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Posted: 9/16/2005 8:05:44 PM EDT
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Rifles only?
I need a Saiga .308 and a Saiga 12. Bad. |
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Posted: 9/16/2005 8:24:59 PM EDT
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that makes two of us, especially a 12 ga. Will they have High cap mags coming in?
ls |
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Posted: 9/16/2005 8:28:55 PM EDT
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Anything evil? AKs 12guages with highcap mags and pistol grips?
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Posted: 9/16/2005 9:04:05 PM EDT
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My thought is that the 8 rounds mags are not classified as "sporting" by the alphabet boys, so IMO when hell freezes over. I am considering a .308 just to have another AK in a different round. |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 7:13:45 AM EDT
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+1 Can't wait! As far as hicap 12 gauge mags, Here's your guy: www.saigasolutions.com/ |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 7:21:39 AM EDT
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I wonder if they will start to have dimples again, like the ones sold in Europe do.....
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Posted: 9/17/2005 10:49:30 AM EDT
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Man I would really like to pick up a Saiga 12
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Posted: 9/17/2005 10:53:56 AM EDT
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Wow I just got a woody. Aren't these 1.6mm receivers? the AK-1XX series guns are made on 1.0mm receivers right? |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 11:09:44 AM EDT
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They are 1.0mm receivers... |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 1:14:39 PM EDT
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About 2 months ago I picked up 3 Saiga-12 8 rounders (9 if you use the BHO) for $75 shipped.
I still want my Saiga-12 SWAT (i.e. the -30 model). |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 1:17:17 PM EDT
[#11]
TAG!
 -Foxxz |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 3:04:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Excellent!
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Posted: 9/17/2005 4:15:21 PM EDT
[#13]
Good news for sure!!!!!
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Posted: 9/17/2005 4:41:53 PM EDT
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Picked up my .308 today. Now for the 12ga...
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Posted: 9/17/2005 5:39:38 PM EDT
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Any idea on pricing? I heard they are going to be a lot more expensive then when they originally came in.
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Posted: 9/17/2005 5:44:03 PM EDT
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I hope CDNN is on their distributor list.
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Posted: 9/17/2005 8:30:30 PM EDT
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You got that right. I picked up one of the last batch of Saiga-12s for $229 shipped about 6-8 months ago. I still want my Saiga-12-030 with mags. Non-sporting = true...just like Benellis. |
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Posted: 9/17/2005 9:44:20 PM EDT
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TAG
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Posted: 9/17/2005 9:57:04 PM EDT
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tag
This might make my AK-104 a little easier to someday obtain!
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Posted: 9/17/2005 10:25:50 PM EDT
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Since I am relatively new to AKs, help me out guys...
1. When did they stop importing the SAIGA's ??? 2. While they were still being imported, how much did they cost ? Just a relative "mean" number will do . 3. What builders convert SAIGA's ? I need names people : ) 4. How much does AK-USA charge to convert a SAIGA ? They pulled their pricing in the past few weeks.. ?? 5. Will SAIGA conversions be competitive in price with Arsenal Inc. Rifles ??? Sorry for all the questions... I am just excited as I have been following this topic for a while in the SAIGA section. I'm just wondering if they will be able to compete with Arsenal.... Then again I need you guys to tell me what the SAIGA's used to cost and what they cost to convert before I can decide if they can compete or not  Thanks for any answers. ETA: Will these be coming in 5.45 as well ? |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 2:50:58 AM EDT
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I hope Saigas become plentiful and cheap again, I'd like to pick up a few. 
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Posted: 9/18/2005 7:28:19 AM EDT
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FYI , We ,Atlantic Firearms,llc will be distributors for the Saiga /RRA line of firearms, we expect the first limited shipments to arrive in late Oct. Yes the prices will be higher than before but not out of control. The great news is the new importer has a fair amount of these firearms scheduled for importation and is only concentrating on the importation of this product line. Thank You Atlantic Firearms,llc
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Posted: 9/18/2005 9:31:50 AM EDT
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Let us know if the "model lineup" has changed. As I recall they had the following or sale last year: Saiga 7.62x39 Saiga .223 Saiga .308 Saiga .410 shotgun Saiga 20-ga shotgun Saiga 12-ga shotgun Anything changing? New configurations? |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 10:48:13 AM EDT
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This is the best news I've heard this week. I'm itching for a Saiga shotgun.
