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Posted: 12/22/2003 11:01:20 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm no Maadi expert, but I do believe all of the ARMs are of post-ban status, FWIW.
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Posted: 12/23/2003 12:26:31 AM EDT
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We need to know who the importer is? That is the deciding factor JD.
Wes: Steyr Maadi's are also marked ARM. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 3:22:30 AM EDT
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is it an a. c. intrac import? if so, it is a post '89 ban variant, as are the pars and century imports.
only the steyr imported misr's (akm's) are pre '89 ban rifles. your maadi probably carries a date code (2-digit year) stamped inside an odd looking symbiol. this may be located on the left side of the rear sight base or in front of the mag well opening on the underside of the receiver. your furniture and grip (laminated and brown) sound like a pre-ban maadi would have been wearing. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 4:38:37 AM EDT
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Look on the right side of the receiver, about equal to the magwell. If it sez STEYR, SECAUCUS,NJ...bingo, if it sez something else...postban.
The AC serial number sounds like a post gun, the pre serial numbers were like "S0000XXXX" Even though it might be a post gun, all hope is not lost. It is still a very fine shooting gun! IMHO as good as Chinese...check those markings and let us know... |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 5:38:42 AM EDT
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if it has the barrel nut it is probably pre-ban...unless someone did a barrel change on it.
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Posted: 12/23/2003 5:56:52 AM EDT
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Not necessarily....the early ones had a threaded barrel.
The tell-tale is the importer markings on the right side. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 10:09:54 AM EDT
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My Maadi has ACC INTRAC KNOX TN EGYPT on the right side of the receiver and it has an 85 in the rear sight block on the left side inside an odd shaped design.
The barrel is threaded with a slant muzzle device and when you get close to the final threads, you have to push in on a metal rod or pin to lock the slanted muzzle brake in place. I was told at the time he bought it in the late 80's, but then again, he might have had the barrel changed out do you suppose? The bayo lug appears to have been made so you can't attach a bayonet to it and that's why I was curious if he swapped out the barrel to get the slant muzzle device, why wouldn't he have kept the bayo lug? I can just barely get a bayo to attach, but it will come off easily with very little effort. Thanks for everyone's help! I hope to get some more info on whether this is a pre or post ban. Thanks a lot! JD |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 10:36:16 AM EDT
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Fistpoint, thanks for clearing that up! JD, see Campy's post above regarding ACC Intrac imports (definitely post-ban). I doubt the bbl. has been swapped, the bayo lugs weren't all ground completely off when these were made into "sporting firearms" and threaded muzzles on some Maadi's and Norinco post-ban AK's are fairly common. Most originally had some sort of muzzle nut tack welded in place. (now for the bad news, on post-ban rifles, the threads are legal so long as they're permanently covered, meaning whatever kind of muzzle brake you prefer needs to be welded in place so you can't attach an "evil" flash hider) |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 10:46:50 AM EDT
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Its just bad electro penciling....that is a 95...it is a postban. but still a fine rifle. It is worth about $350~400 in my AO. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 10:59:34 AM EDT
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Thanks guys! I was thinking that if it was a postban that he must have swapped out a preban barrel in order for it to have the plunger stud for the slant muzzle brake to lock in.
Do the postbans have the push in button or rod for the slant muzzle brake? As far as the date of 85, it is really a bad etched number that is very hard to read even under a magnifying glass and bright light. It sure looked like it was 85, but it's probably a 95. So, if this is a postban, I need to have the brake welded on? Do I have to change the furniture too? It's the laminated wood with regular plastic pistol grip. Thanks again! JD |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 11:11:44 AM EDT
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Yes, I have one identical to it. Plunger....etc..
You need to make sure that you have 5 US made parts on it. Fire Control Group (3 parts), gas piston, and pistol grip, will keep you in legal configuration. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 12:01:12 PM EDT
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Ok, is there anyway I would know if my parts are U.S. parts or not, or should I just order the U.S. parts and be safe about it? Is the gas piston marked with identifying marks?
Also, who do you recommend for the parts, TAPCO? Thanks... JD |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 12:23:40 PM EDT
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The p grip will be stamped USA. Get a RedStar FCG group, a couple extra $ but worth every single cent! As far as the gas piston, a US gas piston will have 3 grooves instead of 2.
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Posted: 12/23/2003 1:03:15 PM EDT
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Thanks for all your help! I think I read somewhere about a better US made trigger control group with a much better trigger.
I like this AKM a lot, but was curious about whether or not it was what I was told it was. I'll be ordering my parts ASAP! I'll also have my gunsmith spotweld the slanted brake for me. Thanks for everyone's help! JD |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 2:25:36 PM EDT
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i'll bet you that "85" is a "95" under a magnifying glass. that is the year of import.
the best fire control parts in the world are those made by www.redstararms.com . you can buy them thru sportsmans guide, midway and brownells. |
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Posted: 12/23/2003 4:09:06 PM EDT
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I went and dug mine out of the cave.... S/N AC0068XXX it was bought new by me in the mid 90s. Not too long after I added a real "FinnBear" stock set.... sweeeeet rifle!
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Posted: 12/23/2003 6:00:56 PM EDT
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Maybe someone already mentioned it, but you're gonna need to permanently attach the muzzle device.
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