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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:15:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4]
Been thinking about a new .22 pistol and would prefer it's threaded for a suppressor.
Outside of really expensive pistols such as Volquartzen, is there any pistol platform out there worth considering? I prefer platforms that have always been dedicated .22's, which is where the Mark VI resides along with several others. Looking for a pistol that isn't temperamental with ammo, built to last many years and would prefer it come with a threaded barrel (though not a deal breaker for the right gun). Some companies build their offerings off of Ruger pistols, but I'm not familiar with them, the build quality and their longevity. The only exception to this is my AWC Amphibian S, which has been great. Suggestions? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:18:04 AM EDT
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I've had many .22 pistols. Ruger 22/45 lite is just a solid tack driver especially with a red dot. I'm actually thinking of picking up another one.
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:19:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -Obsessed-]
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  Attached FileGet both The Ruger is really nice, but you will want the accurizing kit or the full competition kit. My VQ is next level though. Can't go wrong with either. I prefer the MK III over the IV but I know I'm the minority. 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:25:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: arndog123]
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S&W Victory 22. Mine came with an excellent stock trigger. I had to install a Volquartsen accurizing kit in my MKIV and the S&W is still better. The Victory is an excellent suppressor host as well.
My 3 favorite suppressor hosts, 
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:29:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Buckmark - ADCO did the barrel.
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:38:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arndog123: S&W Victory 22. Mine came with an excellent stock trigger. I had to install a Volquartsen accurizing kit in my MKIV and the S&W is still better. The Victory is an excellent suppressor host as well. Agree 100%. The Victory has been more accurate and reliable than any of my Ruger variants. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:39:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DavidC: Agree 100%. The Victory has been more accurate and reliable than any of my Ruger variants. I think it's just personal preference. I couldn't shoot a Victory to save my life. My Ruger I can shoot lights out. Always a good idea to try different models if you can. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:08:40 PM EDT
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Sounds like there are only a handful of options that meet the description but some good ones none the less.
What is the appeal of the 22/45 v. the Mark VI? Weight? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:20:56 PM EDT
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The 22/45 also has the same grip angle as a 1911.
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:31:11 PM EDT
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When did Ruger come out w/ the Mk 6?
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:31:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Taurus TX22
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:47:07 PM EDT
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Ruger sr22.
Great little combo and totally quiet. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By belted_guns: Ruger sr22. Great little combo and totally quiet. If you have little girly hands.  My wife has one, and while a great little gun, there are better options for a host. Like the Ruger Standard. 
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Posted: 6/1/2021 1:22:27 PM EDT
[#13]
Taurus TX22. It comes threaded with a thread protector from the factory. I don’t have a suppressor (yet) but it’s been 100% reliable through 1000’s of rounds.
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Posted: 6/1/2021 3:48:07 PM EDT
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I’ve had good luck with a GSG 1911. Great training aide and eats everything we feed it.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2021 4:45:38 PM EDT
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Another fan of the victory in current production Guns. Iooked at buckmarks and ruger but found the victory cheaper. ( $150 less than a Mark IV lite)
My victory is nearly bullseye competition accurate is very reliable ( can still in jail hopefully soon) My true favorite threaded gun though is the very out of production S&W 422 I generally hate stainless and am an old classics kind of guy, but couldn’t bring myself to get my old classic Colt challenger threaded |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 6:29:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nate19]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: When did Ruger come out w/ the Mk 6?  22/45 Lite is what you are looking for, OP. ETA: Volquartsen accurizing kit to make it even better. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 8:12:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate19: 22/45 Lite is what you are looking for, OP. ETA: Volquartsen accurizing kit to make it even better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nate19: Originally Posted By backbencher: When did Ruger come out w/ the Mk 6? 22/45 Lite is what you are looking for, OP. ETA: Volquartsen accurizing kit to make it even better. If I was starting from scratch, I'd be really temped by the Browning Buckmark w/ interchangeable bbls, and a carbine I could share magazines w/. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 9:13:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2021 11:14:43 AM EDT
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MKIV is my go to rimfire pistol host. These see more rounds than anything else in my collection. Volquartsen Accurizing kit is a must IMO.
 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2021 4:31:48 PM EDT
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Just got this today.
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Posted: 6/3/2021 4:42:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/E094A4A8-36C1-4570-AA27-4539075A6E68_jpe-1964070.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/3/2021 4:50:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2021 5:36:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Terrato: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17391/20180604_113705-2_jpg-1965723.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Terrato: Originally Posted By triburst1: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/E094A4A8-36C1-4570-AA27-4539075A6E68_jpe-1964070.JPG Very nice. The standards feel so much better to me than the 22/45. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2021 5:37:09 PM EDT
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Browning Buckmark, if for no other reason for ease of barrel removal and replacement.
