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Posted: 9/1/2005 6:38:37 AM EDT
...mail me at [email protected] The Kentucky State Police are involved.
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Whoa...already getting a bunch of emails.... please.. email me all the specifics, date, payment method,his email addy everything you can. The Detective and myself already have his ISPs. We have a Detective with the Kentucky State Police internet crimes department who is involved. I guess some people don't realize that once you involve the US Post Office, it becomes a FELONY....
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WTF? Is this the same 555th at Gunco? I know him personally and was just at the shoot last weekend with him.
He doesn't seem like a con man at all. Back last year he had a small marital problem and had a little trouble delivering a few peices he was selling, but that all got patched up. |
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It's that POS that was selling riveting jigs on Gunco that never delivered.
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If it is the same guy who lives on the KY/ W Va border...he is in a world of hurt! Please email me with any contact info you have. Do what you want as far as Gunco, but he is history here!
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Wow...... There was a guy in KY called FSNCO who we banned for not delivering, but I hadn't heard anything about 555th.
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We do need to verify this as I can not beleave this is the same 555th from other sites that was the origen of the 555th jig...
www.gunsnet.net/forums/member.php?u=27218 I will send him an e-mail and share this thread with him... perhaps there was someone else using the name here that is a different guy? I will also stand up for 555th so perhaps he is just having some personal issues right now? Yea... my 555th is in Kentucky too |
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=123&t=292190
Member since '04. I have 2 people that say he never delivered jigs. PP reversed the funds out of at least 2 of his last purchases. One of which was a purchase from me. He is reading here, I have been watching his IP. He can no longer post however. He is also avoiding all my emails. The guy lives in a small town on the KY, WVa border, not too far off Hwy64. Is this the same guy? |
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I couldn't have said it better. I just spent the last weekend with 555th and can't imagine him ripping anyone off. Hopefully were talking about two differant people. |
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Also have to say I'd be surprised if he was the one ripping people off. The 555th I met seemed nothing but helpful and honest.
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Are you sure you have the right guy???????
There is another guy out there ripping people off. |
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The gentleman who stiffed me last name was Davis....or atleast that is the name he gave me. in a small town in KY. same guy? ...also has an address in WVa right accross the Ky border. If anybody thinks they can get in touch with him you might want to before the Federal and State authorities do.
Here is another person taken..... www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=123&t=292161 |
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Seems to me, if memory serves me, there was another feller that went with a nickname very similiar. Like our guy from Gunco is "555th", and the guy here was going by "555"...
I could be wrong, but agree with the others, I do not belive that 555th from Gunco would do something like this.. |
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Jeep,
I just sent you 2 PM's. I think there has been a big mis-understanding. I gave you Curt's number and you can call him right now, he just got home from work and he is cool with you calling him. As I said in my second PM there may be another issue. |
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I'm trying to help Al...... In this case I think we will have a good outcome. |
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taken????...were funds received??? has this person complained???? |
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Yes AL,
Funds were received, then taken away. I did my homework. BTW....welcome to the board |
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Not sure what is going on, I have sent numerous emails, with no response. |
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Here's the record of my transaction. ORF is right, it's FSNCO that we want so let's not get the wrong guy here. Sorry if I got mixed up because it's been so long and my apologies to 555th. This shitbag that never delivered the trigger guard jig DOES live in Kentucky though.
