ABNAK Wrote:
"If Arsenal Inc. can't make a flawless product (it's an AK, for Godssakes!), then where are we to turn?"
There actually is quite a bit involved in making an AK rifle (or most any rifle for that matter). Many just think of gun making as assembly, but those parts you assemble did not just appear out of mid air.
When it comes to just Arsenal Inc's receiver alone, we are talking the correct steel to be used (as per their specs), then there is the forging of that steel, there is all the milling (which needs to be more precise than most would think), there is the heat treating, there is the phosphating, the assembly and fitting of all the other components onto the receiver, the final black paint finish application, and all this is just a rough idea of what all needs to be done. Of course, there are also all the other parts that get mounted onto the gun, and they all go through whatever processes they need before being complete and ready to go. When we are talking production items, companies expect a certain amount of returns from minor, and yes, even major defects. This company has proven themselves in the past 3-4 years as being able to produce a very good product. With that said, even the best of the best will churn out an occasional fluke from time to time.
It can be made by Rolex, Mercedes Benz, Howard Miller, MI Hummel, Sony, Whites, or any other high quality name brand production company (including Arsenal Inc), and sooner or later the occasional fluke slips out. Words like.... service dept, warranty service, guarantees, and such, would not still exsist if things never went wrong. As far as production AK's go, these are high quality production items, and like any other product, things like this will occur. Even the AK's that are built individually by gunsmiths, and that are considered more as custom guns (and which usually involve more time and effort in making), occasionally slip out with the rare problem. These guns are made by humans, and mistakes will happen.
I hate to admit this, but I have actually made mistakes in my life as well.......maybe only once.........but it does happen........LOL!!;)
Three to four years (?) making these SAM series rifles, with thousands already on the market, and the most common problems one will hear about them are those that are non serious (usually being very minor or something asthetic).
We have a fellow board member here (Templer) that has sold quite a few Arsenal Inc SAM series rifles through his shop, and he will confirm that Arsenal Inc rifles rarely go back for repairs. When they do, it's usually very minor stuff that they need done. I've also many years at gun shops in the past, and can tell you that if your in the business long enough, you will see defect returns from "ALL" gun manufacturers. I mean damn, Arsenal Inc is very good, but they are not GOD!!! LOL!!
I know of other brands making or offering AK guns (without mentioning any names), and I would think they would suck a D**K to have the consistancy that Arsenal Inc has been able to offer the public. Again, with that said, I can't imagine them or any other gun manufacturer being perfect every single time. Low warrantee return ratio..........yes, that is what they have been doing. No warrantee returns.......ever.........I don't believe we will see that.........not as long as people make mistakes :)