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Posted: 2/28/2006 7:48:06 AM EDT
i was in the gun shop the other day just looking at new and used handguns Saturday afternoon looking for something different or good deal.  As i started looking at the new guin counter i wanted to see what CZ had to offer these days since i was looking to buy a CZ PO1 compact one day but something else grabbed the eye ball.  

The gun looked like a CZ P01 but the slide and frame was bigger and more impressive.    The dealer pulled the pistol from the cabnet and displayed the latest CZ design release, marked as the SP01.  Basically a full size version of the P01 with ambidex maual safety simular to the earier 75/85-B models with tritium night sights, lanyard ring, checkered frame cutts, and a 18rd. standard mag. CZ states the gun has been issued to Military and anti terrorists units.

I was highly impressed and the gun went into layaway for sure.......
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:13:18 PM EDT
[#1]
I had bought my CZ75B just before they announced the introduction of the SP01.

After they introduced it, I was FURIOUS, because the SP01 is EXACTLY what I was looking for in a 9mm handgun.
light rail - check
1911-type safety - check
tritium sights - check
full sized - check
perfectly sized grip (for my hands) - check
and it even mounts a bayonet

so Elf, what price was the shop asking?
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:29:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Isn't that always the way: like clockwork, as soon as I purchased my P-01 the SP-01s are announced.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:06:16 PM EDT
[#3]

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so Elf, what price was the shop asking?



one of the stores near me is selling the p-01 and the full size cz75b for $450 each.  so i would guess that the sp-01 when they get it in stock will be about the same or maybe just a little higher.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 12:57:43 AM EDT
[#4]
The ones I have seen have been $500ish. Still worth it to me especialy the one with manual saftey.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 2:12:10 AM EDT
[#5]
I paid 479.00 plus Washington State sales tax at 8.8 percent.  I just compaired the price of 440.00 of the older 75B to the new SP01 and it was a deal in deed.  CZ ROCKS.!!!  
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:23:12 AM EDT
[#6]
I paid $459 for my first SP-01 Tactical (decocker) and $525 for my 2nd SP-01 manual safety.  Both have been amazing, but I now only have the manual safety SP-01.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 11:36:30 AM EDT
[#7]
The only thing I don't like about the SP01 is that it isn't legal for IDPA competition but I'll probably get one anyway.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 3:45:47 AM EDT
[#8]

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The only thing I don't like about the SP01 is that it isn't legal for IDPA competition but I'll probably get one anyway.



being a stranger to the idpa and other competitions i don't see why it wouldn't be legal.  please explain.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 4:00:14 AM EDT
[#9]

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The only thing I don't like about the SP01 is that it isn't legal for IDPA competition but I'll probably get one anyway.



being a stranger to the idpa and other competitions i don't see why it wouldn't be legal.  please explain.



I think it's too heavy for SSP (stock service pistols) division which has 39oz weight limit, a shooter using a SP01 may be able to shoot ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) which has a maximum weight limit of 43oz.  

SSP is where most Glock, SIG and Beretta shooters compete.  ESP still has some Glock and other shooters but single action is allowed in ESP (XDs are SA).
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:29:28 AM EDT
[#10]

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The only thing I don't like about the SP01 is that it isn't legal for IDPA competition but I'll probably get one anyway.



being a stranger to the idpa and other competitions i don't see why it wouldn't be legal.  please explain.



I think it's too heavy for SSP (stock service pistols) division which has 39oz weight limit, a shooter using a SP01 may be able to shoot ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) which has a maximum weight limit of 43oz.  

SSP is where most Glock, SIG and Beretta shooters compete.  ESP still has some Glock and other shooters but single action is allowed in ESP (XDs are SA).



ok i see the idea behind the stock service pistol but why the weight limit?  if a "base model" pistol is made by a company and is over the weight then that seems a bit unfair.  but i guess they got it all figured out for a reason.  
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:24:33 AM EDT
[#11]

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ok i see the idea behind the stock service pistol but why the weight limit?  if a "base model" pistol is made by a company and is over the weight then that seems a bit unfair.  but i guess they got it all figured out for a reason.  