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Posted: 9/18/2005 11:46:12 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the information NH_AR_Shooter...
I'll e-mail Chris sometime next week so I can get an idea of how much I will have to be saving  I am really in the market for a 5.45 gun, Templar told me that I would be getting one... I guess he is psychic somehow  Hopefully in the next few weeks we will see if they will be importing any 5.45, but like you said... It seems unlikely since the 5.45 is banned in Russia. I like the idea cheap AKs, but I like quality too. That is why I would like my next AK purchase to float around 500 bucks. There is just something about owning a real Russian gun that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Maybe I got into the AK game way too late because having a nice kit built or buying a new gun isn't much cheaper than buying an AR... especially if you are "building" handicapped. I just hope that these Saigas will help bring about healthy AK competition so the priced can be lowered a bit. I guess if all else fails I guess I could just get a .223 Saiga coverted, then wait for a side folding Arsenal 5.45. Oh yeah, are the .223 SAIGAs 5.56 rated or not ? Thanks again for the help... |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 8:56:54 PM EDT
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You're Welcome. As far as quality goes, its hard to beat a Saiga converted by Chris. Saigas are made by Izhmash, except for the absence of magwell dimples, these are the real thing. There are other great builders out there, but AK-USA gets my vote. An Arsenal gun built from parts on an American receiver may be as good or better, but where AKs are concerned I tend to favor Izhmash. Now....if only they would send us some guns with "dimples". As far as kits go, if there is anyway you can pick up one or more of those excellent Romy kits, you should do it. Have them built eventually or sell them later, you can't lose. NH |
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Posted: 9/18/2005 10:55:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2005 8:43:49 AM EDT
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$160 for 7.62x39mm Saiga?!?! I haven't seen one go for less than $500! WTF?!?! $160.00 in unconverted form. All of those prices I gave are for the base line Saigas, from CDNN, they won't be that cheap again, kind of sucks, the AWB goes away and AK prices go up. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 9:08:15 AM EDT
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Oh yeah, are the .223 SAIGAs 5.56 rated or not ?
Mine ran on anything I threw at it in unconverted form, SS109 to Wolf hp all went fine. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:02:05 AM EDT
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Well I guess I will hold off from getting a another Vepr K until I see the prices of the new Saigas. If they are $300 or under for an unconverted one I will get some if they are close to $400 I will just get another Vepr. However I am a shooter not some one wanting to build a classic AK piece. A local gun store is advertising the 10rd WASR for $204 so I am thinking of picking up one of those and tweaking it but my Saiga .223 sure is a lot nicer than my Romanian I have. I canverted my Saiga my self and thought it was fairly easy. The only trick was the feed ramp design. It took a bit of woork but it will feed anything with the 35 RD Galil mags or my converted AK 74 mags.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 12:12:21 PM EDT
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Seeing as the .223 Saigas were still around new a couple of months ago for less than $250, I would hope that the distributors aren't going to be above $300, and even less for the 5.56x39 which were less than $200 on sale when they were still coming in. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 1:20:24 PM EDT
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I asked that same question earlier... I guess since you ran SS109 through it, then it should be fine. I know someone out there could jump in here and say "yep, she's 5.56 NATO all the way baby"... I guess I will just be waiting for that guy I really just have the numbers floating around in my head about Saiga conversions. I found that conversion website and it seems "fairly" simple... but if the guns are going to cost over 3-400 bucks, then it wouldn't be worth it to me. It would just make more sense to get a SAM-5 or an SLR-105 and be done with it. Or a couple of WASRs for that matter. This may sound like blasphemy, but I don't really care anything about "historical accuracy", I just want quality made, reliable, cost effective AKs (real shooters that will probably never see the inside of my safe). If I had any building talent or tools, then that would be fun, but I don't. I leave building to the pros. Maybe Atlanticfirearms and others will be posting some prices for the new Saigas soon... then I'll know what route to take |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 2:39:37 PM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:06:18 PM EDT
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We do not have the pricing completely ironed out yet but we think the 762 & .223 base rifles will be around $259-269 range. Looks like the standard line up will be avaiable , .308, .223, 762 x39 , 12 ga,20 ga & 410 . Please let us know what models most people are intersted in and we can check on future availibilty etc. Thank You ,Atlantic Firearms,llc
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:23:12 PM EDT
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Tag and at those prices I would be buying a 12ga, 7.62x39 and maybe one other.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:41:13 PM EDT
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Picked up a 410 and a 20 gauge, at Dunhams a couple of weeks back, the 20 was 229.00 reduced from 399.00 and the 410 was also 229.00 reduced from 299.00.
