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Posted: 6/9/2004 4:59:29 PM EDT
Had Fox news on while I was doing something else in the house, but I glanced up and saw one of those rolling headlines at the bottom of the screen. If I'm not mistaken, it said something to the effect that a certain model of Fobus holsters is being recalled because of eight incidents where a strap or something pulls the trigger when the weapon is drawn. Yikes; I've got two Fobus Roto-holsters (1911 and Glock 19). Mine don't have straps, though. Made me wonder. Anyone else heard anything?
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Posted: 6/9/2004 5:05:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless]
[#1]
www.usatoday.com/money/companies/regulation/2004-06-09-holster_x.htm
Holsters recalled because strap causes gun to fire WASHINGTON (AP) — A Pennsylvania company is recalling about 3,200 gun holsters because the strap can catch the trigger and cause the weapon to fire accidentally. Eight incidents of accidental firing have been reported, the Consumer Product Safety Commission said Wednesday. The Fobus USA Holster Division of First Samco, of Southampton, Pa., is recalling its Fobus GLT holsters, designed for Series 17 and Series 19 Glock handguns fitted with a laser-sight light. There have been eight reports of guns discharging as they were inserted into the holster. One person injured a finger. The recall, in cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, involves about 3,200 units with leather or plastic retention straps less than an inch wide. The holsters are inscribed with "GL 2*EMZ," "FOBUS" and "Made in Israel." They were sold at gun accessory retailers nationwide and on the Fobus Web site between March 2002 and March 2003 for about $40 to $45. The holsters have since been redesigned with wider straps and a plastic tip that is too wide to be caught in the trigger guard. Consumers should stop using the holsters immediately and bring them to a Fobus USA distributor for a free replacement holster or contact First Samco for instructions on how to return product for a replacement. Consumers can also send the recalled holster to Fobus USA in Southampton, and will be reimbursed for return shipping. For more information consumers can call 866-508-3997 between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2004 10:37:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Foubus is junk IMO!!!
I had a SIG 229, went to the shop to get a holster, so I decided on a Fobus, I opened the packege, inserted the pistol, and then I could'nt get the gun out of the damned thing... The dealer had to use a dremel to remove the gun, and in the process scratch the picc out of my SIG.. But he took care of that, I did'nt like the sig anyways, but I will never even think of another Fobus pos.. |
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Posted: 6/10/2004 2:38:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kpel308]
[#3]
Fobus=FirstSamco=Crap was my opinion before, but anyone who designs a holster that causes an ND is criminally negligent.
Purchase at your own risk. When come back, bring TRAUMA KIT!  Here's the recall poster:  Tacking this to keep some cheapskate from perforating himself...
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Posted: 6/10/2004 3:06:48 AM EDT
[#4]
I dunno. I have a regular roto-holster for my Glock and my 1911. I like em a lot for range use. They slip on and off my belt really easily (they're the paddle style), and function well. I had some Uncle Mike's kydex ones, and they always hung on my belt when trying to remove them. They're a decent, cheap range holster, IMO.
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Posted: 6/10/2004 9:03:02 AM EDT
[#5]
I know a narcotics detective who loves them, too. After handling his holster/1911 combo, I decided right there that it wasn't for me. To say I was less than impressed would be an understatement.
As always, Your Mileage May Vary. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2004 6:40:18 PM EDT
[#6]
They should all be recalled. Put a trainer in a holster tighten up the belt and have someone reach over and smack the holster and watch it pop off the belt. I was told this and tried it, it comes off pretty dang easy. The plactic seems to break right at the rivets each time. I agree with coltshorty45 on this one.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2004 7:00:14 PM EDT
[#7]
I have several Fobus holsters. Never had a problem with any of them. Some are over 5 YO and get used every week in IDPA matchs.
Opinions are like a**hole*, everyone has 1 and nobody cares. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/9/2004 8:48:12 PM EDT
[#8]
a fobus retention holster. now theres a contradiction.
Fobus holsters, especially rotoholsters, have this way of breaking when yanked on. If the holster will come apart when someone is yanking on your gun, what's the point of the retention strap? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2005 8:52:31 PM EDT
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/25/2005 3:06:34 PM EDT
[#10]
I had picked up a Fobus holster as a knock-around range holster. I wasn't looking to draw quickly from it. I only got it to carry the gun so I wouldn't have to leave my spare on the range booth's counter. Like coltshorty14, the Fobus I had wouldn't let go of the pistol. I had to push the pistol to the side, against the holster, to get it to release. I couldn't get rid of that holster fast enough. -Since that time I have heard of many instances of the plastic ripping around the rivets...
