User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 10:38:30 AM EDT
[#1]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 11:11:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryI'm aware of STIs discontinued models, was hoping for something currently available. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 12:09:34 PM EDT
[#3]
HK USP 9mm tac if you can't find a 2011.
USP was designed after the 1911 so the controls will be familiar. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 12:17:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: HK USP 9mm tac if you can't find a 2011. USP was designed after the 1911 so the controls will be familiar. I've owned them in the past. Good guns but not for me, I purged them when I got out of polymer framed guns. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 12:28:49 PM EDT
[#5]
 Attached FileThis is a Nighthawk example. But most custom/semi custom shops have a version of a 2011 or 2019 (what Chambers calls it). |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 6:55:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318644/FD2E298A-E94F-44FD-938F-1FF3E4287A26_jpe-1727395.JPG This is a Nighthawk example. But most custom/semi custom shops have a version of a 2011 or 2019 (what Chambers calls it). I figured as much but those aren't for me either. I've seen way too many threads with people having issues with 4k to 5k customs/semi customs. STI and DW are as high as I go. Hell, I'd sooner get an RIA. If a 900 dollar gun doesn't run out of the box, meh ill get it figured out. If a 4500 gun didn't I'd go fucking nuclear. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 8:01:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Hayes custom works magic with RIA guns.
You still will be over 2k after they’re done. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/12/2020 8:03:06 PM EDT
[#8]
How about a DW Fury? They were discontinued in 2019, but odds are you can find one.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2020 6:15:10 PM EDT
[#9]
www.tacticalsteelcustom.com can build you one.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 12:05:35 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I figured as much but those aren't for me either. I've seen way too many threads with people having issues with 4k to 5k customs/semi customs. STI and DW are as high as I go. Hell, I'd sooner get an RIA. If a 900 dollar gun doesn't run out of the box, meh ill get it figured out. If a 4500 gun didn't I'd go fucking nuclear. If you had a custom gun built and it didn't work, any decent builder would fix it. But I get your sentiment, I can't see myself spending the money on a custom 2011, and I've shot many since I do USPSA. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 12:41:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Word I heard recently was Stacatto will have some threaded models in 2021.
Who knows if it actually happens but its a logical option for them to offer. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 12:59:34 AM EDT
[#12]
They don’t exist currently because there isn’t a huge demand. I have a couple of the STI’s only one of which has the tall sights. Neither was new and neither runs 100%.
The easiest way to get what you want is to buy a base gun and do sights and barrel. Honestly I’d probably go CZ or Sig if I were starting over. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 1:00:42 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted: Word I heard recently was Stacatto will have some threaded models in 2021. Who knows if it actually happens but its a logical option for them to offer. What seems silly to me is not being able to special order them that way. It’s not like a threaded barrel is any harder to fit. Makes me wonder if they are just a lot more problematic. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 1:03:51 AM EDT
[#14]
The STI/Staccato lineup changes seemingly every 6 months, so if you don’t see what you want, just wait... but don’t wait too long.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 1:07:10 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t exist currently because there isn’t a huge demand. I have a couple of the STI’s only one of which has the tall sights. Neither was new and neither runs 100%. The easiest way to get what you want is to buy a base gun and do sights and barrel. Honestly I’d probably go CZ or Sig if I were starting over. I've wanted to set up a CZ as a host but the road block has been the sights. I found a set of tall sights on the CZC site that say they were for the P07 or S1 but when I emailed about them they don't have them anymore. I have a spare S1 and S2 to use but no sights exist that I know of. I'd rather do a S1 though since CZ USA sells the S1/SP-01 threaded barrel and it is in stock. It is 1:10 but I'd have to use CZC for a S2 threaded barrel which are all 1:16. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 1:09:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The STI/Staccato lineup changes seemingly every 6 months, so if you don’t see what you want, just wait... but don’t wait too long. I did just buy a P and C2 (C2 will go the wife) to see if they live up to the current hype. I am surprised with their new direction they don't have a factory option for a suppressor gun. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 12:09:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Have you shot a gun with short sights and a can? I’m definitely of the mindset that tall sights are not a necessity and just sight through the can. An offset can can also make a difference.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/14/2020 12:40:03 PM EDT
[#18]
Yes. I already tried that with a CZ and hated it.
At 10 to 15 yards, sure. But beyond that is a pain. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/29/2020 10:27:22 AM EDT
[#19]
A 2011 in 9mm, with threaded barrel and functional iron sights will be tough for find.
