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Posted: 5/28/2021 8:06:29 PM EDT
[#1]
Cool story bro.
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Posted: 5/28/2021 8:06:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Tempted to sell one. Crazy prices.
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Posted: 5/28/2021 8:18:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: K usa is the only decent usa mfg and their prices are the LOWEST, AND we can buy factory direct. i got a kp9 from them at msrp. I tend to agree with you, but in the long run there is no reason why Century or PSA can't catch up with them (they both do a greater volume of sales). It will be interesting to see where the domestic market is in a few years. Best of luck to you. |
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Posted: 5/28/2021 9:09:38 PM EDT
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I saw a debanned MAK-90 on GB go for $2176 two days ago. Crazy.
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Posted: 5/28/2021 10:06:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tempted to sell one. Crazy prices. I was too. Last month I sold an AK on Gunbroker. I had paid $650 for it years ago. I started the auction at $1,500 with no reserve and was hoping it might fetch as much as $1,800. A guy bought it for almost $2,400.  Most of my AK’s are “never sell” items but at these prices I have one or two more I can definitely live without. 
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Posted: 5/28/2021 10:22:08 PM EDT
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Try Gun Broker saw a vepr side folder go for 3,000 a few nights ago by Kvar of course, that wasn't a bad deal, considering the times.
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Posted: 5/28/2021 10:51:25 PM EDT
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Hmmm... I wonder what Romanian AES10B’s are worth?
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Posted: 5/28/2021 11:12:23 PM EDT
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Don't knock the wasr's. Tbey are side rifles that can take serious abuse... plenty of torture videos on yoytube...
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Posted: 5/28/2021 11:15:06 PM EDT
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I have a FEG SSR-85B that I haven't shot in ages. I wonder what they are going for now . . . hmmmmm . . .
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Posted: 5/28/2021 11:33:37 PM EDT
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I'll sell you a wasr for 1100.
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Posted: 5/29/2021 1:49:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: so...a WASR is $1500, a psa AK thats $999 on the website is $1500+ secondhand, by a user with 3 posts, and any arsenal/bulgy is now $3100 . psa gloriously failed GTs tests and is clearly SOFT in critical areas......WASrs are just old single stacks hogged out for DS mags. the quality/price is not there. do buyers shoot these things @ this rate? i gotta know where these prices came from. K usa is the only decent usa mfg and their prices are the LOWEST, AND we can buy factory direct. i got a kp9 from them at msrp. Most American rifles aren't worth the cost. Imports are typically actually made for foreign militaries so they are quality products. PSA doesn't make anything for the military. As far as GunBroker, look at what people are actually bidding on. Most are reasonable. I see Zastava rifles with bids around 1000-1100 which is close to MSRP at this point. I see most WASR10s for around 1000. You can get an Arsenal for $1800 brand new from K-VAR. Supply and demand is up for the AK market. Especially for imports. Anything from PSA won't have much demand because they just pump out rifles. I wouldn't pay attention to the EE as I doubt they sell at the higher prices. Many of them are sitting for weeks not sold. |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 4:37:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm... I wonder what Romanian AES10B’s are worth? One for sale on GB right now for $2499 I'm not selling mine but I was curious too |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 4:42:08 PM EDT
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Shit, look at those prices. I'm going to trade my WASR-10/63 for a '76 Colt SP1....
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Posted: 5/29/2021 4:43:26 PM EDT
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Conduct code under Specif to Sales;
Companies or individuals interested in selling or trading equipment should resort to the Equipment Exchange. At no time should an item be listed in any discussion forum. This includes links to auctions. dryflash3 |
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Posted: 5/30/2021 7:42:43 PM EDT
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As supply and demand changes, you're seeing what used to be the cheapest alternative for magazine fed, semi-auto rifles become collector's pieces. Most guns aren't actually getting shot much these days, so I can't blame people for pulling stuff out of the safe to make some money.
