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Posted: 9/9/2019 7:46:23 AM EDT

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Flux-Defense-debuts-M17-chassis-brace/2-516326/



Pretty slick. Click. Cool video too.

They need to work on one for M&Ps now!

7/3/20 update per rudukai13:

Comments on their Instagram page have stated numerous times to email [email protected] to be put on their waiting/notification list. Still expect at least a several month delay between being out on the list and actually being able to order one though. They said today they’re shipping a batch of the MP17s out, probably to people who have been waiting a very long time:

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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:23:55 AM EDT
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My bank statement is about to be so
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 1:50:35 PM EDT
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I like these chassis more and more.  I may be in for one of these in the future.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 3:33:56 PM EDT
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Dammit OP, I just ordered one. Thanks a lot...

After packing my 6" 300blk SBR around while hiking I found myself wanting something smaller and lighter and was looking at some PCC PDW setups. This seems to fit the bill nicely. 5-6 week wait time sucks though.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 3:38:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 4:14:04 PM EDT
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Interesting.

Not going to fo on this.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 4:23:54 PM EDT
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Dammit OP, I just ordered one. Thanks a lot...

After packing my 6" 300blk SBR around while hiking I found myself wanting something smaller and lighter and was looking at some PCC PDW setups. This seems to fit the bill nicely. 5-6 week wait time sucks though.
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Sorry not sorry!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 4:25:18 PM EDT
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Now I want an M17!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 5:10:20 PM EDT
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Since they seem to be selling at B&T prices, I'd rather just pick up their version instead.

But new stuff is always cool.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 5:10:27 PM EDT
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Damnit...that is pretty sweet.  Just don't tell the wife!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 6:49:32 PM EDT
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Shoots like a primary, holsters like a pistol. 43 Rounds.

Works with Sig™ M17/18 and Sig P320™ series. Drop your Sig™ fire control unit™ into the system.
*Does not a include firearm, trigger control group or slide. Does not include holster, lights, sling, red dots, camouflage Cerakote or other accessories pictured.

5-6 Week lead time.

Compatible Models:

Sig M17/18, Sig P320™ Full size, X-Five full size, Tacops Full Size. To use the P320™ carry, compact, and subcompact, you must use a comp, threaded barrel, or suppressor or serious injury could occur.

Features:

Holds up to 43 rounds. Carries an extra mag.

QD mount for slings.

Optional Duty Holster - Level 2 Retention. Multi-light compatible - most Streamlight, Surefires and Inforces. The drop in holster is suppressor compatible as well.

Patent Pending one-handed deployment. (Spring-loaded.)

Optic mount works with most red dot sights - RMR™, Holosun®, Deltapoint™, and more. It also works with a pic rail for use with larger optics like, Aimpoint®, Eotech® etc.

Pic rail for pistol flashlights and IR Lights/Lasers - Optional Duty Holster works with most lights/lasers made for pistols.

Specs:

Smaller and lighter than most PDW’s on the market.

Weight: 2.8Lbs (With full size slide - empty)

Size: (Collapsed)  Height: 5.75”

Length: 10.75”

Width: 1.6”
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Link Posted: 9/9/2019 6:54:15 PM EDT
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Since they seem to be selling at B&T prices, I'd rather just pick up their version instead.

But new stuff is always cool.
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I went with the B&T and it's well made. FCG fit in snug with just hand pressure. I needed a hook to remove the FCG. Ideal fitment as far as I am concerned. Looks great with the pro cut full length slide. Stock is not installed yet as it's not an sbr registered item.... yet.

Only complaint is the grip is skinny. Too skinny.

Even with that..
Would reccomend!
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 7:31:48 PM EDT
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Now I want an M17!
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This.

Will it work with a standard 320 full size?
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:02:52 PM EDT
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This.