Trigger guard rivet jig on gunco classified. Ji Skaggs was what he went by then and his e-mail was [email protected]. I paid for mine on April 29th, 2005 through PayPal and the total was $47.80 for one jig. |
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We have to rememebr there is quite a bit going down in that part of the country... I do wish we could get to the bottom of this
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That other 555 was a guy basing his name on the Nitto 555 sports car tire. |
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yeah, what a welcome. my bud, who has done tons for the world of AK building, hung high and dry and allowed no site access to defend his self. Seems the issue may be with paypal (remember, the anti-gun people)... You need to start double checking your homework.. |
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I too received Paypal from 555th,Shipped 2 parts kits,2 parts kits were deliveried(to Curt in WV)and the next day the funds were froze in my Paypal account . I wanted to keep this off the boards to let 555th get it worked out on his own ,But....... So looks like Jeep did do his home work and is not alone!! |
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And how is 555th responsible for what Paypal does? i've spoken to him, his card has been charged for those kits. the money was sent to you, then retracted by paypal for some stupid ass reason to yet be determined. who are the people who did not receive 555th jigs........NOBODY... As for the other 2 purchase issues, seems the problem is because of some stupid ass Paypal issue. So, from what I see, CREEP is stirring up a bunch of CRAP without checking the facts. CREEP makes statements like "Whoa...already getting a bunch of emails.... please.. " like 555th is some scam artist or something. I wonder if CREEP is familiar with the words slander and defamation.. Seems if CREEP is a man, he'll turn the account back on and let 555th defend himself. Calling the state police and fraud unit over a Paypal screw up.....What a bunch of BS AL |
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I really hate to step into this Neck deep but I think AL is very likely correct... I am betting Paypal got a bug up their butts about his account or perhaps the accounts of those that used PayPal to buy gun parts from him.... is that 555th's fault?
I don't think so... 555th has shared a world of knowledge to all of us and has always been one of the good guys.... I really wish 555th was allowed here so we can work through this... what good does locking him out do... it's not like he is a Troll or caused other problems here... Give the man a chance, you would want a chance!!! |
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Fuck paypal dude! They suck. I will never use paypal. I have heard of a few that paypal has screwed over. I wish this board would set up a normal way of using a CC for a membership. Using paypal is the #1 issue I have never joined.
Hope this issue get worked out Samuel |
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Jeepcreep is as good as they come,I've delt with him on several occasions and I've met him personally,hes a great Guy.From reading his account,I don't blame him for locking the Guys account,after all,he has a responsibility to keep con artists out and to protect the members.I don't understand why his e-mails were ignored by 555th,but if this is a mis-understanding and the result of Paypal getting pissy about gun parts,Jeepcreep will make it right.I spoke with him earlier tonight,not about this,and he'll be volunteering much of his weekend,loading up trucks for the New Orleans Relief.So be patient,he'll respond when he gets a chance.
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Please give 555TH a chance! PLEASE!
I talked to him! He wants to make it right! Lets all take a breather and not point fingers too much at any party. |
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BTW:
For those of you who do not know the nightmare of Paypal. Gunco had PP and we got froze, DPH got froze, Atlantic got froze, Blackjack got froze. I know a few individuals who had PP got froze after PP found out they used PP to buy gun parts. PP sucks and they have done other bad things to people weren't even doing gun stuff. Paypalsucks.com |
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I told ORF Shooter in an IM I would give this guy until Tuesday to straighten things out, with Blazenet. Me ...I have already written the money off. If there is a problem with paypal, it isn't me. Currently my Cash balance there is over $1,200. my account isn't frozen. I have heard atleast 3 different stories as to what is going on, out of respect to the people who IM'd me in confidence, and people's family I will not drag it out in public.
As a member of this or any other firearm's board, we have the responsibility to keep the EE as a safe harbor for our members. I think we all have been here long enough to remember a "GREAT GUY" that worked out of a chicken coup in Oklahoma. Again, if this guy makes things right with Blazenet by Tuesday, I will drop my claim. ....but he is gone from ARFcom. |
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Fair enough JeepCreep. I know running a board is difficult.
I hope I haven't caused you too much harm. |
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+1 I have had two accounts locked up & one was only a month or two old and had less than 50 transactions. My first account took YEARS to get caught and THOUSANDS of transactions. I think paypal is really making a effort to go after people. Also if you do get caught its not as simple as just getting your account closed. They will also lock up ALL your funds in it for up to 6 months. I have heard people ge it sooner but Im still waiting. Sorry to hijack the post just want to warn people. I hope it all works out. |
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I think this thread needs to simmer awhile. At least until Tuesday.
There is a significant amount of money involved and it needs to be resolved. |
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As I understand, 555th has spoken to paypal and the verification issue is now fixed or being fixed.