Best bet would be to find an open gun in 9 and add the sights to it or get a 9mm that was used for 3-gun and add a threaded barrel. Either route you're going to have to pay for custom work to be done. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/29/2020 1:43:17 PM EDT
[#20]
This is what you seek sans thread and sights - but if you ping them and ask they should be able to swap out barrel and sights.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 1/4/2021 11:09:08 PM EDT
[#21]
I was in the same position.
I really like 9mm 1911s as they are really soft and accurate shooters, and really like them as suppressor hosts. To that end I bought a Dan Wesson Wraith in 9MM a couple years back as a single stack suppressor host. However, I always wanted that Dan Wesson to have "modern" capacity of >15rds. To scratch that high capacity itch I bought a Remington "para pattern" double stack 1911 in 45ACP, with a factory threaded barrel and suppressor sights as a complement to my Sig Tac Ops, which was my 45acp single stack suppressor host. I had good success with the Remington 1911 double-stack 45acp and wished that Remington would make a double-stack 1911 in 9mm with a threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Remington didn't appear to make many double stack 1911s in 9mm before the whole DS line as discontinued and to the best of my knowledge there was never a 9mm threaded barrel option either. I ended up finding a Remington 1911 double-stack Recon in 9mm, bought a threaded Fusion barrel (para ramped, 9MM, commander length), hand fitted the threaded Fusion barrel to the gun, then sent the barrel out to Primary Machine for nitriding, and added high suppressor tritium sights. On the left is the final Remington 9MM double-stack with Fusion barrel suppressor host build along with the Remington factory full size 1911 double-stack suppressor host in 45ACP on the right for comparison.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/5/2021 12:49:36 AM EDT
[#22]
I didn't think Remington got many of those out the door before they closed.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 1/5/2021 1:21:26 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't think Remington got many of those out the door before they closed. There were a pretty decent number of 45s that came out. There was a period of time on Gunbroker for maybe 18 months or so where there were plenty of 45s, especially the threaded barrel version for sale. I had no problems finding the 45 I bought and still see them on Gunbroker but they command a lot more money now that they once did. The 9's were more rare and would pop up only occasionally and now that Remington is closed I have not seen one for sale in a couple months, but they are out here on the auction sites here and there. The Tomasie 40S&W version I have never saw one for sale in the probably 2 years I had a recurring search on Gunbroker for "remington 1911 double stack". If they even made any of these they were really rare. Its too bad as the Remington 1911s were a pretty good gun for the money. I have a couple friends with the standard single stack guns and they run just fine. The double stack guns were a bargain at ~$1200 compared to the Stacatto, Infinity, Nighthawk 2011 pattern double stack guns that run many multiples the cost. I really enjoy both of mine and if you want a cheaper 1911 double stack 9mm, the hardest part will be finding the base Remington 9mm DS gun. The rest of the parts are easily available aftermarket as the Remington double stack slides take standard 1911 sights, 9mm bushings, and 9mm para ramped barrels. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/5/2021 2:15:33 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: There were a pretty decent number of 45s that came out. There was a period of time on Gunbroker for maybe 18 months or so where there were plenty of 45s, especially the threaded barrel version for sale. I had no problems finding the 45 I bought and still see them on Gunbroker but they command a lot more money now that they once did. The 9's were more rare and would pop up only occasionally and now that Remington is closed I have not seen one for sale in a couple months, but they are out here on the auction sites here and there. The Tomasie 40S&W version I have never saw one for sale in the probably 2 years I had a recurring search on Gunbroker for "remington 1911 double stack". If they even made any of these they were really rare. Its too bad as the Remington 1911s were a pretty good gun for the money. I have a couple friends with the standard single stack guns and they run just fine. The double stack guns were a bargain at ~$1200 compared to the Stacatto, Infinity, Nighthawk 2011 pattern double stack guns that run many multiples the cost. I really enjoy both of mine and if you want a cheaper 1911 double stack 9mm, the hardest part will be finding the base Remington 9mm DS gun. The rest of the parts are easily available aftermarket as the Remington double stack slides take standard 1911 sights, 9mm bushings, and 9mm para ramped barrels. Para has had a wild ride for sure. I was really hoping Remington would turn it into something awesome but I guess they had too much else going on. I’m sure we’ll see them back in one form or another as they are Lazarus. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/5/2021 12:06:45 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There were a pretty decent number of 45s that came out. There was a period of time on Gunbroker for maybe 18 months or so where there were plenty of 45s, especially the threaded barrel version for sale. I had no problems finding the 45 I bought and still see them on Gunbroker but they command a lot more money now that they once did. The 9's were more rare and would pop up only occasionally and now that Remington is closed I have not seen one for sale in a couple months, but they are out here on the auction sites here and there. The Tomasie 40S&W version I have never saw one for sale in the probably 2 years I had a recurring search on Gunbroker for "remington 1911 double stack". If they even made any of these they were really rare. Its too bad as the Remington 1911s were a pretty good gun for the money. I have a couple friends with the standard single stack guns and they run just fine. The double stack guns were a bargain at ~$1200 compared to the Stacatto, Infinity, Nighthawk 2011 pattern double stack guns that run many multiples the cost. I really enjoy both of mine and if you want a cheaper 1911 double stack 9mm, the hardest part will be finding the base Remington 9mm DS gun. The rest of the parts are easily available aftermarket as the Remington double stack slides take standard 1911 sights, 9mm bushings, and 9mm para ramped barrels. I must have been looking at the wrong time then. I saw a fluff piece on the .45 one in a gun rag and thought finally, a 14+1 all metal .45. At that point I still had 5k .45 ACP, a Ghost-M and no .45 pistol. I knew 2 guys with R1s that were pretty sloppy but I was willing to fix and upgrade if necessary. However I never found a single one on GB for about 6 or 7 months. I ended up just getting out of .45. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/6/2021 8:46:33 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about a DW Fury? They were discontinued in 2019, but odds are you can find one. Money no object I would buy one of those in a heartbeat! |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/6/2021 12:52:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Money no object I would buy one of those in a heartbeat! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about a DW Fury? They were discontinued in 2019, but odds are you can find one. Money no object I would buy one of those in a heartbeat! The Fury looks as if it's built on the Caspian doublestack frame, so be aware of that.... different mag design than either 2011 or Para. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/6/2021 2:19:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Fury looks as if it's built on the Caspian doublestack frame, so be aware of that.... different mag design than either 2011 or Para. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about a DW Fury? They were discontinued in 2019, but odds are you can find one. Money no object I would buy one of those in a heartbeat! The Fury looks as if it's built on the Caspian doublestack frame, so be aware of that.... different mag design than either 2011 or Para. At this point I’d just hold out for their new double stack gun. DWX I think it’s called. Looks pretty promising but COVID really messed up the release. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/6/2021 2:28:49 PM EDT
[#29]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 9:55:11 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Fury looks as if it's built on the Caspian doublestack frame, so be aware of that.... different mag design than either 2011 or Para. Not that is matters as it's way out of my price range but out of curiosity (as I don't know much about 2011 type frames), is mag compatibility the only difference between Caspian and 2011/Para frames? How do you visually tell them apart? Are those the only 3 options for a 2011 type frame? |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 11:44:29 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At this point I’d just hold out for their new double stack gun. DWX I think it’s called. Looks pretty promising but COVID really messed up the release. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about a DW Fury? They were discontinued in 2019, but odds are you can find one. Money no object I would buy one of those in a heartbeat! The Fury looks as if it's built on the Caspian doublestack frame, so be aware of that.... different mag design than either 2011 or Para. At this point I’d just hold out for their new double stack gun. DWX I think it’s called. Looks pretty promising but COVID really messed up the release. Isn't the DWX an expensive CZ ? |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 11:52:08 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: Isn't the DWX an expensive CZ ? It’s a Dan Wesson which is owned by CZ. The prices I’ve seen are less than comparable STI guns but they’re not out yet. They also use established CZ mags so that’s good. I think it’s going to be a killer in the market. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 11:59:59 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a Dan Wesson which is owned by CZ. The prices I’ve seen are less than comparable STI guns but they’re not out yet. They also use established CZ mags so that’s good. I think it’s going to be a killer in the market. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Isn't the DWX an expensive CZ ? It’s a Dan Wesson which is owned by CZ. The prices I’ve seen are less than comparable STI guns but they’re not out yet. They also use established CZ mags so that’s good. I think it’s going to be a killer in the market. Wouldn't this be like Ferrari buying Fiat? I'm not a hater (I own a Kimber so [insert hiding meme]) but I genuinely want to know if CZ will now be worth DW money? |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 12:56:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't this be like Ferrari buying Fiat? I'm not a hater (I own a Kimber so [insert hiding meme]) but I genuinely want to know if CZ will now be worth DW money? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't the DWX an expensive CZ ? It’s a Dan Wesson which is owned by CZ. The prices I’ve seen are less than comparable STI guns but they’re not out yet. They also use established CZ mags so that’s good. I think it’s going to be a killer in the market. Wouldn't this be like Ferrari buying Fiat? I'm not a hater (I own a Kimber so [insert hiding meme]) but I genuinely want to know if CZ will now be worth DW money? They’ve been together for 15 years. This is nothing new. All the Dan Wesson quality 1911’s people have been raving about are the newer guns under CZ 9/10 times. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 1:18:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ve been together for 15 years. This is nothing new. All the Dan Wesson quality 1911’s people have been raving about are the newer guns under CZ 9/10 times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't the DWX an expensive CZ ? It’s a Dan Wesson which is owned by CZ. The prices I’ve seen are less than comparable STI guns but they’re not out yet. They also use established CZ mags so that’s good. I think it’s going to be a killer in the market. Wouldn't this be like Ferrari buying Fiat? I'm not a hater (I own a Kimber so [insert hiding meme]) but I genuinely want to know if CZ will now be worth DW money? They’ve been together for 15 years. This is nothing new. All the Dan Wesson quality 1911’s people have been raving about are the newer guns under CZ 9/10 times. HOLE E FK ... I did not know this. Thanks for the info. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 1:21:58 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't this be like Ferrari buying Fiat? I'm not a hater (I own a Kimber so [insert hiding meme]) but I genuinely want to know if CZ will now be worth DW money? It is pretty hands off though, DW makes everything in house in NY. CZ-USA distributes their products. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 1:24:17 PM EDT
[#37]
For the price, my RIA is not too shabby. Did a little polish work on moving parts and tightened up the trigger area to fix all the low buck stuff.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 1:40:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I figured as much but those aren't for me either. I've seen way too many threads with people having issues with 4k to 5k customs/semi customs. STI and DW are as high as I go. Hell, I'd sooner get an RIA. If a 900 dollar gun doesn't run out of the box, meh ill get it figured out. If a 4500 gun didn't I'd go fucking nuclear. Get the STI you want (Staccato P would be my recommendation) and have a smith fit the barrel. |
|
|
|
Posted: 1/7/2021 4:23:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not that is matters as it's way out of my price range but out of curiosity (as I don't know much about 2011 type frames), is mag compatibility the only difference between Caspian and 2011/Para frames? How do you visually tell them apart? Are those the only 3 options for a 2011 type frame? I have never had a Caspian frame but it wouldn't surprise me if the magazine catch and trigger were different, as well as the magazines. You can usually tell them apart visually by looking at how the wide portion of the grip blends into the narrow portion. The Caspian has a rounded look and the grips are very thin and sometimes nothing more than grip tape. The Para is noticeably fat where the magazine fits, and narrows visibly in the front and back. The 2011 is always a two-piece grip and frame combo and there is a step down on the frame portion in both front and back. The grip is pretty rounded for the most part.  Attached File Attached File Attached FileThose are the big 3 designs. In sheer numbers of doublestack frames out there, I'd say 75% are Para or Para clones, 22% are 2011s, and 3% are Caspian or one of the other designs. The Wilson EDC X9 and KZ-45, Kimber/BUL, and a few others are out there as well. Magazines do not interchange. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 3:51:56 PM EDT
[#40]
Ended up going the STI/Staccato route. As soon as they added the option last month I ordered a P DPO with threaded barrel.
The sights should be tall enough. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 4:18:37 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For the price, my RIA is not too shabby. Did a little polish work on moving parts and tightened up the trigger area to fix all the low buck stuff. I just got my RIA 9mm TAC ULTRA FS HC back from having a threaded extension installed on the barrel and my suppressor recored by ECCO Machine and so far I'm pretty happy. Still debating on how I want to install my Holosun 507c. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 4:39:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Staccato has threaded barrel options now. You can order one from their website and have it delivered to the FFL of your choice.
I’m currently lusting after a Staccato P DPO Tuxedo Threaded barrel model myself |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 5:11:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Staccato has threaded barrel options now. You can order one from their website and have it delivered to the FFL of your choice. I’m currently lusting after a Staccato P DPO Tuxedo Threaded barrel model myself That's exactly what I did, look 2 posts up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 5:37:13 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's exactly what I did, look 2 posts up. Ain’t nobody got time to read that.  |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 10:28:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ended up going the STI/Staccato route. As soon as they added the option last month I ordered a P DPO with threaded barrel. The sights should be tall enough. Congrats. Pls post pics |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/7/2021 10:42:05 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Congrats. Pls post pics My other orders were always quoted only 6-8 weeks or so out and came in around there or faster. This time the ETA was WEEELLLL out, 5/10. I may not have it for months yet. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/16/2021 9:15:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My other orders were always quoted only 6-8 weeks or so out and came in around there or faster. This time the ETA was WEEELLLL out, 5/10. I may not have it for months yet. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/19/2021 4:23:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Directly through staccato? I just picked up my second one with the threaded barrel and rmr sights. Yes |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/6/2021 2:20:19 PM EDT
[#49]
 Forgot I started this thread. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/6/2021 4:16:58 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/453175/With_Suppressor-1897035.jpg Forgot I started this thread. just wow, man |
|
|
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