Bill Wilsons game and rules.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 11:56:29 AM EDT
[#12]
Guys this gun shoots as well as I expected. I have had mine for about 6 months.

How good?

Over the weekend I shot it at a 110 shooter USPSA match in Fredericksberg, VA (results for members on www.uspsa.com Fredericksberg VA, March Match). The only people who shot better than my SP-01 were Julie Goloski's boyfriend, Simon and some Grand Master Limited shooter who decided to shoot Production - the gun is THAT good!  This match also featured the two famous IDPA champions, Phil Strader and Todd Jarret (though they were competing in Limited, NOT production. It was a tough match with some long shots but the SP-01 easily held its own. GotM4 was there too (but shooting in Limited Division) & I know that he can attest to the fact that the match was not easy; 130 rounds plus of running & shooting. THe CZ never missed a beat!

I have also used the SP-01 to shoot 2 classifiers; one in the 75% range last weekend and another in the 77% range at York pa; my number is TY-44934. I am telling you, its the gun; it really is that good.

Regards,

CBR

PS - my gun is set up similar to SP-01 Shadow - but without the "fiber optic" sight. I do not like FO sights on a handgun, though they are OK on 3gunshotgun.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 8:22:52 AM EDT
[#13]

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I had bought my CZ75B just before they announced the introduction of the SP01.

After they introduced it, I was FURIOUS, because the SP01 is EXACTLY what I was looking for in a 9mm handgun.
light rail - check
1911-type safety - check
tritium sights - check
full sized - check
perfectly sized grip (for my hands) - check
and it even mounts a bayonet

so Elf, what price was the shop asking?



I dont think you should be furious,  75b's are gorgeous.  Get em both.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 11:10:01 AM EDT
[#14]

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The only thing I don't like about the SP01 is that it isn't legal for IDPA competition but I'll probably get one anyway.



being a stranger to the idpa and other competitions i don't see why it wouldn't be legal.  please explain.



I think it's too heavy for SSP (stock service pistols) division which has 39oz weight limit, a shooter using a SP01 may be able to shoot ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) which has a maximum weight limit of 43oz.  

SSP is where most Glock, SIG and Beretta shooters compete.  ESP still has some Glock and other shooters but single action is allowed in ESP (XDs are SA).



ok i see the idea behind the stock service pistol but why the weight limit?  if a "base model" pistol is made by a company and is over the weight then that seems a bit unfair.  but i guess they got it all figured out for a reason.  





Its called politics.  However they have to draw the line somewhere or it will be another IPSC which they are trying to avoid.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 5:50:55 AM EDT
[#15]
IDPA legal or not, I absolutely love mine.





Link Posted: 3/19/2006 4:06:40 PM EDT
[#16]
I have a duo-tone 75B, a P-01 and a RAMI, all chambered in 9mm.  Just my personal opinion, but I strongly prefer the alloy framed CZs.  In fact, if the 75B was available with an alloy frame, I would buy it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Catbird1/CZ75B-P01.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Catbird1/CZP01-Pics002.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Catbird1/RAMI-Pic1.jpg
Link Posted: 4/1/2006 5:44:30 PM EDT
[#17]
I just added a SP-01 to my collection.  As soon as I get around 1,000 rounds through it, it will replace a Ruger P345PR as my nightstand gun.  Tomorrow I plan on putting about 200 rounds through it just to start with.

--
Mike
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:37:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Anybody have a source for more SP01 magazines -- the 18 round ones?

Thanks!
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 12:12:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Hey Glock24,

Who did the work on your SP-01?  
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:03:59 PM EDT
[#20]
yeah, Interesting mods... how do you like the single action trigger?
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 11:56:07 PM EDT
[#21]
I love mine. I had Angus Hobdell trick her up and smooth her out. Im going to carry her all the time when my holster gets here.

Link Posted: 4/27/2006 6:21:13 AM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 4/27/2006 6:55:14 AM EDT
[#23]

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IDPA legal or not, I absolutely love mine.



I love your gun to.  
Link Posted: 4/30/2006 7:35:09 PM EDT
[#24]

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IDPA legal or not, I absolutely love mine.