He also told me and others too that he does not care to send out money orders if that's what the people want. Remember he was gone all weekend to the shoot and has worked about 70 hours this week. as i see it, the outstanding issues are: 1. the bakelite mag 2. the polish & tantal kits anything else???????????????????????? I tell you how honest of a person I think 555th is. If by Tuesday the paypal mess isn't straightened out, I will pay for any outstanding items and I will collect from 555th. |
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Al,
There is one outstanding issue. Blazenet is out $590. As stated above, I have written mine off. Nothing against your friend, but as a staff member I have stewardship of this board, and the members. If people can't feel safe they won't use the EE plain and simple. This isn't directed towards you or him, just ask K1196A (Josh). He and I have been on different sides of the argument, but when he was screwed over on a deal by a member on gunsnet, I went after the person (who happened to be a member here as well) in the same manner I am going after this guy. Conley Sluss claimed that there was a SR, Jr, 2 different people, along with other excuses...I don't care, I don't deal in excuses, only results. Believe it or not if you were in Blazenet's position, I would go after the guy just as tough. The EE is based on trust and honor here. The seller has the obligation to deliver the product that is promised as described in a timely manner, and the buyer has the obligation to make sure the seller is compensated. I will be more than happy to show the email, and tell you about the conversation I had with "Frank" at PayPal, but the Readers Digest version is in 2 words unauthorized funds. Again I do not want excuses, only results. |
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Edited, I'm very upset over this. I retract my post as to not inflame the situation. KF asked everyone to simmer down and I should know better. My post was not insulting, but I guess it could inflame a bad situation more.
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I'm going to defend Curt here and this is what he sent me today. I'm very distraught that this got to the point it did. Not to sound like an ass, but this could happen to anyone including me or one of the mods here. I really think people jumped too hard and given what has gone on I can see why in some way with earlier con artist around here.
I don't know what to say...... I'm very confused and angry.... I like ARF and it has been a second home to me, but.... I dunno....l I have a bad taste in my mouth now. Remember, Paypal will screw you hard, they did me before. All of this below is what Curt sent me. Jeff, Thanks for trying to help me out at arf.com. I have talked to paypal and can get nowhere but to have them "verify" my CC. This should take 2-3 business days. here is there reason I copied from their website. it does not say unauthorized accont of anything like what Jeepcreep is saying. PayPal is constantly working to ensure security by regularly screening the accounts in our system. We recently reviewed your account, and we need more information to help us provide you with secure service. Until we can collect this information, your access to sensitive account features will be limited. We would like to restore your access as soon as possible, and we apologize for the inconvenience. Why is my account access limited? Your account access has been limited for the following reason(s): # Aug. 31, 2005: Our system detected unusual charges to a credit card linked to your PayPal account. (Your case ID for this reason is PP-102-205-084.) ;;;;;;;;;;; Unusual charges!!!!!!!! Gunparts!!!!! My card has beev charged with no problems on my CC end, Here is a copy of my online CC statement. I also sent this to the two people involved but they don't seem to care. they still want to flame me. I talked to the guy I bought the kits off of on the phone and he was pissed at ME. I told him I would send him a PMO if this paypal didn't get resolved soon, but he was still pissed.here is the statement as off today: $6,400 $5,038 $1,500 $1,500 $1,361.81 Amount Over Revolving Credit Line Past Due Purch/Adv Minimum Due Minimum Amount Due $0.00 $0.00 $28.00 $28.00 Transactions Click on any column heading to sort or on dollar amount for transaction details. Sale Date Post Date Reference Number Activity Since Last Statement Charged To Amount 07/28 07/28 R7024662 ELECTRONIC PAYMENT-THANK YOU -100.00 08/12 08/12 R4697632 ELECTRONIC PAYMENT-THANK YOU -1,200.00 08/01 08/01 4J1TQ400 AMZ*Amazon Payments AMZN.COM/BILL WA Standard Purch 26.45 08/23 08/23 4MCYPCWP PAYPAL *TOM1263 402 935 7733 CA Standard Purch 452.40 08/25 08/25 YZR34FWP PAYPAL *H2OFOWLR 402 935 7733 CA Standard Purch 63.85 08/25 08/25 YP8PWWVP PAYPAL *BLAZENET 402 935 7733 CA Standard Purch 590.00 08/26 08/26 00000000 PURCHASES*FINANCE CHARGE*PERIODIC RATE Standard Purch 12.81 Statement Messages *** CITI AADVANTAGE MILES UPDATE *** Miles Accumulated This Billing Period: 1,133 Earned