At a point in the not too distant future, I can absolutely see a wide variety of foreign made AK rifles being in the "you got to pay if you want to play" category. |
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Posted: 5/30/2021 10:54:09 PM EDT
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its wild. my $350 romy SAR-1 will be kept,simoly because i cant sell a romy pos for $1500 to someone, and sleep at night after doing so. its not KAC, its a stamped ak.
i cant get over it. |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 11:00:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: its wild. my $350 romy SAR-1 will be kept,simoly because i cant sell a romy pos for $1500 to someone, and sleep at night after doing so. its not KAC, its a stamped ak. i cant get over it. If people want to pay I have no problem making money. I’ve sold a lot of my lower end rifles and upgraded. |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 4:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: its wild. my $350 romy SAR-1 will be kept,simoly because i cant sell a romy pos for $1500 to someone, and sleep at night after doing so. its not KAC, its a stamped ak. i cant get over it. The most basic tenet of capitalism is voluntary mutual exchange: a voluntary seller and a voluntary buyer making an exchange at a mutually agreed upon price. That basic reality of our economic system interrupts your sleep?? |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 6:17:31 PM EDT
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Only a noob or complete moron would pay these prices for bottom of the barrel AKs. All the dipshit ripoff artists will cry capitalism but they're just upset when people call them on the fact that they're trying to fuck over less educated people who are just getting into guns at a bad time.
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Posted: 5/31/2021 7:19:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only a noob or complete moron would pay these prices for bottom of the barrel AKs. All the dipshit ripoff artists will cry capitalism but they're just upset when people call them on the fact that they're trying to fuck over less educated people who are just getting into guns at a bad time. You make a good point. Prices will stabilize as unemployment benefits and stimulus money ends. Producers will still have high costs for materials, but less buyers, so I anticipate slightly lower prices (and margins). In fact, as people become increasingly hard up for money, we should see a glut of rifles on the secondary market sold as used or near-new. This will force prices down further. The lesson? Wait.... or buy a Saiga.. that's never bad advice! 
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Posted: 5/31/2021 9:48:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2021 11:11:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You make a good point. Prices will stabilize as unemployment benefits and stimulus money ends. Producers will still have high costs for materials, but less buyers, so I anticipate slightly lower prices (and margins). In fact, as people become increasingly hard up for money, we should see a glut of rifles on the secondary market sold as used or near-new. This will force prices down further. The lesson? Wait.... or buy a Saiga.. that's never bad advice! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Only a noob or complete moron would pay these prices for bottom of the barrel AKs. All the dipshit ripoff artists will cry capitalism but they're just upset when people call them on the fact that they're trying to fuck over less educated people who are just getting into guns at a bad time. You make a good point. Prices will stabilize as unemployment benefits and stimulus money ends. Producers will still have high costs for materials, but less buyers, so I anticipate slightly lower prices (and margins). In fact, as people become increasingly hard up for money, we should see a glut of rifles on the secondary market sold as used or near-new. This will force prices down further. The lesson? Wait.... or buy a Saiga.. that's never bad advice! I think it’s a horrible point. It reminds me of the writings (or should I say “rantings”) of radical feminist Andrea Dworkin, who believed that when women have sex with men - even 100% consensual sex - it is always “rape”. Simply by definition. It’s the exact same “logic”. Beware of those who are all too eager to presumably protect other people from themselves. Most of the time the would-be protector’s motivation ain’t that other person. As for future AK prices one thing I’ve learned in the last 20+ years of buying AK’s is that if you don’t like current prices, just wait. Surely prices will go lower in the future!  (In those 20+ years I’ve seen one approximately 18-month period - around 2009/2010 - when AK prices tended to decrease. That’s it. You liking those odds? Especially with real inflation currently trending anywhere between 7% - 13% annually? Over the last 20+ years I’ve been extremely happy I never listened to the people who shouted “Don’t buy now! Prices are too high!” Over any period of time they’ve been dead wrong.) |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 11:25:35 PM EDT
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I’ve got a like new Gordon Tech SLR-100 hiding somewhere. Maybe I should trade it for used corvette.