Will it work with a standard 320 full size?
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Yes
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 8:26:13 PM EDT
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Dude, that for my glock 40 would be titties...
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:39:24 PM EDT
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There is no way I am not going to drunk buy one of those. With a 40 slide, it would be s slick little deer gun. SBR or pistol is the question.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 9:53:30 PM EDT
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There is no way I am not going to drunk buy one of those. With a 40 slide, it would be s slick little deer gun. SBR or pistol is the question.
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I laughed then I realized that I’m the same way.  Only problem is that it’s begging for a can, and both my P320s are X series.  Which means I need a third one with a threaded barrel to SBR and put into this chassis.
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:10:49 PM EDT
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Looks alot cooler than the glock version, espically the non recip optic that and it looks cyperpunk. Also with the ability to have a manual safety on the 320 is great for this
Link Posted: 9/9/2019 10:49:46 PM EDT
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Dude, that for my glock 40 would be titties...
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They make one for large frame Glocks too
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 12:17:40 AM EDT
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Jesus 200 bucks for the holster though
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 12:35:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2019 12:39:16 AM EDT
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Honestly, that's really sick.

I didn't think much of the Glock version, but these more integrated P320 chassis are really cool. Might need to buy one if these down the road, would be a slick subgun.
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I havent heard of any dealers making the p320 into a full auto sub gun yet... has it happened?
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 12:44:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2019 9:47:01 AM EDT
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I just priced one out...and it'a not bad. $600 brace/holster plus an additional $500-600 for a P320 and threaded barrel.

We're talking Scorpion micro/GHM9 territory, but on an even smaller scale.

I think I'll be stopping by my LGS and taking a look at 320s today.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 9:58:52 AM EDT
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The video says the SBR version is shown throughout. So what does the "brace" version look like?
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 10:01:18 AM EDT
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It's shown at the end of the video.

Link Posted: 9/10/2019 11:09:26 AM EDT
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I like the pricepoint for sure, but damn if the EXO1 still isn't calling to me more....even though it's $650 for the one I want.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 11:26:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2019 1:34:53 PM EDT
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For anyone interested, here is the compensator shown on the m17 in the video.

https://www.parkermountainmachine.com/store/p396/PMM_Sig_Sauer_P320_Compensator.html
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Link Posted: 9/10/2019 3:58:56 PM EDT
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It reminds me of the "MP7" from HL2.  Looks really cool.

I ordered the Glock version before this was announced.  I think it's a little less bulky, and I'm already invested in the Glock universe as far as magazines and such.
Been wanting a glovebox PDW for a long time, I think Flux has created it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 6:30:48 PM EDT
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If you watch the other video at the site, the Glock brace has clear printing on the back that says “not a stock” on it.  I will not comment on what the other differences or similarities may be.  However, since it says “not a stock”, it is clearly a brace and not a stock, and should only be used as such.
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 6:49:06 PM EDT
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I need one
Link Posted: 9/10/2019 8:44:10 PM EDT
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I just priced one out...and it'a not bad. $600 brace/holster plus an additional $500-600 for a P320 and threaded barrel.

We're talking Scorpion micro/GHM9 territory, but on an even smaller scale.

I think I'll be stopping by my LGS and taking a look at 320s today.
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Difference is being able to use the same mags as your pistol.  Thats a HUUUGE plus over the scorp.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 10:24:36 AM EDT
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For anyone wondering, these are not set screw secured. They're shimmed.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 11:37:55 AM EDT
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So it seems like on the P320 version the "Flash Mag" grip thing is not optional, and is part of the grip assembly. Kinda like the CAA MCK. Both are pretty damn ugly.

The X01 is bad ass but its like $599

I wish CAA offered something like the regular Micro Roni for the P320, or an MCK without all that bulk and the spare mag holder on the foregrip area.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 12:21:57 PM EDT
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So it seems like on the P320 version the "Flash Mag" grip thing is not optional, and is part of the grip assembly. Kinda like the CAA MCK. Both are pretty damn ugly.

The X01 is bad ass but its like $599

I wish CAA offered something like the regular Micro Roni for the P320, or an MCK without all that bulk and the spare mag holder on the foregrip area.
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I am going to want a vfg any way. My other hand has to go somewhere . This seems like a good approach that still allows use with a holster. I probably wont keep a mag in it. Hopefully someone will make a good plug for it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 6:28:43 PM EDT
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I'm sure it's been done.