YMMV, but from what I have seen, Fobus holsters are the poorest quality, mass produced holsters on the market. There are plenty of quality Kydex holsters out there and there's a reason Fobus costs half as much as those holsters. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 12:18:27 AM EDT
[#11]
Two came with my Glock 21, I like them, they hold my Glock on my hip and are secure, good for open carry. Bought one for my 1911, and it sucks. I like leather now. |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 2:49:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gloftoe]
[#12]
Yep. These holsters should be used for RANGE USE ONLY. I happen to like mine, and it works fine for that purpose. Would I ever CCW or open carry (if we had that in TX) with one? Hell no. Edit, that link's broken. Let me see if I can find it again. Edit x2: media.putfile.com/gungrab-fobus |
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Posted: 9/12/2005 3:30:22 PM EDT
[#13]
I've had 2 and love them. I had one for my Sigma and it didn't hold it well but it did hold it. My Glock 22 locks into mine and will stay in through just about anything. Only problem with them is that they can be two hard to get off my belt. Not really that big of a deal.
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Posted: 9/18/2005 7:32:21 PM EDT
[#14]
That's some sick shit. 
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Posted: 9/18/2005 8:16:34 PM EDT
[#15]
I shall be the oddball in saying I like my fobus for my Glock 17 better than all three of
leather Bianchi holsters. There is obviously something wrong with me, because from what I saw in the video looked as if it took Two men, the fat one doing the most work, to break the holster. If someone is trying to get your gun, the first reaction would not be to try and push your gun clear off of your body, and I understand that you guys think that this man was trying to keep his gun in his holster, but the bad guy isn't going to be able to break it off like that unless you help him. The fatass in the video probably never wore a holster before and shouldn't anymore unless the rest of you would feel safe letting him help bad guys steal guns from him. Duh. Get a clue and look closer. By the way, if you can't draw the gun out of a fobus, what are you doing with a gun anyways? Do you people carry in your purses? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2005 7:42:41 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2005 12:24:08 PM EDT
[#17]
I used Fobus holsters for a time but unfortunately had problems with ripping the rivets out of the plastic. Also have one of the recalled holsters and contacted Fobus about a replacement, but never received a replacement holster.
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Posted: 11/26/2005 12:40:45 PM EDT
[#18]
I use a Fobus for my 3 gun setup (Sig P220) it is the belt holster type.. I have had no problems with it.
I also bought a paddle for my 92F, which I do NOT like at all. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2005 4:14:22 PM EDT
[#19]
I found a translation.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2005 4:46:02 PM EDT
[#20]
I got news, don't like cheap stuff, fine, don't buy it. That Video is BS, because those two are obviously trying to break that holster. I suspect I could do somehting similar with most any brand of paddle holster out there. Paddle holsters are about convenience, not ultimate security, if you want 100% security, buy an UM pro-3. Personally, I own a Fobus for almost every pistol I own, and just placed an order for 3 more. I have been Using Fobus since they came out, weekley, for IPSC and 3gun competitions, and have abused the heck out of them with ZERO problems. About a year ago, at a 3gun match, I fell during a stage. I was wearing a Fobus C21 1911 paddle holster. I fell hard, directly on the holster, with the rear sight of my pistol digging into a barricade. The holster was strong enough that it ripped my jeans and flipped me over as I fell without breaking. FObus haters are Just like Wolf Haters, they cannot be reasoned with or dissuaded. They feel if you didn't spend as much money as possible or at least much as they did, then you are inferior as a human being. It's your money, spend it however you like. |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 6:43:11 PM EDT
[#21]
A few years ago when I first heard of Fobus, I bought one of their holsters. It Israeli, its got to be good, right??
 I went to get out of the passengers side, the holster caught on the door jam (small car), the rivets came out that held the paddle to the holster itself, and my Glock went flying across the parking lot. I threw it in the trash and never looked back. Cheap rivets with cheap plastic dont mix.  |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 6:45:56 PM EDT
[#22]
good thing glocks are so safe
wouldn't have happened with a safe 1911.
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Posted: 12/25/2005 6:51:57 PM EDT
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I havent carried a Glock in a couple years- Jizzno was the beginning of the end between Glock and I. And it still would have happened, even if I had no weapon in it. This was door jam-big American- rivet and plastic failure, weapon had nothing to do with it. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2006 5:03:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hylton]
[#24]
Ouch 
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Posted: 1/12/2006 5:07:48 PM EDT
[#25]
yep, utter shit for carry
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Posted: 1/14/2006 9:29:02 AM EDT
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Guys, it is REALLY easy to try to skimp on carry gear when you have spent 500 or more on a carry piece.....BUT DON'T DO IT!!!
