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Posted: 11/21/2017 9:54:47 PM EDT
So I am a lover of all things Glock. Seeing as how I own 4, the 19's are among my favs of all time.
What's strange for whatever set of reasons, is why the Rangers, SEALs, and now Marsoc, have not only gone to Glocks, but the 19. When there are bigger more "combat ready" Glocks made, I wonder why the decision? |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:19:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ahab:
https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/79905843_585405032235242_4356879937264854654_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=102&oh=b046c28362c3cc1b80f45b1b721a12eb&oe=5E851F13 What am I looking at? A RTF2 gen 3 glock? A gen 5 glock with no finger grooves?  Attached FileCD |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:27:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: There are G17 Gen 3 RTF on TPE property books down range. Got one on my hip right now. Not a program of record however. SOCOM hasn't bought any Gen 5s to my knowledge. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_5042_JPG-1196950.JPG CD 
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:54:01 PM EDT
[#3]
CBP is getting rid of their HK P2000 (not a nice pistol) and going with G19's
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Posted: 12/15/2019 2:00:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton:
CBP is getting rid of their HK P2000 (not a nice pistol) and going with G19's |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 4:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton:
CBP is getting rid of their HK P2000 (not a nice pistol) and going with G19's |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 4:28:04 PM EDT
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By all reports the USCG is getting G19s now.
As I understand, the plan was to mirror the DoD and adopt the M18. Potential delivery time issues resulted in the decision to buy the G19 off the CBP contract instead of the M18 off the MHS contract. I'm happy either way, either will be much better than the P229-40-DAK. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 8:34:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
By all reports the USCG is getting G19s now. As I understand, the plan was to mirror the DoD and adopt the M18. Potential delivery time issues resulted in the decision to buy the G19 off the CBP contract instead of the M18 off the MHS contract. I'm happy either way, either will be much better than the P229-40-DAK. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:01:22 PM EDT
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@Combat_Diver I've read that SEALs were known to use Walther PPS's(gen 1) for deep cover work. Ever see any?
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Posted: 12/15/2019 9:16:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCopp:
@Combat_Diver I've read that SEALs were known to use Walther PPS's(gen 1) for deep cover work. Ever see any? CD |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2019 4:41:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: USBP gets a choice of either 47/19, OFO is getting the 19, no idea what AMO is doing /anecdotal evidence |
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Posted: 12/16/2019 6:54:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ahab:
https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/79905843_585405032235242_4356879937264854654_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=102&oh=b046c28362c3cc1b80f45b1b721a12eb&oe=5E851F13 What am I looking at? A RTF2 gen 3 glock? A gen 5 glock with no finger grooves? 
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Posted: 12/16/2019 7:29:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By helmet91:
I've seen OFO FI types with the 26 for off duty carry... /anecdotal evidence Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By helmet91:
Originally Posted By cone256: USBP gets a choice of either 47/19, OFO is getting the 19, no idea what AMO is doing /anecdotal evidence |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2019 5:36:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cone256: Well they're FI so they do what they want lol |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2019 10:50:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCopp:
@Combat_Diver I've read that SEALs were known to use Walther PPS's(gen 1) for deep cover work. Ever see any? |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 12:05:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MM:
The Walther PPS was not in service very long (2005-2007ish) The pistol was garbage and the DA Trigger absolutely horrid. The P239 replaced the PPS. There are still a few P239 in service at a specific command, the Glock 19 however has become the go to SOCOM Pistol. RDS are filtering in now and before you know it RMR and other RDS will be standard on all pistols. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MM:
Originally Posted By DCopp:
@Combat_Diver I've read that SEALs were known to use Walther PPS's(gen 1) for deep cover work. Ever see any? |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 12:44:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kevinski:
The PPS is striker fired, not DA. You sure you are talking about a PPS? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kevinski:
Originally Posted By MM:
Originally Posted By DCopp:
@Combat_Diver I've read that SEALs were known to use Walther PPS's(gen 1) for deep cover work. Ever see any? |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 3:46:17 AM EDT
[#17]
Slightly off topic, what’s the story behind noblex optics? I’d like to build a 17/22 clone but rarely if ever see them in the civilian market.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/18/2019 7:04:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By S-1: It was a PPK. May have been earlier than that too. |
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Posted: 12/18/2019 11:30:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MM: S-1 is correct it was the PPK. No striker fired Walther has ever been in service with the SEAL Teams. http://www.defensereview.com/walther-pps-police-pistol-slim-single-stack-striker-fired-9mm-compact-pistol-for-concealed-carry-ccw-applications-and-covert-missionsoperations/ |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/18/2019 1:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D:
I know it's the internet, but is the author of this article mistaken? http://www.defensereview.com/walther-pps-police-pistol-slim-single-stack-striker-fired-9mm-compact-pistol-for-concealed-carry-ccw-applications-and-covert-missionsoperations/ |
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Posted: 12/27/2019 7:22:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Posted: 12/31/2019 4:26:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Are there any sporting grip force adapters?