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Posted: 6/3/2021 5:39:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/4/2021 2:25:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: airgunner]
[#26]
Originally Posted By M4: Been thinking about a new .22 pistol and would prefer it's threaded for a suppressor. Outside of really expensive pistols such as Volquartzen, is there any pistol platform out there worth considering? All things considered, no not really. The MKIV (I prefer the 22/45 version) is the best all around 22 suppressor host IMO but the Buckmark is a good alternative. Biggest knock against the Buckmark is it doesn't have anywhere near the aftermarket support. Originally Posted By weptek911: Taurus TX22. It comes threaded with a thread protector from the factory. I don’t have a suppressor (yet) but it’s been 100% reliable through 1000’s of rounds. I have a TX22 and think its a cool gun, especially for the money. Love the capacity but I won't be running mine suppressed. 22's with aluminum slides don't have a great track record with items such as suppressors or comps hanging off the end of them. Lookup the Walther P22 and see all the slide failures and I've already seen one report of a TX22 with a suppressor and cracked slide. Hopefully that was just a fluke but I'm sticking with the my Ruger for suppressor duty and the TX22 for what I bought it for, a training tool. |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 10:47:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4]
[#27]
WellI got this on the way.
The 22/45 line just isn't my thing. I really like the all stainless target models and it's tapped to mount optics as well as being threaded. With the new take down of the IV's, I think I'll be happy with this.  |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/19/2021 10:57:36 PM EDT
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I love my walther ppq m2-22lr. Its gonna bang with all types of ammo.
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Posted: 6/19/2021 11:56:35 PM EDT
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Mine has been awesome although my G44 gets way more range time now.
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Posted: 6/20/2021 6:04:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: WellI got this on the way. The 22/45 line just isn't my thing. I really like the all stainless target models and it's tapped to mount optics as well as being threaded. With the new take down of the IV's, I think I'll be happy with this. https://ruger.com/productImages/40126/detail/2.jpg That’s a great looking pistol. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: WellI got this on the way. The 22/45 line just isn't my thing. I really like the all stainless target models and it's tapped to mount optics as well as being threaded. With the new take down of the IV's, I think I'll be happy with this. https://ruger.com/productImages/40126/detail/2.jpg You will like it. Consider the Volquartsen accurizing kit as well. |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 12:40:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4]
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Originally Posted By triburst1: That's a great looking pistol. I have to agree. First off, it's an extremely well built gun. When you hold it and really check it out, it looks like it will last well beyond my lifetime. Solid stainless across the board means it has weight to it, but it's truly beautifully made. The 4th Gen of the Mark series is without question the best of them. The take down being way up there, but beyond that, it's a beautiful pistol and I don't use adjectives like that for guns very often. My one gripe is the all black front sight that gets lost on dark targets. I'll be swapping that out for something more functional, but that's minor stuff. Originally Posted By bisonbisonbison: You will like it. Consider the Volquartsen accurizing kit as well. I don't know much about Volquartsen's options but I know their reputation. I'll check it out. As an aside, I learned that way back when Ruger first introduced the Mark series, it was born from the inspiration of WWII bring backs of the German Luger and the Japanese Nambu pistols. That design heritage is very evident too and better than both by a long shot. Kind of interesting. |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 1:16:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: My one gripe is the all black front sight that gets lost on dark targets. I'll be swapping that out for something more functional, but that's minor stuff. May I suggest an MRDS?  Attached FileIf you want to stick with irons, tacsol makes a fiber optic front sight. |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 2:35:31 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: May I suggest an MRDS? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/6625504A-3BD8-40FD-9D97-62EFB526D83A_jpe-1990871.JPG If you want to stick with irons, tacsol makes a fiber optic front sight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Originally Posted By M4: My one gripe is the all black front sight that gets lost on dark targets. I'll be swapping that out for something more functional, but that's minor stuff. May I suggest an MRDS? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/6625504A-3BD8-40FD-9D97-62EFB526D83A_jpe-1990871.JPG If you want to stick with irons, tacsol makes a fiber optic front sight. Thats very slick. What mount is that? |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 2:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: Thats very slick. What mount is that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: Originally Posted By triburst1: Originally Posted By M4: My one gripe is the all black front sight that gets lost on dark targets. I'll be swapping that out for something more functional, but that's minor stuff. May I suggest an MRDS? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/6625504A-3BD8-40FD-9D97-62EFB526D83A_jpe-1990871.JPG If you want to stick with irons, tacsol makes a fiber optic front sight. Thats very slick. What mount is that? Maddmacs center base 2.0 |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 3:18:59 PM EDT
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I bought a 22/45 Lite. I prefer the conventional grip angle.