As Cav Vet has shown, it's a simple thing that can land your prized carry piece on the concrete.....and while it may not damage your weapon anything more than superficially, think of what kind of DOLT you will look like if people see it. That's the minimum that can happen. I used to use fairly cheap holsters for years....as I got fatter and fatter they became more and more uncomfortable and more and more of a liability to my security. One year, for my birthday, my best friend bought me a Galco paddle rig for my Browning High Power.....and though I would eventually find even that uncomfortable it served me well for years and I still use it from time to time. Recently I have taken the time to purchase all Galco carry pieces for my Colt 1911 carry gun and also more leather for the High Power....let me tell you, there is a WORLD of difference between Fobus/Uncle Mikes type stuff and Galco/Mitch Rosen/SafariLand type stuff. You absolutely cannot afford to buy cheap leather/kydex for a carry piece any more than you can afford to put a Simmons scope and 12 dollar weaver mounts on a Steyr PSG....and expect decent results anyhow. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2006 2:54:52 AM EDT
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2006 2:55:33 AM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2006 1:05:29 PM EDT
[#29]
i bought one based on some reviews and a few people that had one. if i had known i would not like it i would have bought something else. my gun fits fine, but after the first use its rubbing the finish off. so i stopped using it. ill prolly sell it or use it for a airsoft holster instead.
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Posted: 4/28/2006 8:56:44 PM EDT
[#30]
rubbing the finish off of what? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2006 4:42:02 PM EDT
[#31]
I'v carried a G23 in a Fobus for years, and I love mine. How does a strap pull the trigger on a gun when the gun is being drawn UP, and the trigger has to be pulled the opposite direction??
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2006 4:44:30 PM EDT
[#32]
Leather will rub the finish off a gun as fast as plastic. Besides a worn gun just looks good. Honest, and well carried.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2006 8:09:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LSP972]
[#33]
And THAT is about the best summation of the situation I've ever read. Good post, Barry. I realize I'm digging up a corpse that is better left buried, but all the "experts" on these boards just wear me out at times. I've carried a G19 in a Fobus GL2 professionally for over seven years. I've snagged it on door frames, car doors, etc., numerous times; it is still quite serviceable, thank you. As for the repeated referrals to that video... if you THINK about it for a minute, you'll realize the absurdity of the premise. The Fobus paddle holster is meant to be CONCEALED... i.e., if somebody makes a grab for your piece, then you don't know how to keep it hidden. Here's a news flash for all you "badged" (CCW permit) guys who don't carry for a living; if the grabber is bigger and/or stronger than you, he WILL get your shit, regardless of WHAT holster you're wearing, unless you make him disengage with a Plan B. We have seen this time and again in officer survival training. So sit there behind your 'puter, with your smug attitude, secure in the knowledge that your $150 custom leather or Kydex holster is better than my cheap little Fobus. You see, I've been where you are, and had a box full of custom leather that began gathering dust once I discovered the Fobus. I used to sneer at Fobus too; until a colleague shamed me into trying one. I just purchased a new Fobus HK1 for my new USPc. Fobus has done some improvements; this new holster is more substantial than my old one, yet is just as light and handy. If you've tried a Fobus and didn't like it, then fair enough. But if you're simply parroting what you're read here and elsewhere, do us all a favor and don't pontificate on a topic of which you have no personal knowledge. |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 6:38:52 PM EDT
[#34]
I have carried a firearm professionally for the past 20 years. I've tried Fobus holsters, back when they first came out, and hated them (1911). I have nothing against plastic, as I've had some great Kydex holsters, too.
I'll just agree to disagree with the poster immediately above. |
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Posted: 7/25/2006 6:57:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Never had a problem with a Fobus holster.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 7/26/2006 8:37:40 AM EDT
[#36]
If you get the opportunity, check out a new-production Fobus. They've made some improvements. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2006 8:29:35 PM EDT
[#37]
kpel308,
Got any salt?hinking.gif The Fobus HK1 for my USPc .45 doesn't hold the gun securely. Every other Fobus I've used held the gun positively against negative G; IOW, if you fell on your back, etc, the gun would stay put. A determined tug was necessary to release it. Not this one; you can now ease the gun out with two fingers on the butt. Obviously, that's a no-go. The first few days it was fine; perhaps something is wrong with it, after a couple of hundred presentations. Oh, well... I ordered a Kramer this afternoon. BTW, I've been toting for 28 years; 226 days till retirement. I've come full circle: from using "common" leather as a rookie, to discovering custom stuff, then the Fobus, and now back to custom. There's gotta be a moral in there somewhere... |
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Posted: 8/3/2006 6:35:31 AM EDT
[#38]
Kramer is damned good kit. If you want to still use Kydex, try Dave Elderton at KyTac. He made a Braveheart rig for me back when the SIG P-239 just came out and there wasn't any leather for it yet. Great holster. There were a couple of tweaks that had to be made, but I just drove down to the shop one afternoon, he did his thing, then we spent the rest of the day shooting. I haven't bought anything else from him in 10 years, but he still talks to me. That should be worth a plug in itself! 