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USA
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Posted: 12/31/2019 5:51:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GSPatton:
CBP is getting rid of their HK P2000 (not a nice pistol) and going with G19's I either carry GLOCK 19 or an HK P2000 9mm. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 6:41:52 AM EDT
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Any of the new tan RMRs starting to show up yet? Seems like most team guys have doctor sights on their pistols in all the photos posted
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MA, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2020 10:24:55 AM EDT
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close up of General Miller's Glock seen in an earlier pic. A clear view of the deltapoint pro and the beveled front edges of what I bet is a Gen 5 Glock 17.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2020 12:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ubar_Jay:
Slightly off topic, what's the story behind noblex optics? I'd like to build a 17/22 clone but rarely if ever see them in the civilian market. I'm a huge fan if them, despite the RMR being more robust. The glass clarity is phenomenal and FWIW mine has been beaten up unintentionally quite a bit without ever losing zero. Don't drop it from head height and it'll be GTG. |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 7:04:11 PM EDT
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Is the 6 second mount loosing favor?
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Posted: 1/1/2020 7:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Is the 6 second mount loosing favor? |
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Posted: 1/1/2020 7:33:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Boom_Stick]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
I think the understanding for it was that it was a very niche item for a very specific unit and used when doing a very specific task. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Is the 6 second mount loosing favor? Red dot scopes mounted directly to their pistol slides were showing a high failure rate due to extreme acceleration or deceleration of the slide. The balance of the pistols was thrown off from the rearward scope mounting position, and the slides were weakened from machining a pocket for the scopes into the top of the slide. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2020 8:20:41 PM EDT
[#30]
Bump for one of my favorite threads on the interwebs.
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USA
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Posted: 1/28/2020 8:52:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Paladin556]
[#31]
Muh tubular assaults yo
I’ve been hankering to build one up though just because. ETA Odd not sure why that didn’t quote TCBAs post. |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 10:29:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Kinda figured that, but I was wondering if the SSM was pre minature RDS? Like on the cusp of mini RDS popularity? A solution to a short lived problem. From their website it says: I could see red dots the size of aimpoint micros causing the problems they're describing. It seems from this thread and the trend with handguns that the mini RDS is king, and mounting something the size of an aimpoint is ancient thinking. ALG isnt even making them anymore because they're not popular. If anyone wants that capability, but doesn't care about clone correctness, Agency Arms is building a simliar niche product. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:57:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick: I could see red dots the size of aimpoint micros causing the problems they're describing. It seems from this thread and the trend with handguns that the mini RDS is king, and mounting something the size of an aimpoint is ancient thinking. ALG isnt even making them anymore because they're not popular. The T1 is still the most robust optic you can mount to a handgun with the only issue being its overall bulk. When the ALG description was written it was geared toward the high failure rates seen with the RMR, not the T1. Outside of the ATOM slides, the T1 has never been a direct attach optic for pistols; needing something like the Balor or Aimpoint dovetail mount to fit the slide ride role. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/29/2020 12:02:04 PM EDT
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Found this on Instagram. Supposedly a SOCOM Mk27 Mod 2.