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/flexiblehorse12/SP01_5.jpg

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/flexiblehorse12/SP01_7.jpg

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/flexiblehorse12/SP01_4.jpg



Glock24, what sights/Single Action trigger did you use on your SP-01?  Are they LPA or CZ Competition sights and is your trigger the metal or plastic CZ SA trigger?  Do you regret converting to Single Action at all?  I've been thinking of converted my SP-01 to SA because I love the feel of the straight trigger over the cuvered trigger.  Thanks for any help.
Link Posted: 5/14/2006 3:27:58 PM EDT
[#25]

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IDPA legal or not, I absolutely love mine.

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/flexiblehorse12/SP01_5.jpg

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/flexiblehorse12/SP01_7.jpg

i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/flexiblehorse12/SP01_4.jpg



Glock24, what sights/Single Action trigger did you use on your SP-01?  Are they LPA or CZ Competition sights and is your trigger the metal or plastic CZ SA trigger?  Do you regret converting to Single Action at all?  I've been thinking of converted my SP-01 to SA because I love the feel of the straight trigger over the cuvered trigger.  Thanks for any help.



Hey guys, sorry for the long delay.  I didn't think many folks visited this thread.

To answer your questions, my SP01 was modified by yours truely.  The front sight is stock, and the rear sight is an Angus competition rear, milled down to match the front sight.  0.043" off the top to be exact.  Jim Miossi did the milling.

The trigger is aluminum and it was purchased several years ago through CZ-USA.  I called for more, but they don't make that one any more.  Too bad, because it moved the length of pull back about 0.250".  I wouldn't hesitate to put the Angus or CZ steel SA trigger in my next one however.

I don't regret the SA conversion at all.  I'm a 1911 guy, but my SA SP-01 is growing on me.  With the addition of the Rosewood Hogue grips, it feels almost as thin as a single stack 1911.

BTW, an Uncle Mike's Glock 21 holster fits my SP-01 perfectly.  For $15, you can't go wrong



More porn;  












Link Posted: 5/18/2006 2:56:46 PM EDT
[#26]
AHHH!! your killing me smalls....

Ok Im in a bind. Im finally ready to buy my next pistol after years of sitting around with my Beretta 92FS. I loved my beretta for a long time but i just out grew it I guess. It no longer feels comfortable in my hand though I loved the trigger.

I'm looking at the SP01, the 75 B SA, and the XD45acp but have no where around me to test fire them. Topgun in houston doesnt have any of these models. Those who have shot a beretta 92, how does the CZs triggers compare? And I know this isnt the Springfield forum but have any shot the XD as well? I dont like spending $$$$ on gunsmithing and i dont trust myself to do it either (especially the trigger) so Im looking for a stock gun that will remain so yet be well liked and trusted.

Any thoughts/comments?
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 3:33:24 PM EDT
[#27]

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AHHH!! your killing me smalls....

Ok Im in a bind. Im finally ready to buy my next pistol after years of sitting around with my Beretta 92FS. I loved my beretta for a long time but i just out grew it I guess. It no longer feels comfortable in my hand though I loved the trigger.

I'm looking at the SP01, the 75 B SA, and the XD45acp but have no where around me to test fire them. Topgun in houston doesnt have any of these models. Those who have shot a beretta 92, how does the CZs triggers compare? And I know this isnt the Springfield forum but have any shot the XD as well? I dont like spending $$$$ on gunsmithing and i dont trust myself to do it either (especially the trigger) so Im looking for a stock gun that will remain so yet be well liked and trusted.

Any thoughts/comments?



if you are used to da/sa why don't you get a standard 75b model?  you can carry cocked/locked or with the hammer at half cock.  as to the other stuff i can't help you sorry.
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 4:17:08 PM EDT
[#28]

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AHHH!! your killing me smalls....

Ok Im in a bind. Im finally ready to buy my next pistol after years of sitting around with my Beretta 92FS. I loved my beretta for a long time but i just out grew it I guess. It no longer feels comfortable in my hand though I loved the trigger.