Miles: 1,133 Miles Reported To American Airlines: 1,133 Remember, with a no-preset spending limit you now have more financial flexibility. But you MUST PAY IN FULL any charges over the revolving credit line indicated. NEVER PUT YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER ONLINE AGAIN. Virtual Account Numbers gives you a random number to use in place of your Citi card number for every online purchase - it's easier than ever - and free. Get started today at www.virtual33.citicards.com Account Summary Previous Balance (+) Purchases & Advances (-) Payments & Credits (+) FINANCE CHARGE (=) New Balance PURCHASES $1,516.30 $1,132.70 $1,300.00 $12.81 $1,361.81 ADVANCES $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00 TOTAL $1,516.30 $1,132.70 $1,300.00 $12.81 $1,361.81 Rate Summary Days This Billing Period: 030 Balance Subject to Finance Charge Periodic Rate Nominal APR ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE PURCHASES Standard Purch $950.69 0.04493%(D) 16.400% 16.400% ADVANCES Standard Adv $0.00 0.05888%(D) 21.490% 21.490% Contact Information Please see account Terms & Conditions Mail Payments To: Citi Cards P.O. Box 183037 Columbus, OH 43218-3037 - Make check or money order payable in U.S. dollars on a U.S. bank to Citibank. Include account number on check or money order. No cash please. To report billing errors, write to this address or complete the online form. Calling will not preserve your rights. P.O. Box 6035 The Lakes, NV 89163-6035 Contact Us for Customer Service Translate Statement Terms This whole mess is paypal's fault, I did nothing wrong and will make all things right. My CC is in excellent standing ( not stolen ) as has been said. He said he's been trying to get a hold of me with no replies!!! I emailed him the very next day!!! Paypal did this on the 31rst of Aug. I emailed him the next day and I can forward that to you if you want. sorry for the LOOONNNGGGG PM , but I thought you might want to see some Facts. thanks, Curt |
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I have similar concerns as Al said, but I cannot puts words together because I've been livid all day over this. |
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[standing ovation]Bravissimo...Bravissimo! HillbillyAL! your soliloquy can only be rivaled by Hamlet!...next time to win the internet award for the best solo artist try crying the expression....They drew first blood, not me
I think that 555th is very lucky to have someone like you to help him out. I applaud you for making good on the debt due Blazenet. Yes you have offered to pay me, but I have refused payment from you. You do not owe me anything. I will get payment, or my product back from the individual who is responsible. Trust me, I will. Facts: My notification from PayPal. Dear Xxxxx Xxxxxxx, It has come to our attention that you may be the recipient of unauthorized funds. We have initiated an investigation into this event. In the meantime, we have placed a hold on the funds in question until the investigation is complete. This hold will show as a deduction in your available balance. In the meantime, you are free to continue transacting using your PayPal account. eta ie No problem with my PP account Transaction Date: Aug. 24, 2005 13:55:02 PDT Transaction Amount: $63.85 USD Payor's Email: [email protected] If you have not delivered the goods or services related to this transaction, we ask that you delay or stop delivery until our investigation is complete as you may be liable for the amount in question. To assist us in our investigation and to determine if you qualify for the Seller Protection Program, please send an email to [email protected] with the following information: 1. The item, service or purpose of the purchase, and the associated value; 2. The name and address given to you by the sender (if an item was purchased); 3. If shipped, the company used for shipping, date of shipment, and tracking number for the shipment; 4. Details of any other transactions related to the transaction(s) in question; 5. A phone number where you can be reached during the day and evening; and 6. Insurance information, if applicable. Any additional information you have regarding this transaction, such as email correspondence, will further help us to expedite our investigation. Solving these cases helps us continue to offer PayPal as a secure and cost-effective payment service. We appreciate your cooperation and assistance. Sincerely, PayPal Account Review Team After I received this I got ahold of PP on the phone, after an eternity on hold, I spoke with a very helpful agent named "Frank". He was the individual who told me about the CC issue, and basically I was screwed because I didn't have a signed receipt for the package. Even though I have a USPS delivery confirmation, that wasn't good enough. eta: I have filed all the paperwork with them anyway. I did a search to see if this person, had bought or sold anything else, there were 3. Myself,Blazenet, and another. The third person was paid fine, just Blazenet and myself