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Posted: 5/31/2021 11:51:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it’s a horrible point. (In those 20+ years I’ve seen one approximately 18-month period - around 2009/2010 - when AK prices tended to decrease. That’s it. You liking those odds? Especially with real inflation currently trending anywhere between 7% - 13% annually? Over the last 20+ years I’ve been extremely happy I never listened to the people who shouted “Don’t buy now! Prices are too high!” Over any period of time they’ve been dead wrong.) My guess is within three months of the stimulus and unemployment payouts ending, we will see a glut of firearms (and other items) on the secondary market driving down prices. It happens every time there is a crisis and people panic. You may not remember the many times this has happened in the past... but that doesn't mean it won't happen again. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:48:20 AM EDT
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Also: buy a saiga is always good advice!
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Posted: 6/1/2021 7:26:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also: buy a saiga is always good advice! |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 7:33:27 AM EDT
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Quote History Posted By _disconnector_: I have a FEG SSR-85B that I haven't shot in ages. I wonder what they are going for now . . . hmmmmm . . . |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 7:52:16 AM EDT
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Like mentioned i expect the ones imported to fetch even more as time marches on.
The USA mfg. Just can't seem to get their act together with a quality dumpster gun the way commies and socialists do. Seems the best bang for the buck right now on imports is the zastava line. Best collectable seems to be pre 89 followed by a un molested blank canvas saiga. Nope sorry nothing for sale here just a collector that doesn't even like em but is smart enough to have 5. ( AK arms count added for batfe that got the shit job to monitor arfcom today) Wonder just how bad ya gotta screw up to get internet monitor duty? Is that like bus terminal duty? |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 8:44:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As for future AK prices one thing I've learned in the last 20+ years of buying AK's is that if you don't like current prices, just wait. Surely prices will go lower in the future! (In those 20+ years I've seen one approximately 18-month period - around 2009/2010 - when AK prices tended to decrease. That's it. You liking those odds? Especially with real inflation currently trending anywhere between 7% - 13% annually? Over the last 20+ years I've been extremely happy I never listened to the people who shouted "Don't buy now! Prices are too high!" Over any period of time they've been dead wrong.) I've never seen AK prices drop either except in that same period |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 9:04:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: so...a WASR is $1500, a psa AK thats $999 on the website is $1500+ secondhand, by a user with 3 posts, and any arsenal/bulgy is now $3100 . psa gloriously failed GTs tests and is clearly SOFT in critical areas......WASrs are just old single stacks hogged out for DS mags. the quality/price is not there. do buyers shoot these things @ this rate? i gotta know where these prices came from. K usa is the only decent usa mfg and their prices are the LOWEST, AND we can buy factory direct. i got a kp9 from them at msrp. Just to clarify, AKOU extensively tested the GF3 AKs from PSA and they performed fantastically well. Very solid, well built AK's. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:32:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just to clarify, AKOU extensively tested the GF3 AKs from PSA and they performed fantastically well. Very solid, well built AK's. the PSA ak's feature everything i want in an AK....except tough metals and durability. gonna totally agree with GTs -74 review. 5.45 ones need work. ------which is my point...$1500 street price for an Ak That doesnt hold up? might as well get a vast rcvr pioneer arms for way less. ive bumped cases of ammo through my SAR-1 and my front trunion has ZERO rollover, peening, etc. its from 2001. ive tried to make it stop. the only good thing about some noob paying $1300 for a romy is it WILL work for the 30k rnds it was meat to go for. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 12:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: robski....yeahhh i dunno about that guy.. i bought an AK-V....$980 pistol...it was so terrible that i actually got a refund the second time i sent it back. soft parts, bad design, battered itself to pieces in 450rnds. my KP9 had a crooked fsb, that was fixed in 10min with head a wood block and a hammer. everything else is really reminiscent of russian stuff. and its $999. ome of few that i am ok with paying for. i await their 5.45 offerings. i feel they will be the best bang/buck for new stuff. the PSA ak's feature everything i want in an AK....except tough metals and durability. gonna totally agree with GTs -74 review. 5.45 ones need work. ------which is my point...