOw how bout the demist shields and sacrificial lenses on the fronts? Should i be running those since i have em. Or maybe the amber filters???? sorry, newb as you know If you’re not aware you can get covers that have a (roughly) .223 hole in the middle of them. When you flip them closed it brings everything very close to you in focus. So you set your normal focus to infinity and when you need to see close (in a room for example) you flip them closed and bam, everything is clear. Keep in mind this also restricts light but with new WP sents it shouldn’t be a prob. You can spend the money on actual products designed for this like the phokus(spelling?) or the tasier eclipse(again, spelling?) or you can save a lot of money and just buy two Butler creek caps (for scopes) and make the holes yourself. So it offers protection and added focus. 
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Posted: 4/27/2018 1:41:32 AM EDT
[#12]
Can anyone chime in if I should bother doING the above mod to my Mod3's?
If you notice, my Mod3's are *not* like the other ones. |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 10:17:48 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwikvette:
Can anyone chime in if I should bother doING the above mod to my Mod3's? If you notice, my Mod3's are *not* like the other ones. |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 10:49:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Texasmusic: I use the butler creek covers on Sentinels. |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 12:01:38 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullf-16:
I just ordered the BC 09A for my sentinels and -14. Is the size that will work? |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 12:16:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwikvette:
Can anyone chime in if I should bother doING the above mod to my Mod3's? If you notice, my Mod3's are *not* like the other ones. You can play with the hole size to see what you like best. From pics I’ve seen some guys run 5 mm. Some 7. And if you fuck it up it’s only like $10. |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 1:37:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kwikvette]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound: It’s sorta hard to see but yeah, you just have to find the correct size. You might gave to shim a tad. I don’t remember what size mine are but they fit like a glove on my 14’s. You can play with the hole size to see what you like best. From pics I’ve seen some guys run 5 mm. Some 7. And if you fuck it up it’s only like $10. Running ANVIS 9 focusing lenses HERE, and the caps are different than what I had on my PVS14. Will check out the size later, but the caps are definitely a lot thicker. |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 2:58:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullf-16:
I just ordered the BC 09A for my sentinels and -14. Is the size that will work? |
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Posted: 4/27/2018 4:11:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bullf-16]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vanrichten:
07 is what I use on my sentinels and -14 and it is a perfect fit. Not shim/tape needed. 
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Posted: 4/27/2018 6:37:51 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullf-16:
Damn, ordered 3 of 09A....only 10 quid |
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Posted: 4/28/2018 9:43:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mattg72]
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Posted: 4/28/2018 10:51:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2018 11:51:13 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba: That bag is sexy. Who makes it? |
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Posted: 4/29/2018 12:00:51 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattg72:
https://www.hardheadveterans.com/products/combat-helmet-bag Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattg72:
Originally Posted By phurba: That bag is sexy. Who makes it? |
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Posted: 4/29/2018 1:16:40 AM EDT
[#25]
The threaded objective ring of the ANVIS is nominally the same size as that of the PVS-14, measuring my AVS-6 objectives versus the PVS-14 objectives on my MOD-3s, there was a .01" difference.
Most PVS-14 lens accessories will work perfectly fine with the threaded ANVIS objectives (there are ANVIS objectives without the threaded collar that are a smaller diameter), the internal threading is identical to work with LIFs, and the OD is close enough that accessories like the PVS-14 compass and others work just fine with ANVIS objectives. The Butler Creek 09A Eye fits the same on the ANVIS objective as it does on a PVS-14 objective, a little bit of electrical tape as a shim gets a good friction fit. ~Augee |
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Posted: 4/30/2018 8:32:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2018 7:44:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mattg72]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
Nice setup! On the peltors, are those plugs for a boom mic? They look similar to the ones on my comtacs. 
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Posted: 4/30/2018 9:48:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Build in progress, large Gentex TBH-II high cut. Needs a certain je ne sais quoi, but it's functional for now
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Posted: 5/1/2018 3:55:14 AM EDT
[#29]
Munzy and Augee are right, the Butler Creek 09A fit great with a little tape shimming. But instead of electrical tape I used some cut down black self-adhering bandage tape, which unlike most electrical tape leaves no sticky residue behind when you remove it.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 5:51:42 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattg72: Thanks. If you mean these, here's a closeup... https://i.imgur.com/pT2N7mq.jpg |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 5:48:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mattg72]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
That’s them. Thanks. Looks like u can run the same boom mic as the comtacs. Atleast the plug is the same. But there’s no down lead for a PTT so I’m confused. ????? https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-PELTOR-Audio-Input-Cable-FL6H-3-5mm-Mono-Plug-1-EA-Case/?N=5002385+3294754526&rt=rud |
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Posted: 5/2/2018 8:32:00 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Build in progress, large Gentex TBH-II high cut. Needs a certain je ne sais quoi, but it's functional for now https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/242214/IMG_20180430_205102066-530717.jpg |
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Posted: 5/3/2018 9:22:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aeneas2020:
What are you running as a counterweight? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aeneas2020:
Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
Build in progress, large Gentex TBH-II high cut. Needs a certain je ne sais quoi, but it's functional for now https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/242214/IMG_20180430_205102066-530717.jpg |
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Posted: 5/6/2018 1:51:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:32:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#35]
So the force to overcome method of flipping the goggle up and down with the Wilcox G11 mount and having to readjust the tilt after each time was enough to make me want a g24 with dovetail j arm. I found one on eBay for a steal with another shroud and lanyard so I went for it. At first I ordered the j arm without the switch to realize that they are shaped different and I couldn’t get the eye relief I was looking for. So I sent it back and got the switched one and I’m happy with it. I love not having to readjust after flipping the goggle up or down. And it also sets me up for the upgrade I’m looking to make to either dual -14s, a bnvd, or a mod3, haven’t made my decision yet.