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Posted: 1/29/2020 1:15:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex:
Found this on Instagram. Supposedly a SOCOM Mk27 Mod 2. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49460337947_687f555f92_c.jpg |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/29/2020 1:22:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45ProCarry:
What band/model red dot is this? I don't know much about pistol red dots and I am thinking about installing 1 on my Glock 34 gen 5 MOS. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45ProCarry:
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Found this on Instagram. Supposedly a SOCOM Mk27 Mod 2. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49460337947_687f555f92_c.jpg |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2020 3:39:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TAPTAP556]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cmcflex:
Found this on Instagram. Supposedly a SOCOM Mk27 Mod 2. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49460337947_687f555f92_c.jpg Any idea if accurate or what 9mm cans are in use? Haven’t seen much info on what is being used except the m27 spec calls for m13.5x1LH threads my guess is to match HK and Sig thread patterns for cross compatibility. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 3:50:11 AM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2020 5:02:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TAPTAP556:
Using SilencerCo Omega 9k? Any idea if accurate or what 9mm cans are in use? Haven’t seen much info on what is being used except the m27 spec calls for m13.5x1LH threads my guess is to match HK and Sig thread patterns for cross compatibility. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TAPTAP556:
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Found this on Instagram. Supposedly a SOCOM Mk27 Mod 2. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49460337947_687f555f92_c.jpg Any idea if accurate or what 9mm cans are in use? Haven’t seen much info on what is being used except the m27 spec calls for m13.5x1LH threads my guess is to match HK and Sig thread patterns for cross compatibility. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 8:19:17 AM EDT
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This was posted to a FB clone group.
Claims they're AFSOC 24th STG. The Glock looks to be a blue gun Gen 5 19, wonder if that's paired with a live Gen 5? 
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Posted: 2/17/2020 9:15:47 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
This was posted to a FB clone group. Claims they're AFSOC 24th STG. The Glock looks to be a blue gun Gen 5 19, wonder if that's paired with a live Gen 5?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/FB_IMG_1581941847166-1279658.jpg |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 9:41:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance]
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There's no denying that the G19 is an excellent/reliable pistol but I can't wrap my head around the reasoning for it being adopted for a military role.
I've fondled the gun countless times and I just can't get over the fact that grip will not accept three fingers. My pinkie gets about 49% purchase at the bottom of the grip and if sweaty, it slips off as soon "real" grip pressure is applied. With the added thickness of gloves, my pinkie is literally hanging off the grip. It's not like I have NBA-sized hands either. To put things into perspective, I can barely palm a broken-in NBA sized basketball pumped up to 8 psi. I can palm it and slowly move the ball around but any sudden pronounced movement causes the ball to slip from my hand. What's strange is that I don't have this issue with other G19-sized hand guns (CZ P-10C, CZ P-07, M&P 2.0 C, P320 C, etc.) I can't be the only one experiencing this issue. P.S. Glad the G45 came out. I wonder if this is what a G19 feels like to most people? |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 9:47:16 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
There's no denying that the G19 is an excellent/reliable pistol but I can't wrap my head around the reasoning for it being adopted for a military role. I've fondled the gun countless times and I just can't get over the fact that grip will not accept three fingers. My pinkie gets about 49% purchase at the bottom of the grip and if sweaty, it slips off as soon "real" grip pressure is applied. With the added thickness of gloves, my pinkie is literally hanging off the grip. It's not like I have NBA-sized hands either. To put things into perspective, I can barely palm a broken-in NBA sized basketball pumped up to 8 psi. I can palm it and slowly more the ball around but any sudden pronounced movement causes the ball to slip from my hand. What's strange is that I don't have this issue with other G19-sized hand guns (CZ P-10C, CZ P-07, M&P 2.0 C, P320 C, etc.) I can't be the only one experiencing this issue. P.S. Glad the G45 came out. I wonder if this is what a G19 feels like to most people? |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 10:14:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PFran42:
There's no denying that the G19 is an excellent/reliable pistol but I can't wrap my head around the reasoning for it being adopted for a military role. I've fondled the gun countless times and I just can't get over the fact that grip will not accept three fingers. My pinkie gets about 49% purchase at the bottom of the grip and if sweaty, it slips off as soon "real" grip pressure is applied. With the added thickness of gloves, my pinkie is literally hanging off the grip. It's not like I have NBA-sized hands either. To put things into perspective, I can barely palm a broken-in NBA sized basketball pumped up to 8 psi. I can palm it and slowly move the ball around but any sudden pronounced movement causes the ball to slip from my hand. What's strange is that I don't have this issue with other G19-sized hand guns (CZ P-10C, CZ P-07, M&P 2.0 C, P320 C, etc.) I can't be the only one experiencing this issue. P.S. Glad the G45 came out. I wonder if this is what a G19 feels like to most people? CD |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 3:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
This was posted to a FB clone group. Claims they're AFSOC 24th STG. The Glock looks to be a blue gun Gen 5 19, wonder if that's paired with a live Gen 5?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/FB_IMG_1581941847166-1279658.jpg Can't say I've personally seen or seen a photograph of a 19, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me, especially given the other things hanging out in that thur case and the 
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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:36:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
This was posted to a FB clone group. Claims they're AFSOC 24th STG. The Glock looks to be a blue gun Gen 5 19, wonder if that's paired with a live Gen 5?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/FB_IMG_1581941847166-1279658.jpg |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 4:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC_Augee]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc2129:
What’s the rifle with the side folder? Just kidding.
It's a Sig LVAW (Low Visibility Assault Weapon). 6.75" 300BLK. The short version is that the MCX-family grew out of/was an evolution of the original HALO/LVAW program, which more or less grew out of the Honey Badger. ~Augee |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 5:43:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TCBA_Joe]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
Wouldn't you like to know?
Just kidding.
It's a Sig LVAW (Low Visibility Assault Weapon). 6.75" 300BLK. The short version is that the MCX-family grew out of/was an evolution of the original HALO/LVAW program, which more or less grew out of the Honey Badger. ~Augee Honeybadger supplied to *customer*. Customer likes them but wants changes and goes to an open tender for the "LVAW". SIG develops the a 300blk 516 with a short stock and bbl. Slowly refined into "Halo" which is a very early MCX. Lead engineer takes the opportunity to make the gun a system instead of a dedicated platform. (MPX developed and spun off) Halo slowly morphs into MCX and is submitted to *customer* who selects the MCX from the other competitors. There's a lot more steps that happened. But I got to see a bit behind the scenes and the steps that SIG took, and it convinced me that the MCX will eventually surpass the 416 with global SOF. |
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Posted: 2/17/2020 9:55:28 PM EDT
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That’s pretty cool. Thanks for the info.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2020 1:44:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134:
Glock factory barrels have 13.5x1 LH threads, would be my guess as to why. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134:
Originally Posted By TAPTAP556:
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Found this on Instagram. Supposedly a SOCOM Mk27 Mod 2. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49460337947_687f555f92_c.jpg Any idea if accurate or what 9mm cans are in use? Haven’t seen much info on what is being used except the m27 spec calls for m13.5x1LH threads my guess is to match HK and Sig thread patterns for cross compatibility. https://store.teamglock.com/gun-parts/slide-parts/barrels/g19-gen4-threaded-barrel.html Pistons for all of these cans can be purchased with different thread pitches (AAC and SiCo). Was mainly curious as to what may be truly in use or if there are any pics of cans in the wild vs. what has already been shown on the page. The Omega 9k checks a lot of boxes that I believe would be wanted for mil use, but that’s the only time I’ve seen such a photo. Lots of details on rifle cans but not much info out there on pistols. I don’t imagine it would be protected given everything else we’ve seen. |
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