I'm looking at the SP01, the 75 B SA, and the XD45acp but have no where around me to test fire them. Topgun in houston doesnt have any of these models. Those who have shot a beretta 92, how does the CZs triggers compare? And I know this isnt the Springfield forum but have any shot the XD as well? I dont like spending $$$$ on gunsmithing and i dont trust myself to do it either (especially the trigger) so Im looking for a stock gun that will remain so yet be well liked and trusted.

Any thoughts/comments?



The CZ DA triggers aren't the best, but will smooth out with time.  You should check out the CZforum for lots of trigger opinion.

CZ forum

I owned a CZ-75B SA and it was great.  Of course that's only if you want a single action gun.  The XD trigger is a completely different animal than a traditional DA/SA gun.

I guess I'd need to know more about what you liked in your Beretta trigger to help you.


Link Posted: 5/18/2006 4:31:19 PM EDT
[#29]
DA/SA triggers are not a problem, I loved my Beretta 92FS trigger, but Im looking for SA for protection and concealed carry POSSIBLY. The size obviously does not matter and IS NOT a factor right now hence the XD thrown in the mix. Im concerned ONLY about trigger pull right now. I've shot a range Hi Power .40 years ago and did not like it. I've also shot glocks (hate them) but I couldnt hit anything with it mainly becuz the ergos SUCKED on those pistols. I am very accurate with the beretta however. HK USP .45 was nice but big for my hand when I was 15 lol. Been a long time since then. 1911s are nice though slightly thinner then what I want. I had a Sistema 1911 and a trigger job to about 3-3.5lbs crisp. Maybe ya'll could describe the trigger of the XD to get an idea? In the springfield forums they were talking about a company that does amazing trigger jobs and removes all the travel and return.

BTW I like a bit of travel like on my beretta, even the SA had like a Milimeter or so of travel before the break. I like feeling the tension in the trigger build so that its a predictable break. If any of these guns dont have travel in SA yet are still fairly predictable in the break thats great too. Its that enough of an idea for you?

I will not be buying the 75 DA/SA if I get the 75. It will be the SA only. Same with the SP01 If i choose that model. How do those 2 triggers compare?
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 4:42:22 PM EDT
[#30]

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I will not be buying the 75 DA/SA if I get the 75. It will be the SA only.



i am sorry but i don't understand the logic behind this.  if the standard b model can be carried safely in single action mode then how does that not suffice?
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 4:47:14 PM EDT
[#31]

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I will not be buying the 75 DA/SA if I get the 75. It will be the SA only.



i am sorry but i don't understand the logic behind this.  if the standard b model can be carried safely in single action mode then how does that not suffice?



If its got the decocker on it, how can you carry it in SA with the safety on?
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 4:57:03 PM EDT
[#32]

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DA/SA triggers are not a problem, I loved my Beretta 92FS trigger, but Im looking for SA for protection and concealed carry POSSIBLY. The size obviously does not matter and IS NOT a factor right now hence the XD thrown in the mix. Im concerned ONLY about trigger pull right now. I've shot a range Hi Power .40 years ago and did not like it. I've also shot glocks (hate them) but I couldnt hit anything with it mainly becuz the ergos SUCKED on those pistols. I am very accurate with the beretta however. HK USP .45 was nice but big for my hand when I was 15 lol. Been a long time since then. 1911s are nice though slightly thinner then what I want. I had a Sistema 1911 and a trigger job to about 3-3.5lbs crisp. Maybe ya'll could describe the trigger of the XD to get an idea?  The XD trigger is like the Glock trigger but lighter. It however has a longer reset and a heavier return.  It doesn't feel like a traditional SA trigger.  It doesn't have the smoothness, or the crisp break. In the springfield forums they were talking about a company that does amazing trigger jobs and removes all the travel and return.



BTW I like a bit of travel like on my beretta, even the SA had like a Milimeter or so of travel before the break. I like feeling the tension in the trigger build so that its a predictable break. If any of these guns dont have travel in SA yet are still fairly predictable in the break thats great too. Its that enough of an idea for you?  Not to worry, all of the guns you mention have take-up in the SA trigger.

I will not be buying the 75 DA/SA if I get the 75. It will be the SA only. Same with the SP01 If i choose that model. How do those 2 triggers compare?