$1500 street price for an Ak That doesnt hold up? might as well get a vast rcvr pioneer arms for way less. ive bumped cases of ammo through my SAR-1 and my front trunion has ZERO rollover, peening, etc. its from 2001. ive tried to make it stop. the only good thing about some noob paying $1300 for a romy is it WILL work for the 30k rnds it was meat to go for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just to clarify, AKOU extensively tested the GF3 AKs from PSA and they performed fantastically well. Very solid, well built AK's. the PSA ak's feature everything i want in an AK....except tough metals and durability. gonna totally agree with GTs -74 review. 5.45 ones need work. ------which is my point...$1500 street price for an Ak That doesnt hold up? might as well get a vast rcvr pioneer arms for way less. ive bumped cases of ammo through my SAR-1 and my front trunion has ZERO rollover, peening, etc. its from 2001. ive tried to make it stop. the only good thing about some noob paying $1300 for a romy is it WILL work for the 30k rnds it was meat to go for. When I hear AK I don't think 9mm so I was referring to PSA's 7.62x39 GF3's. Those guns are as good as any outside of the "elite" AK's. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 1:19:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: quietly. I see what you did there!
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Posted: 6/1/2021 1:25:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I hear AK I don't think 9mm so I was referring to PSA's 7.62x39 GF3's. Those guns are as good as any outside of the "elite" AK's. id rather not be the R&D test dummy for PSA. they really need to not do that to their customer base. gen 3 or whatever it is thats finally good should be the FIRST version we get. they are big boys, they need to test stuff. hell, my bad luck breaks most stuff as it is. no time for "u musta got a bad one" for these prices. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 1:49:31 PM EDT
[#35]
You know, there's a flip-side to selling off AK's and parts right now at these crazy high prices...I sold some things too and could sell more, but with things the way they are in the US right now (big democrat dumpster fire), I'm literally sitting here watching the value of my gun stuff go up, while my dollar bills are worth less and less every day.
Makes me loathe to give up assets which are performing well for shitty American dollars that are worth less than the paper they are printed on. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 8:13:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, there's a flip-side to selling off AK's and parts right now at these crazy high prices...I sold some things too and could sell more, but with things the way they are in the US right now (big democrat dumpster fire), I'm literally sitting here watching the value of my gun stuff go up, while my dollar bills are worth less and less every day. Makes me loathe to give up assets which are performing well for shitty American dollars that are worth less than the paper they are printed on. well said |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 9:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: robski....yeahhh i dunno about that guy.. i bought an AK-V....$980 pistol...it was so terrible that i actually got a refund the second time i sent it back. soft parts, bad design, battered itself to pieces in 450rnds. my KP9 had a crooked fsb, that was fixed in 10min with head a wood block and a hammer. everything else is really reminiscent of russian stuff. and its $999. ome of few that i am ok with paying for. i await their 5.45 offerings. i feel they will be the best bang/buck for new stuff. the PSA ak's feature everything i want in an AK....except tough metals and durability. gonna totally agree with GTs -74 review. 5.45 ones need work. ------which is my point...$1500 street price for an Ak That doesnt hold up? might as well get a vast rcvr pioneer arms for way less. ive bumped cases of ammo through my SAR-1 and my front trunion has ZERO rollover, peening, etc. its from 2001. ive tried to make it stop. the only good thing about some noob paying $1300 for a romy is it WILL work for the 30k rnds it was meat to go for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just to clarify, AKOU extensively tested the GF3 AKs from PSA and they performed fantastically well. Very solid, well built AK's. the PSA ak's feature everything i want in an AK....except tough metals and durability. gonna totally agree with GTs -74 review. 5.45 ones need work. ------which is my point...$1500 street price for an Ak That doesnt hold up? might as well get a vast rcvr pioneer arms for way less. ive bumped cases of ammo through my SAR-1 and my front trunion has ZERO rollover, peening, etc. its from 2001. ive tried to make it stop. the only good thing about some noob paying $1300 for a romy is it WILL work for the 30k rnds it was meat to go for. I didn't know what to think about the PSA AK stuff. I heard negative reviews in the beginning and then heard through the grapevine that they had gotten better with the GF3 version. I bought a GF5 and put about 20 rounds through it. It was very accurate and the ALG trigger was very nice. I sold it along with the AK-P and AK-V which I never shot. I did not lose a single dollar on the deal let's put it like that. I'm very happy to keep my SAM7SF-84E. I have really come to like this rifle. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 10:33:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Good choice on the Sam7sf. I’ve got mine decked out with a master mount, MRO, and an inforce wmlx on the Arsenal railed hand guard.