Guess "PCC" would be a bit more accurate for most.
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I know an SOT locally that mentioned reserching how to do it and he's come up empty handed. I am looking to see if I can find it to give him the info or point him where to get it done. From what I can tell, no one has done it. Even then after someone figures it out, they have one more issue... finding a 30 or 33 rd mag for it. Who wants a machine gun that only holds 21+1?
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 6:57:30 PM EDT
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I know an SOT locally that mentioned reserching how to do it and he's come up empty handed. I am looking to see if I can find it to give him the info or point him where to get it done. From what I can tell, no one has done it. Even then after someone figures it out, they have one more issue... finding a 30 or 33 rd mag for it. Who wants a machine gun that only holds 21+1?
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ETS is about to release HiCap mags for the 320.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 7:10:02 PM EDT
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Shame we cant get sig to make them for their own gun. I'd prefer an OEM or a MecGar
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 7:13:26 PM EDT
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Shame we cant get sig to make them for their own gun. I'd prefer an OEM or a MecGar
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ETS makes good mags for the Glocks.  Better than the MagPul, IMHO.  I guess time will tell.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 8:06:55 PM EDT
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Fingers crossed for the P365XL version.  Same layout, removable FCM, etc.
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 9:48:54 PM EDT
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I know an SOT locally that mentioned reserching how to do it and he's come up empty handed. I am looking to see if I can find it to give him the info or point him where to get it done. From what I can tell, no one has done it. Even then after someone figures it out, they have one more issue... finding a 30 or 33 rd mag for it. Who wants a machine gun that only holds 21+1?
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I'm sure it's been done.

Guess "PCC" would be a bit more accurate for most.
I know an SOT locally that mentioned reserching how to do it and he's come up empty handed. I am looking to see if I can find it to give him the info or point him where to get it done. From what I can tell, no one has done it. Even then after someone figures it out, they have one more issue... finding a 30 or 33 rd mag for it. Who wants a machine gun that only holds 21+1?
I know they’re questionable for reliability, but promag makes a 30 round P320 mag
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 10:42:58 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t hold your breath on that...
Link Posted: 9/11/2019 10:50:03 PM EDT
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It’s not quite 30 rounds, but using the OEM 21-round tube plus a +5 base pad plus Grams Engineering 13-coil spring and follower kit will give you a 27-round happy stick, two of which would be right at home in this chassis;



The 27-round mag on the right. Here’s what it looks like in an X-Carry grip module with magwell;

Link Posted: 9/13/2019 1:58:48 PM EDT
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Picked up my M17 today, gonna start my form 1 this weekend to build it up as a pdw.

instawhore
Link Posted: 9/13/2019 6:13:53 PM EDT
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I wouldn't hold your breath on that...
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Fingers crossed for the P365XL version.  Same layout, removable FCM, etc.
I wouldn't hold your breath on that...
Too late.  Cheeks bulging out, tips of fingers turning blue.  Any time now ...

Now We Play The Waiting Game
Link Posted: 9/14/2019 2:19:58 PM EDT
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Yea, gonna have to get one of these.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 12:50:53 AM EDT
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Ordered.  CDNN has a good deal on certified full size 320.  Couldn't resist.

Thoughts on what treaded barrel to buy?  The Silencerco barrel seems expensive.  Brownells has one for $125 but I couldn't find reviews.
Link Posted: 9/15/2019 6:42:21 PM EDT
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It would be nice if they made one for the P226.....
Link Posted: 9/16/2019 2:03:52 PM EDT
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Ordered.  CDNN has a good deal on certified full size 320.  Couldn't resist.

Thoughts on what treaded barrel to buy?  The Silencerco barrel seems expensive.  Brownells has one for $125 but I couldn't find reviews.
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Griffin Armament

Comes with a mini comp too. I have one on my p320 and love it.  Will also work on the M17 if you remove the LCI (takes 1 minute to do)
Link Posted: 9/30/2019 8:36:29 AM EDT
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MAC has his hands on a prototype. Looks solid and has me even more excited for the day mine ships.
Interesting to note that the one he had has provisions for a provided cross-block safety. Completely optional. It would be nice if that made it onto the production model.

NEW Flux Defense MP17 Sig P320 and M17 SBR chassis!
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