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Posted: 5/11/2018 2:18:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2018 8:32:35 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kwikvette:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180510/eee03e1c0e1c6c48b388580bc552a6d6.jpg
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Posted: 5/12/2018 12:09:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kwikvette]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VIP3R: We need a high res photo That one was with my crappy cell phone 
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Posted: 5/12/2018 9:42:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
That’s them. Thanks. Looks like u can run the same boom mic as the comtacs. Atleast the plug is the same. But there’s no down lead for a PTT so I’m confused. ????? http://www.bosssafety.com/p-10167-peltor-fl6ac-wiring-harness-assembly.aspx I'm sure there's a 2 jack version for your headset style. Which ones are those? |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 8:52:45 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
I would definitely recommend running the demist shields if for nothing else the protection they offer. As for the front lenses you have some options. If you're not aware you can get covers that have a (roughly) .223 hole in the middle of them. When you flip them closed it brings everything very close to you in focus. So you set your normal focus to infinity and when you need to see close (in a room for example) you flip them closed and bam, everything is clear. Keep in mind this also restricts light but with new WP sents it shouldn't be a prob. You can spend the money on actual products designed for this like the phokus(spelling?) or the tasier eclipse(again, spelling?) or you can save a lot of money and just buy two Butler creek caps (for scopes) and make the holes yourself. So it offers protection and added focus.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/14/2018 9:51:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton:
Homebrewed lens cover for close up vision. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57642/20160308_202753479_iOS__3_-544098.JPG |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:02:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pcsutton]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
Perfect! I think I'm going to order a couple more sets of butler caps to play with hole size. Yours look smaller than mine and I'm interested in seeing the difference. I started off with a very small hole (think pinhole) and increased the diameter until I got a good balance between depth of field and the gain required to see something without turning the gain all the way up. |
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Posted: 5/15/2018 10:11:52 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton:
Think of it as an aperture, (f stop), on a camera lens. The smaller the aperture, the greater the depth of field. I started off with a very small hole (think pinhole) and increased the diameter until I got a good balance between depth of field and the gain required to see something without turning the gain all the way up. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 1:11:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton:
Think of it as an aperture, (f stop), on a camera lens. The smaller the aperture, the greater the depth of field. I started off with a very small hole (think pinhole) and increased the diameter until I got a good balance between depth of field and the gain required to see something without turning the gain all the way up. In fact it must trick the autogating because with my caps on, in very bright conditions, my image will be brighter than with the caps flipped up. Not a huge difference mind you, but noticeable. I took a 223 casing, heated it up, and burned a hole. Didn’t have a drill at the time. |
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Posted: 5/16/2018 11:15:57 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Pardon if I missed it, but what size butler cap for pvs-14? |
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Posted: 5/18/2018 2:28:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Random helmet pic. Disregard the paper plate, lol.
 Attached FileJust made up a case for them. Needs some holes for some batteries, but other than that I think it's set. Sending them off for the white phosphor treatment atm. Can't wait.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/18/2018 8:46:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2018 11:54:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bullf-16]
[#48]
Just shot this guy 2 hrs ago at sunset. Over 200lbs. Dropped at 100 yrds 6.8spc 90 gr TNT. Sc0pe was a Reap-Ir. Light in the pic is way more than there was at the shot. Brand new Galaxy S9+ really gathers light. The sun was below the horizon in this shot. TNVC Sentinels WP ftw. The REAP IR is pretty sweet
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Posted: 5/19/2018 5:58:14 PM EDT
[#49]
What are some reasons people prefer sentinels over mod3s? I’m stuck and am leaning toward the mod3 solely for the ability to play with a friend.
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Posted: 5/19/2018 6:31:18 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
What are some reasons people prefer sentinels over mod3s? I’m stuck and am leaning toward the mod3 solely for the ability to play with a friend. ~Augee |
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