I havent read here yet about the Elcan.. Im unsure why this has been left out of the mix for scopes comparisons.  Granted the magnification is 3.4x and isnt considered ideal for the ultimate CQB site.. however at 50yds and beyond this scope is awesome, quick, deadly, durable and second to none in my opinion.

With my HBAR I could keyhole at 100 yards with this scope.. We had 16" groups at a stop sign sized  target 800 meters out. No BS!

Elcan should be considered in anyones project.. Just a lil' 411