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Very nice. I'm glad they got away from the screw mount, that was my one big complaint!
Is the model you pictured still AA? It's a bit decieving because they've expanded the hood shroud too. I definitely think one of these could go on my duty rifle... Doc |
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No its CR 123 Ant |
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How much higher does this one sit?
Can you still co-witness with the troy BUIS? If so, is it a lower 1/3? If not, WTF!? |
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It seems a bit longer than the AA model. Or is it just mounted farther forward on the rail? Could you take a complete side profile pic?
I would hate to have to use only a Troy tube so the front arms mount had something to lock onto. |
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I don't know for sure but I think it is actually a little shorter than the 552, the pic seems to suggest that it is mounted farther forward.
Any idea if they will all be 2-tone like that? |
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That is supposed to be for a socom contract so it should be nv compatible. Hmm, it dont look like you are going to be able to change the mount on that, also I thought that it was supposed to be the lenght of a 551 series.
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It looks great, but I've heard the price is going to be outrageous compared to a 552/551 w/LaRue mount.
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LOVE IT!!!
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Spoke with the rep from EOTech at the Modern Day Marine expo at Quantico.
It will hit the street in February AT THE EARLIEST. Its integral mount casues it to sit higher so your sights are in the lower 1/3 (which is a bummer for guys like me who want to use it on a rifle with a folding front sight). You will NOT be able to swap out the mount and put on the GG&G mount that makes it "flush", or lower than the current model. I'll wait to see the price. If it isn't too expensive I'll go with it. If it is crazy, then I'll get the 552 model that takes the AA batteries and put the GG&G mount that I wanted anyway, so it sits lower. |
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I will never buy this as long as it uses ARMS style throw levers. I have enough uppers that interchangability requires LaRue-type adjustable levers.
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Damn!
IIRC, the 552/512 will still have a longer run time. I also really wished they would have went with a single lever LaRue mount. Though the CR123 batteries and raised mount are nice I don't know if the increased price, nearly double from the rumors I've heard, will be worth it for me to switch from my 552. Hopefully the 552 will not cost as much when it gets upgraded this revision. |
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EOTech tried to push for the LaRue or a interanl system, but the ARMS throwlever was spec'd by SOCOM specifically. CR123 batteries it sits about 3/8" higher, much like a build in LaRue mount. differenet electronics and black out internals Price will be higher then a 552 plus LaRue combo... |
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Oh well, I guess you gotta do what Uncle Sugar says since he's the primary customer... |
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NOT FOR ME Well money talks and BS walks....if someone is going to pay you big $$$$ to make the optic a certain way then you'll comply. Heck majority of the LEO/MIL types will by this even though it has the ARMS throw levers. You know this ARMS vs LaRue vs GG&G vs blah blah is like FORD, GM, CHRYSLER its to eachs own. Ant |
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Looks bigger,
Looks heavier, And sure it looks more pricy with 2 ARMS mounts. humm..... |
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SMGLee, or anyone else know if LaRue will be able to make a replacement mount the way this thing is put together?
Jason |
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LT has already started to work on an upgrade mount for the 553. C4 |
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...looks like one of Frankenstein's boots.
(and I'm an EoTech fan) |
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From looking at the pics, can anyone tell me how they are going to open the levers with gloves on?
C4 |
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Run time! what is the damn run time?
I can't believe I'm the first to ask this. |
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well, not going to be taking optics on and off too much under conditions. |
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Around and close to 1000 hours |
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Wait till you hear the price... |
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Understand that operators do not change out optics while engaged in a mission, but the point was that the levers are so far under the mount that you will need a tool (or small fingers) to open them. C4 |
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Increased price+more expensive batteries (in comparison to the AA's)+no option for it to sit lower+less run time than AA's+you guys say it will cost more than a 552 and LT mount=Me getting another 512 or getting a 552 instead of this.
With the front ARMS mount out that far, I doubt you'll be able to hang the front off over the HG anymore. Hope it's small enough now And I'm a big EOTech fan......... WIZZO |
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You won't be able to hang the nose of the EOTech over the HG's like you can with the LT EOTech mount. The 553 is NOT that much shorter than the 512/552. C4 |
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Another strike against the 553... |
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Yep, damnit |
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true... |
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think continuous rail like the MRP, URX or the "SCAR".....this is the wave of the future and the direction the military is heading... not really a problem in their mind. |
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Understand, but not everyone in the Military that will use the 553 will have a continuous rail (and certainly not SWAT units). Put a fixed BUIS (like the LMT) on the receiver and you might have some issues getting to the button quickly. C4 |
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I would also think that there could be some problems, depending on how a BUIS mounts and how many slots it takes up, with having enough room period, not just for turning it on, but for being able to mount it in the first place.
Personally speaking, I think they could have done a little better, but what do I know? WIZZO |
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Interesting. Some things look great, but i agree that the lever, at least from what the pics look like, seem to be tucked in too far. While agree with SMG, and its not too common I take optics on and off, the ability to do so is a good thing. Who knows though, maybe the final product will look different?
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the size of that thing is not that much bigger then the shorter 551 so it is not that big of a problem like it was with the 552 with the long AA batteries.
It is a excellent unit with much improved design.. by the way, rest of the EOTech will continue to be produced.... |
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Hi guys, Any idea what is the weight? lighter or heavier than 552? Thanks
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Heavier the a std 552. due to the raised base and two throw lever.
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No, LaRue is really that much better. |
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Long before LaRue Tactical came along, members that bought ARMS products were considered Gucci. C4 |
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My mistake. It just sounded like people were saying it was about the same size as the 512/552. I was thinking that could be a problem with the dual ARMS mounts. Thanks for correcting me. WIZZO |
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I was disappointed with that decision too. |
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