The MKIV is an excellent choice too. I wanted one for plinking. I shot one suppressed. Then I bought one 2 days later. Volquartzen trigger guts with a Tandem Kross trigger shoe added. Mounted a Vortex Venom. Also added a TK brake as well until my TBAC takedown arrives. They are ridiculously fun to shoot. Hits are automatic (get the MRDS...you really need to). |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 5:42:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: I have to agree. First off, it's an extremely well built gun. When you hold it and really check it out, it looks like it will last well beyond my lifetime. Solid stainless across the board means it has weight to it, but it's truly beautifully made. The 4th Gen of the Mark series is without question the best of them. The take down being way up there, but beyond that, it's a beautiful pistol and I don't use adjectives like that for guns very often. My one gripe is the all black front sight that gets lost on dark targets. I'll be swapping that out for something more functional, but that's minor stuff. I don't know much about Volquartsen's options but I know their reputation. I'll check it out. As an aside, I learned that way back when Ruger first introduced the Mark series, it was born from the inspiration of WWII bring backs of the German Luger and the Japanese Nambu pistols. That design heritage is very evident too and better than both by a long shot. Kind of interesting. Excuse me, are you trying to claim that a blowback .22 LR pistol is a better gun than a 9x19mm short-recoil toggle locked Luger? Seriously? |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 8:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Excuse me, are you trying to claim that a blowback .22 LR pistol is a better gun than a 9x19mm short-recoil toggle locked Luger? Seriously? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By M4: I have to agree. First off, it's an extremely well built gun. When you hold it and really check it out, it looks like it will last well beyond my lifetime. Solid stainless across the board means it has weight to it, but it's truly beautifully made. The 4th Gen of the Mark series is without question the best of them. The take down being way up there, but beyond that, it's a beautiful pistol and I don't use adjectives like that for guns very often. My one gripe is the all black front sight that gets lost on dark targets. I'll be swapping that out for something more functional, but that's minor stuff. I don't know much about Volquartsen's options but I know their reputation. I'll check it out. As an aside, I learned that way back when Ruger first introduced the Mark series, it was born from the inspiration of WWII bring backs of the German Luger and the Japanese Nambu pistols. That design heritage is very evident too and better than both by a long shot. Kind of interesting. Excuse me, are you trying to claim that a blowback .22 LR pistol is a better gun than a 9x19mm short-recoil toggle locked Luger? Seriously? How is it not? The Ruger is an enduring design that’s been updated but still the standard for .22 pistols over 70 years later. How long was the Luger viable? The Luger is overly complex, unreliable and has a terrible trigger. It was quickly eclipsed by it’s contemporaries and was replaced in short order. |
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Posted: 6/25/2021 10:24:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: How is it not? The Ruger is an enduring design that’s been updated but still the standard for .22 pistols over 70 years later. How long was the Luger viable? The Luger is overly complex, unreliable and has a terrible trigger. It was quickly eclipsed by it’s contemporaries and was replaced in short order. Unreliable? Lugers are still shooting today, more than a century after they were produced. At it's introduction, it was no more complex than it's forebear and much more compact, was in production for nearly half a century and was a primary pistol in two world wars. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2021 11:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Unreliable? Lugers are still shooting today, more than a century after they were produced. At it's introduction, it was no more complex than it's forebear and much more compact, was in production for nearly half a century and was a primary pistol in two world wars. I’m going to have to agree with this. You can’t compare a unique and historical design like the Luger to a .22 blowback anything. Doesn’t mean that the .22 isn’t high quality though. |
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Posted: 6/26/2021 4:38:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SubSonic1836: I'm going to have to agree with this. You can't compare a unique and historical design like the Luger to a .22 blowback anything. Doesn't mean that the .22 isn't high quality though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SubSonic1836: Originally Posted By backbencher: Unreliable? Lugers are still shooting today, more than a century after they were produced. At it's introduction, it was no more complex than it's forebear and much more compact, was in production for nearly half a century and was a primary pistol in two world wars. I'm going to have to agree with this. You can't compare a unique and historical design like the Luger to a .22 blowback anything. Doesn't mean that the .22 isn't high quality though. The comparison was made because the Ruger Mark series was born from adopting and improving on both the Nambu and Luger after WWII. There's a direct and specific connection to both. |
