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Posted: 4/29/2003 7:52:30 AM EDT
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Depending on its current configuration and the year it was manufacutred, the setup you are describing may be illegal. What is your current configuration and date of mfg.??
Assault weapons bans are a b!tch are they not? |
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Posted: 4/29/2003 12:08:44 PM EDT
[#2]
I built one very similar to this one quite a few years ago:
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Posted: 4/29/2003 3:54:32 PM EDT
[#3]
I am farmiliar with the ban, this rifle is from the late 80's.
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Posted: 4/30/2003 8:39:11 AM EDT
[#4]
Are you familiar with it enough to know the rifle has to have been in AW configuration before the ban? Just because a rifle was built before the ban doesn't mean it is "Pre-Ban."
I've also heard the caution all "they" have to prove is AW configuration, you will have to prove it's pre-ban status. All in all I think it's up to you to decide how much of a gamble it all is. |
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Posted: 4/30/2003 3:02:36 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes, I know all this.
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Posted: 4/30/2003 8:08:38 PM EDT
[#6]
Then you're aware that you may be committing a felony by changing the configuration of your 10/22.
That's what is so stupid about the ban as it affects these particular rifles. Unlike an AR-15 (where you can slap any "evil" features on it if the receiver is pre-ban), a 10/22 has to have been modified to folding stock or other "evil" configuration prior to the ban in order for it to be legally modified today. |
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Posted: 4/30/2003 9:21:09 PM EDT
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The law for an AR is exactly the same. Also, it seems nobody is giving bruh44 the benefit of the doubt here. For all we know he could've had a folding stock on it prior to Sept '94. Or a pistol grip and flash suppressor. Even if only on the rifle for a minute, that would then allow the rifle to be considered preban, and allow any evil features on it now. It would be very difficult to prove that the 10/22 didn't ever have a folding stock on it, even temporarily, prior to the ban. |
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Posted: 5/1/2003 8:10:46 PM EDT
[#8]
I have an AR 10/22.
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Posted: 5/1/2003 8:27:16 PM EDT
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Now what's all this talk about turning a nice little 10/22 into an assualt rifle...hmmmmmmmmm?
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Posted: 5/2/2003 10:11:43 PM EDT
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WHOA>..
wait a minute, i thought we can have anything on a .22lr rimfire rifle? Folding stock, pistol grip...etc etc. Am i wrong? Cause i was gonna buy a pistol grip/folding stock combo for my 10/22.... |
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Posted: 5/2/2003 11:04:23 PM EDT
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If it was in AW configuration prior to middle Sept of 1994, it can have all the evil features you want. If not, you can only add one evil feature to a semiauto rifle which uses a detachable magazine: bayonet lug, flash suppressor and/or threaded barrel, pistol grip, folding stock. Keep in mind that if you put a folding stock on a postban rifle as its one evil feature, it can't have a pistol grip since those are separate features. Kinda worthless having a folder with no way to grip the rifle. A sound suppressor is also considered a flash suppressor, even an integral can. If you've got a suppressor on a postban, there can be no other evil features. |
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Posted: 5/3/2003 12:27:42 AM EDT
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i thought th AW ban said centerfir in the wording... damnit. gotta go look it up now.
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Posted: 5/3/2003 2:45:35 AM EDT
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I thought the same thing because of someone online here pointing it out to me. They gave me a link to the wording and everything.
I looked again later and there is no mention of centerfire. He may have pointed out a state law or something and I didn't catch it. Not sure, but I was really confused when I saw it later without the word "centerfire" in it. |
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Posted: 5/3/2003 5:19:20 PM EDT
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The Federal AW ban applies to both centerfire and rimfire rifles. bruh44 can make his project gun because his is a preban, as he has stated, and because he already had a folding type stock before the ban (which of course he did
 ).the California AW ban specifies "centerfire" rifles, and exempts rimfires. What this means is I can still buy and import a preban rimfire with "evil" features - Jager AP-74, AMT Lightning,ect. Now, because of California's magazine ban, I wouldn't be able to import these models magazines (15rd & 25rd)........ through my FFL .