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Posted: 8/3/2006 4:01:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Aimless]
[#40]
I've never tried it, but I have heard that fobus holsters are fairly easy to pull apart in a fight. One instructor who taught retention classes said the first thing he would do is single out someone with a fobus holster, have him put a blue gun in, then grab it and yank it so that the fobus holster broke in half, then hand him a $ 20.
The guys at Fobus are nice guys (the US guys I talked to) and the stuff I have bought from them worked much as you would expect in that price range, but I no longer use their holsters. |
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Posted: 8/3/2006 6:07:37 PM EDT
[#41]
Sure, I've got salt, but that doesn't mean I need to rub it in an open wound... I was thinking of having "got salt?" added to my sigline, but thought better of it...  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I try not to denigrate others. But... [CamptownRaces] I was right and you were wrong! Doo-dah! Doo-dah! I was right and you were wrong! Glad you made my day! [/Camptown Races] Too much temptation. Sorry... 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2006 6:18:04 PM EDT
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Pardon me while I yawn; then see my remarks above regarding gun grabbers. Anyone who carries exposed, and isn't wearing a proper uniform duty-type holster, is ASKING to have their piece snatched. Concealed carry is much more than techniques and gear; it is very much a state of mind as well. Not dissing you personally, Aimless; but I have heard this pap about how easy a Fobus is to break repeated so often it is getting tiresome. I'm not disputing the fact; but those "instructors" who belabor the point are MISSING the point: which is, the Fobus is intended for concealed carry. IOW, nobody ahould know you even have a gun until you're ready to show it to them...h, |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2006 6:19:41 PM EDT
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2007 8:47:43 PM EDT
[#44]
When the Roto-Holster first came out I thought the 360 degree adjustability feature would be worthwhile as I was spending 3 1/2 to 4 hours twice a week on a commute to work in another city and I wanted something I could adjust to work for a seated car position.
I quickly discovered that although the Fobus was great for that purpose, it was useless for concealed carry. So, I used it during the commute and switched to a Blade-Tech paddle holster before and after the commute. Worked great for it's intended purpose and I liked it. Now that I don't have that long commute, I just use the BT and position it a little further back around the hip in the car and slip it back forward for walking around. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2007 3:29:16 AM EDT
[#45]
No more fobus for me. This is the second time I've had problems with their design. I was using the recalled roto holster with the hard plastic strap on my Glock 22 with M3 light on a warrant service. Had the guy on the ground and started to holster. At the last minute I noticed that hard plastic thumb break had slipped into the trigger guard. I almost shot a hole in my leg. Got the replacement holster and it has worked fine.
Today I picked up a new fobus revolution holster for my Kimber. I get it home and try it out. The Kimber slid in with a loud click and it was in there for good. I couldn't get it back out. The instructions say you have pull it straight up with force. Well that's no good for anyone in a dangerous situation where a quiet and slow draw may be necessary. The Fobus guys just don't think things through. Oh and I couldn't get the Kimber out till I loosened the tension screw so much till the gun just slid out without any resistance. Back to the gun shop it goes. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2007 4:04:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Odingaard]
[#46]
This sucks; I have the EXACT Fobus they denoted as being unsafe. I bought it about 2 months ago because I wanted a holster for my G19 with my TLR-1 mounted. I don't use it for a daily carry holster, I only break it out once in a blue moon if my wife and I go for a late night walk. If I am not using the TLR, I prefer my Galco Matrix Belt Slide in the composite holster arena - it just seems a bit nice than the Fobus to me.
I'll probably keep mine as it is seldom used. I will, however, not be taking it's possible safety issues for granted. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/11/2007 12:13:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Dude take it back and request the recall replacement. The replacement is 100 times better even if you just use it once in a blue moon. That one time might be the one time you accidently shoot yourself or hurt someone close by. Not worth the chance when they must provided you the redesigned one free of charge. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2008 5:36:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2008 10:47:49 PM EDT
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2008 9:28:08 PM EDT
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Carried a glock in a fobus GL2 for 3 years without any trouble. I fell off the roof of my truck (don't ask), onto my side with the gun in fobus holster. Hurt like a MF, but it held up just fine. Sold it with my glock, but I'll consider getting another one. |
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