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Posted: 5/20/2003 7:13:03 PM EDT

my buddy has an sar-1 with his second rsa trigger.The first one the disconnector just sheared off. They were cool and totally replaced it quickly.However we went to the range today(indoor-no rapid fire)and shot the sar-1 with the new rsa trigger.Well it double tapped twice when my friend shot it, I thought he was just shooting too agressive.So he let me shoot it, the first mag went smooth it shot real nice.Popped in the second mag and was half way through it then braaaaaapppp! the damn thing went f/a 5 shots+ until I let go, otherwise I could of cleared the whole mag. Scared the livimg shit out of me! We took the whole fcg out, no visible damage. The staff at the range were a little razzled and demanded to see the internals and we explained what happened and they were appalled.RSA is a great company I NEVER ever heard this happen to anyone on the boards.I just wanted to give everybody heads up because that could of turned into a pretty deadly situation for newbie or someone who has little expirence with semiauto's.Just so you no Im not bashing RSA I think they make awesome products, hell not every ferrari that rolls off the line is gone to perfect, but this is an expirence that you must all be aware of. thank you

Posted: 5/20/2003 9:01:01 PM EDT

[#1]

Did you get in contact with RSA? I'm sure they'll help out with whatever the problem may be.

Posted: 5/21/2003 3:38:31 AM EDT

[#2]

I think you you either have the trigger set too light, or the discon, not tight enough. I would still contact Ken though.

Posted: 5/21/2003 3:43:09 AM EDT

[#3]

Hmm ,the broken disconnector is understandable,
defective parts happen.
But I call BS on the full auto deal.

NO way in hell can an UNMODIFIED semi fcg ,in
an UNMODIFIED semi AK do that .

What did he do , adjust the trigger for a
1 pound pull?

Posted: 5/21/2003 3:53:19 AM EDT

[#4]

556 ain't lying...i had the same thing happen when experimenting with trigger settings on my sar-2.

it was no big deal and everyone smiled and laughed as i burst-fired my way thru a plateshoot match. 5 minutes later, i was back on the line with a properly working rifle.

what i found was, IF you have the disconnector's rear set screw too light the rifle will double or triple because the disconnector is bouncing under recoil and will not re-set.

the cure is simple...turn the setscrew in untill the re-set is reliable.

i found the lowest reliable trigger weight to be right around 2-3/4 lbs., depending on trigger travel settings. i now set my triggers at 3lbs. and as double-stage pulls.

one must remember that each countrys' receivers have the hammer/trigger pivot pin holes in slightly differing locations, and this affects the oem set screw settings/trigger pull.

i have never seen an rsa group (and i've installed many of them and been around dozens more that other guys installed) that came from the factory set up incorrectly. are you certain your friend didn't diddle with the settings?

Posted: 5/21/2003 6:23:24 AM EDT

[#5]

I believe this. I had set my trigger too light in my MAK 90 and it would shoot three shots per trigger pull. After killing my target stand, I tightened it up a bit.

Posted: 5/21/2003 3:02:39 PM EDT

[#6]

223 spree I will send you a free fcg today no questions asked or Yes you can send the rifle to me and I will replace the fcg free and set it any way you want it. As you said S**t happens. We stand behind everything we make and I truly want our people to be happy, I am a old shooter myself and I know what is like to have trouble on the line and in competition. Customers are not trouble to me, they are why we exist. Send me a e-mail and let me know what I can do to help you.

Ken Roberts
President RSA

Posted: 5/21/2003 3:13:01 PM EDT

[#7]

thanks guys I appriciate the info. Special thanks to KenR RedStarArms, you guys have the best customer service on earth!I hope 223spree has better luck this time,because I got 2 ak's that desprately need new usa fcg!

Posted: 5/21/2003 3:14:39 PM EDT

[#8]

thanks guys I appriciate the info. Special thanks to KenR RedStarArms, you guys have the best customer service on earth!I hope 223spree has better luck this time,because I got 2 ak's that desprately need new usa fcg!

Posted: 6/1/2003 3:30:45 PM EDT

[#9]

Here is the Rifle after I finished putting a new fire control system in it. Took the old one out and dropped it in the trash. Better to start fresh. Set it short two stage about 5 lbs. She will run for you now. Will ship Monday. Also, I dropped in a free retainer plate. More for me than you. My labor cost is too much to mess with the "wire.” Let me know how you like it.

Posted: 6/1/2003 3:40:08 PM EDT

[#10]

My labor cost is too much to mess with the "wire.”

lol!!!

Posted: 6/1/2003 5:44:07 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
223 spree I will send you a free fcg today no questions asked or Yes you can send the rifle to me and I will replace the fcg free and set it any way you want it. As you said S**t happens. We stand behind everything we make and I truly want our people to be happy, I am a old shooter myself and I know what is like to have trouble on the line and in competition. Customers are not trouble to me, they are why we exist. Send me a e-mail and let me know what I can do to help you.

Ken Roberts
President RSA

Just when you think it doesn't get anybetter then that, they go and throw in a a FREE retainer plate.

Ken, I'll be purchasing one of your world class FCG's and a retainer plate for my SAR 2 for Fathers Day. You guys are a class act for sure!

Posted: 6/1/2003 6:40:50 PM EDT

[#12]

Thats just too awesome... It's nice to see someone actually stand behind their product like that.

Posted: 6/1/2003 10:04:18 PM EDT

[#13]

I hope mine get here on Monday. ohhh.. I can't wait. I got my weiger mags yesterday. now for the fcg. ooohhh man... I'm jones'n now.

The Pig.

Posted: 6/2/2003 10:14:23 AM EDT

[#14]

Wow I didn`t know if you had got it yet let alone finished the job thanks.Can`t wait to get it back.

Posted: 6/2/2003 12:44:24 PM EDT

[#15]

thanks for do business Ken!!!!!
john

Posted: 6/3/2003 6:17:29 PM EDT

[#16]

WOW that is way cool customer service....I wish every one in the industry was like that...

P.S. All you guy complaining about your FCG having that problem i got one thing to say....Just admit it you know you had fun with it while it lasted...But nobody wants to goto jail..