The SP-01 like the 75B is a DA/SA trigger.  The SP-01 cannot be bought with a SA only trigger.  CZ is unique however in that it has a thumb safety that can be employed when the hammer is in single action mode.  Both the 75B and SP-01 have a DA trigger, but they can also be carried cocked and locked.  They do not have decockers.  To get a decocker, you'd need to buy a 75 BD, or a SP-01 tactical.  If you go that route, you lose the ability to run a DA/SA gun cocked and locked.
Link Posted: 5/18/2006 4:59:20 PM EDT
[#33]

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DA/SA triggers are not a problem, I loved my Beretta 92FS trigger, but Im looking for SA for protection and concealed carry POSSIBLY. The size obviously does not matter and IS NOT a factor right now hence the XD thrown in the mix. Im concerned ONLY about trigger pull right now. I've shot a range Hi Power .40 years ago and did not like it. I've also shot glocks (hate them) but I couldnt hit anything with it mainly becuz the ergos SUCKED on those pistols. I am very accurate with the beretta however. HK USP .45 was nice but big for my hand when I was 15 lol. Been a long time since then. 1911s are nice though slightly thinner then what I want. I had a Sistema 1911 and a trigger job to about 3-3.5lbs crisp. Maybe ya'll could describe the trigger of the XD to get an idea?  The XD trigger is like the Glock trigger but lighter. It however as a longer reset and a heavier return.  It doesn't feel like a traditional SA trigger.  It doesn't have the smoothness, or the crisp break. In the springfield forums they were talking about a company that does amazing trigger jobs and removes all the travel and return.



BTW I like a bit of travel like on my beretta, even the SA had like a Milimeter or so of travel before the break. I like feeling the tension in the trigger build so that its a predictable break. If any of these guns dont have travel in SA yet are still fairly predictable in the break thats great too. Its that enough of an idea for you?  Not to worry, all of the guns you mention have take-up in the SA trigger.

I will not be buying the 75 DA/SA if I get the 75. It will be the SA only. Same with the SP01 If i choose that model. How do those 2 triggers compare?



The SP-01 like the 75B is a DA/SA trigger.  CZ is unique however in that it has a thumb safety that can be employed when the hammer is in single action mode.  Both the 75B and SP-01 have a DA trigger, but they can also be carried cocked and locked.  They do not have decockers.  To get a decocker, you'd need to buy a 75 BD, or a SP-01 tactical.  If you go that route, you lose the ability to run a DA/SA gun cocked and locked.




Ahh ok. I did not know that. Very well then. Thanks for the informative answer
Link Posted: 5/19/2006 2:36:22 AM EDT
[#34]

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The SP-01 like the 75B is a DA/SA trigger.  CZ is unique however in that it has a thumb safety that can be employed when the hammer is in single action mode.  Both the 75B and SP-01 have a DA trigger, but they can also be carried cocked and locked.  They do not have decockers.  To get a decocker, you'd need to buy a 75 BD, or a SP-01 tactical.  If you go that route, you lose the ability to run a DA/SA gun cocked and locked.




Ahh ok. I did not know that. Very well then. Thanks for the informative answer



well now i feel like an ass because i was running on the assumption that you knew the difference between the various models.  sorry for not being more helpful.
Link Posted: 5/19/2006 7:37:16 PM EDT
[#35]

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The SP-01 like the 75B is a DA/SA trigger.  CZ is unique however in that it has a thumb safety that can be employed when the hammer is in single action mode.  Both the 75B and SP-01 have a DA trigger, but they can also be carried cocked and locked.  They do not have decockers.  To get a decocker, you'd need to buy a 75 BD, or a SP-01 tactical.  If you go that route, you lose the ability to run a DA/SA gun cocked and locked.




Ahh ok. I did not know that. Very well then. Thanks for the informative answer



well now i feel like an ass because i was running on the assumption that you knew the difference between the various models.  sorry for not being more helpful.



No no its my bad that I didnt ask you in the first place. But I do thank you for even bringing up the suggestion, else I never would have known and then would have regretted it in the long run.
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