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Posted: 6/2/2021 7:03:43 AM EDT
[#39]
I cringed a little when I paid a little over $600 for my converted 5.56 Saiga 5-6 years ago and now I'm thinking I made a good choice.
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Posted: 6/2/2021 10:08:19 AM EDT
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These are wild times. There’s a certain desperation in the air, a strong fear of missing out. Applies to more than just AKs.
We always want what we can’t have, or what we think we may not be able to get in the future. This concept is made more acute by social media, because now we are constantly seeing what others have that we want. And now it appears that everyone has the thing I want EXCEPT me. Combine this with a usually false belief that the thing I want is rare or hard to obtain. It’s a perfect storm, and I would argue that traditional free market economics have much less to do with it than people believe. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 11:09:21 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These are wild times. There’s a certain desperation in the air, a strong fear of missing out. Applies to more than just AKs. We always want what we can’t have, or what we think we may not be able to get in the future. This concept is made more acute by social media, because now we are constantly seeing what others have that we want. And now it appears that everyone has the thing I want EXCEPT me. Combine this with a usually false belief that the thing I want is rare or hard to obtain. It’s a perfect storm, and I would argue that traditional free market economics have much less to do with it than people believe. Well said. I am waiting for the bubble to burst... not just for AK's. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 1:25:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Its time to sell my SAR-1
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Posted: 6/2/2021 3:09:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its time to sell my SAR-1 Correct, it is time. *The above represents my opinion, and should not be taken as financial (or other) advice. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 3:26:31 PM EDT
[#44]
Seriously considering letting my Norinco and a couple of HK93s go at these insane levels.
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Posted: 6/2/2021 4:37:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am waiting for the bubble to burst... not just for AK's. Right there with ya. People are so funny, when something is unobtainium and priced at geometrically higher prices than ever before, they can't get enough of it, drop the price of the same thing to historic lows and they won't touch it, wth? They refuse to buy when everything is dirt cheap (and everybody knowledgeable is telling them BUY NOW), then when it's gone through the roof, they want to cry and scream "GOUGING" at the top of their lungs. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 4:41:08 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously considering letting my Norinco and a couple of HK93s go at these insane levels. Sell soon. Once the unemployment checks and stimulus money runs out, you will be competing with lots of destitute people, and you won't get as much. We are already starting to see prices going down on ammo and rifles. You have a short window. *The above represents my opinion, and should not be taken as financial (or other) advice. |
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Posted: 6/2/2021 6:10:42 PM EDT
[#47]
I remember when people were saying an Arsenal was overpriced at $800-900 or WASR's were crap and only worth $200.
I think future prices will be effected by the upcoming Supreme Court ruling on the New York case. The ruling will indicate how the court may lean on other gun rights cases. |
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Posted: 6/17/2021 8:57:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Yet, I have seen people balk over pre-ban AKs with all original accessories being sold for what seem like decent prices............However, i may let one go if prices stay the way they are
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Posted: 6/17/2021 10:08:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Some think thier stuff made out of gold, platinum and wolverine's atomantniim bones.
While there are some deals in the EE, alot of insanity too |
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Posted: 6/17/2021 10:20:23 PM EDT
[#50]
$999 for a psa AK? Shit, I'll sell mine right now for that
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