remained. I contacted Blazenet, and he told me he received the same notification, and has not received any response from 555th. Remember I can see when people have logged in, or attempted to. Also the email attached to this ARFcom account bounces back as a bad email account. I sent also IMs. He logged in twice after they were sent. On September 1 I received the follwing response from 555th AFTER I locked his account. Thanks for flaming and banning me. You are dead wrong about me ripping anyone off. I have read the sticky you posted about me. My Credit Card (not stolen) has been charged by paypal for the purchases I have made. I went to my paypal account and had to verify my phone number just now. I think paypal has fucked things up again. I have been working 16 hour shifts since the hurricane hit and haven't had much time to check emails or much else. I still don't have any notice from paypal saying that they aren't going to pay. I copied a part of my online CC statement and you can see that paypal has charged me. then the same stuff ORF posted Followed by: "You can see that you have been paid, so try and flame paypal not me. " NOT I will look into this, NOTThere is a mistake NOT I will make it right, only shift the blame to someone else. Now for the jig kits By my second post I had received 2 IMs One about the kits, one about the jig kits. 4th post is where they come out. At this point, I remembered a board member who got burned on a jig kit out of KY, right as he returned from Iraq. I tried to contact him, with no luck. Follow the posts where the original accuser said he was mistaken. I didn't even know this guy made a jig kit, until I was told he did, and that any issues he had were taken care of. (I was unaware that he built a kit, or had issues until his "friends" brought it up in their emails.) Now in summary, We have 2 people that did not receive payment from this person, NEVER once did he email, and say he would make it good, or return the product... did he? He said the problem was with PP, not him. His friend had to make it good. |
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ABSOLUTELY!...the person who is at the center has yet to email me or (to my knowledge) Blazenet, and accept ANY responsibility! |
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Thanks Jeep for all your help in getting this resolved. I have received full payment on 555th's behalf
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You know, I joined this board hoping to meet some new people, make some new friends. I hoped to share what little bit of AK knowledge I had with outher members, I hoped to learn from them too...
that being said.. Well, looks like you are FULL OF SHIT!! you started this crap, pretending you were saving ar15.com from some great scam artist. you have still failed to produce JACK SHIT other than the Paypal mistake for you and Blazenet. You lied concerning all other claims, but yet you want to hide behind your Mod status...555th is twice the man you'll ever be, you know why, he has told me he was wrong before, something you seem incapable of doing. "Whoa...already getting a bunch of emails.... please.. email me all the specifics, date, payment method,his email addy everything you can. The Detective and myself already have his ISPs. We have a Detective with the Kentucky State Police internet crimes department who is involved. I guess some people don't realize that once you involve the US Post Office, it becomes a FELONY...." WHERE ARE THEY??? YOU ARE WEAK....ADMIT IT!!!! I will forgive you, so will everyone else, including Curt. You can do it, stand up, be a MAN... |
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Al,
You really do amuse me.... In your very short time here.... you have proved exactly nothing, other than you have a worship fixation on this Curt guy. You didn't come here to make friends...you came here to save Curt. You joined just a couple days ago. Member Since :: 9/1/2005 My cause in this matter is complete, Blazenet has his $600, and the guilty is gone. I am not sure how this great "scam artist" thing came up, nor am I hiding behind any "Mod Status", I am very open about my dealings. The Internet detective with the KY police department is a mod here, contact him if you wish. If it was about me, I would have taken your offer to bail him out. Are you asking me to throw all the dirty laudry from your, and Curt's other friend's email on the internet? I really don't think that is what you or he wants. |
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Al,
Tomorrow when you sober up, we can pick this up....and THANKS for running to the post office at midnight...just for me! |
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...let's back up some buttercup,
from my post at 10:49
That is where your kits issue came up, I had no idea this guy was the Mother Teresa of the AK kit builders world, until it was pointed out. BTW...if he did "pay" for the mag, why did he have you run out at midnight and return it? |
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