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Posted: 6/26/2021 8:18:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: The comparison was made because the Ruger Mark series was born from adopting and improving on both the Nambu and Luger after WWII. There's a direct and specific connection to both. Dude, it didn't improve on the Luger. Ruger copied the grip angle and overall look to make a cheap .22 target pistol. You can't really compare a civilian .22 target pistol w/ a military 9mm combat pistol that was adopted by militaries around the world in its day. |
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Posted: 6/26/2021 10:12:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: M4]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Dude, it didn't improve on the Luger. Ruger copied the grip angle and overall look to make a cheap .22 target pistol. You can't really compare a civilian .22 target pistol w/ a military 9mm combat pistol that was adopted by militaries around the world in its day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By M4: The comparison was made because the Ruger Mark series was born from adopting and improving on both the Nambu and Luger after WWII. There's a direct and specific connection to both. Dude, it didn't improve on the Luger. Ruger copied the grip angle and overall look to make a cheap .22 target pistol. You can't really compare a civilian .22 target pistol w/ a military 9mm combat pistol that was adopted by militaries around the world in its day. Lugers are historic. Many were made beautifully. There's a big collectors market. That doesn't mean the engineering "marvel" that Lugers were holds up to today's standards. The best evidence for this is probably the fact that they don't make them anymore beyond the collectors market, because far better, more reliable, much more functional guns exist for real world use. You don't need to look beyond the P-38 that replaced it. And they didn't replace Lugers strictly because Lugers were expensive to make. It's a better design and still in production. Kind of the way Hi Powers have stood the test of time due to the excellence of their design but even more so. And once again, the only reason Lugers were brought up is because they, along with the Nambu possessed design features adopted by the Ruger Mark Series. And as far as pistol design goes, particularly the Mark IV's, they're also better weapons than Lugers ever were. |
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Posted: 6/26/2021 12:23:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4: Lugers are historic. Many were made beautifully. There's a big collectors market. That doesn't mean the engineering "marvel" that Lugers were holds up to today's standards. The best evidence for this is probably the fact that they don't make them anymore beyond the collectors market, because far better, more reliable, much more functional guns exist for real world use. You don't need to look beyond the P-38 that replaced it. And they didn't replace Lugers strictly because Lugers were expensive to make. It's a better design and still in production. Kind of the way Hi Powers have stood the test of time due to the excellence of their design but even more so. And once again, the only reason Lugers were brought up is because they, along with the Nambu possessed design features adopted by the Ruger Mark Series. And as far as pistol design goes, particularly the Mark IV's, they're also better weapons than Lugers ever were. Lol. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2021 9:13:11 PM EDT
[#45]
 Maddmacs XBAR |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 12:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/467079/20200926_111029_IMG_0329_JPG-1963006.JPG Get both The Ruger is really nice, but you will want the accurizing kit or the full competition kit. My VQ is next level though. Can't go wrong with either. I prefer the MK III over the IV but I know I'm the minority. Attached FileThat is a gorgeous Volquartsen Scorpion. As for the preference of pre MKIV MK's. Thats what people who don't have an MKIV say. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2021 2:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Dude, it didn't improve on the Luger. Ruger copied the grip angle and overall look to make a cheap .22 target pistol. You can't really compare a civilian .22 target pistol w/ a military 9mm combat pistol that was adopted by militaries around the world in its day. As fun a read as Nick Carter was when i was a teen,lugers are range toys and objects we art for white glove wearing collectors who have more money than they can spend. That being said id love to own shooter grade copies of a navy Lugar and a red 9 broomhandle. I wouldn't even mind tailoring the 124gr fmj rounds to make them run perfectly. But my g19 stays at 3pm on my hip and my g34 by the bed and range toys in the vault |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2021 2:09:53 PM EDT
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Alas ive gone beyond the event horizon of the contender black hole. One of my 2 current barrels is a 22lr that will be cut to 4.5inch threaded and crowned. With the sparrow it should be very polite.
Much more involved will be the custom match grade machine 8inch threaded in 22hornet. Think 70 grain bullets at 1050fps and i think full power will be hearing safe,,,,,maybe. Stuff to do |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 2:18:33 PM EDT
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I think I’m in fair company here.
If the gun required HV ammo to function, I ain’t interested. Sig Mosquito. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 3:21:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DavidC]
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