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Posted: 5/3/2003 6:35:09 PM EDT
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That's sweet. How much of a pain was it to put together? I've thought about doing something like it with my 10-22, the Choate folder that's on it is ok, but isn't as neat. A M3 greasegun/M231 port firing weapon wire stock would be cool also. |
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Posted: 5/3/2003 6:44:41 PM EDT
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Well thank you NOTACK. Glad to see somebody has faith in me.
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Posted: 5/4/2003 6:41:43 AM EDT
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It's not a matter of having faith in you. It's a matter of looking out for the safety and well-being of a brother shooter. :)
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Posted: 5/7/2003 10:06:21 PM EDT
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Origionaly posted by treetop
If it was in AW configuration prior to middle Sept of 1994, it can have all the evil features you want. If not, you can only add one evil feature to a semiauto rifle which uses a detachable magazine: bayonet lug, flash suppressor and/or threaded barrel, pistol grip, folding stock O.K. wait a miniute. what about all the stuff you can get from cabellas and basspro.they have pistolgrip stocks(folding stocks welded in the extended position),flash hiders, and all kinds of stuff like that. is it illigal to put more than one of those things on my post-ban 10/22. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 10:20:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Yes. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 10:28:40 PM EDT
[#20]
DAMNIT! I wanted to get a second 10/22 and do that.
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Posted: 5/17/2003 9:18:16 PM EDT
[#21]
I thought it was a telescoping stock, not a folding stock?
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Posted: 5/17/2003 9:33:30 PM EDT
[#22]
Either way. |
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Posted: 5/17/2003 10:30:18 PM EDT
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It sucks too 'cause a 10/22 w/a folding stock is one handy backpacking/truck/boat rifle to have around and cheap enough that you don't care if it gets beat up. I had one with a Ramline folding stock but the gang banger ripped it off yo! I moved right after that....
funny, they stole a Raven .25 and my 10/22 but left my TZ-75 9mm. Dumb.... |
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Posted: 5/28/2003 5:01:42 PM EDT
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Is there some place one can go to look up serial #'s of 10/22 carbines to see what year they were manufactured?
Bob
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Posted: 5/28/2003 6:33:41 PM EDT
[#25]
O.K, just so I understand this correctly.
I have a preban 10/22. Since I didn't have a folding stock prior to the ban, I can't have one now. Is that correct? |
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Posted: 5/29/2003 2:25:43 AM EDT
[#26]
That's correct Mach 1
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Posted: 6/2/2003 12:11:40 PM EDT
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mem.tcon.net/users/5010/5491/rimfires.htm You could just buy one of these
 Stay away from armscor tho! |
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Posted: 6/3/2003 5:06:17 AM EDT
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You can check your serial number here:
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/SE-H-RI-10-22.html |
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Posted: 6/3/2003 11:50:18 AM EDT
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Any one know where I can get one of those F.E.C. XC-220's? That looks like a fun little gun. |
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Posted: 6/4/2003 1:50:44 AM EDT
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I've really only seen one of those for sale ever R14.. It's reserve was 700 bucks also!
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Posted: 6/4/2003 11:37:36 AM EDT
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That sucks! Guess I'll have to stick the ruger.
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Posted: 6/4/2003 6:14:29 PM EDT
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Oops! Thats suposed to say stick WITH the ruger. I've got to pay more attention before I hit the submit button.
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Posted: 6/5/2003 1:06:02 PM EDT
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No Mach1 that is NOT CORRECT (BK??)
If you had a 10/22 in ANY assault weapons configuration, (detach mag and pistol grip and ANY of the other features, or detach mag and any two of the other features, folding, flash, supress, telescopingstock), then you may add on more evil features (had flash, detach, and pistol, but now want folding stock), you may ADD features, or exchange... However, if you had a plain Jane 10/22 from 1988 and didn't do anything to it, then it doesn't qualify as an AW and is not preban... =( |
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Posted: 6/9/2003 1:18:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Yes, Phoenix is correct. I had assumed non-AW configuration.
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