Who says you cant find a deal at the big boy shops, and IM an FFL. I know, they MAY be cheaper from RAA, but I have them NOW and Im SHOOTING them now........... |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 6:43:49 PM EDT
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Mr. Atlantic Firearms... I would be "interested" in the .223 & 7.62x39 models
While you're at it, call Russia and tell them that we want some 5.45 as well  Call me crazy, but for those prices... I think it would be a great place to start with "converting" for an AK newb  So I read that article on conversion and the guy said 3 hours... So if I multiply X.... and add the time up for.... eat.... think about sleep..... fix what I screwed up in step 3.... re-do step 3 because I read it wrong.... pass Go and collect 200.... I should be able to complete a conversion right before the second coming of Christ  Is it measure once cut twice, or just eyeball it then cut Wonder when we will be seeing some pics of these nice guns ? |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 8:21:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Okay, I checked around.
The average price for an unconverted Saiga in .223 or 7.62x39mm is $300. The average price for the .308 is between $400 and $500. The average price for a converted Saiga in any caliber is $500 to $600. I'm hoping new imports become a definite reality and the price goes down drastically. Then I could conceivably get my dream AK before Hitlery comes to power and the Beast rules us for seven years. 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 8:25:04 PM EDT
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Its cut first, eyeball it, cut some more, then measure.....then......  Just take your time and avail yourself of the considerable pool of knowledge which resides here.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 8:29:32 PM EDT
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Those prices sound reasonable. I would like to see a 5.45x39 version of the base rifle.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 8:32:32 PM EDT
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supposedly
(from an aim conversation with debbie of raac) they will be importing 30-06 saigas and possibly 7.62x54r saigas well see
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Posted: 9/20/2005 2:58:30 AM EDT
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Yes they do list a 30.06 Saiga but they are expensive they would probably retail over the $750 ish price level.The base 12 ga shotgun should sell in the $369 ish range, please keep in mind these are no official prices but should be close to accurate. We are adding on to our initial order & trying to find out what our clients will want the most.We mainly will carry the 762 rifles & 12 ga shotgun any intrest in the others ? Thank You Atlantic Firearms,llc
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Posted: 9/20/2005 4:22:37 AM EDT
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I'll tell you what I want the most: A .308 cal., 16" barrel, and 20-25 rd mags for it.
OJF |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 5:05:59 AM EDT
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I want a .223 AK...... If I missed it.... When are they expected in ??????? WarDawg
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Posted: 9/20/2005 8:18:52 AM EDT
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223 for me too......They are expected in at the end of October.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 8:36:48 AM EDT
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Nevermind the importation issues with 8rnd 12ga mags, we do need a heap of new 5rnd mags like those which came with the rifle. I have some 3rnd hunting mags as cheap backups, but I feel that you can sell a half-dozen 5rnd mags easy for every Saiga 12ga out there. |
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Posted: 9/20/2005 1:41:47 PM EDT
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I think there is a lot of interest for the .223 guns. I hope the newer models have the mag well dimples. I would also like to see the 20" .223 imported; previously not available in the American market.
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Posted: 9/20/2005 2:13:16 PM EDT
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Atlantic...will you guys be selling converted 12s & 20s?
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Posted: 9/20/2005 2:16:21 PM EDT
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I would like to have one in 308 before the next hurricane season.
 You don't take fema cards, do you?
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Posted: 9/20/2005 9:28:05 PM EDT
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Mmm. .30-06 Saiga with Dragunov stock, recoil compensator, and a good scope... Forget the Romak-3, I gots me some black tip AP!
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