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Posted: 12/16/2021 5:41:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PalmettoStateArmory]
Palmetto State Armory is pleased to announce the merger of NoDak Spud LLC into the JJE family of companies!
Effective Jan 3rd, NoDak Spud will become a subsidiary of Harrington & Richardson. Mike Wetteland, co-owner of NoDak Spud will become the CEO of the newly reformed H&R. Mike brings over 30 years of experience in the firearms industry to our team. As many of you know, Mike’s attention to detail and passion for Retro AR15’s has helped grow our hobby. NoDak Spud will cease all operations at their Edina MN facility Dec 23rd in order to complete ship outs before the end of the year. NoDak Spud will then be relocated to West Columbia SC. All customers that had backorders and/or were on the interested parties list for retro lowers/parts will be notified by Harlan via telephone or email. All NoDak Spud retro parts will be rebranded as H&R. Most of the other NDS products, such as Ruger rifle sights will still be produced. Please be patient as it will take time to spin production back up. NoDak Spud will continue to field calls and emails until we get the H&R website and staff up and running. PLEASE DO NOT call Palmetto State Armory to place pre-orders or make product inquiries as the customer service staff has not been brought up to speed yet. Please be assured that we will do our best to contact everyone on the NoDak lists to give them the opportunity to purchase H&R retro products. Thank you, -Josiah |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2023 12:50:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Monsterhog]
[#1]
Ignore
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2023 12:52:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: No, but I have some old inventory that needs to be processed so it can go online. No timetable right now. @mike_nds Thanks for the response, is there a website I should watch for them on? I would want to buy 4-5 when they are eventually available. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2023 2:42:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#3]
Team PoS
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Posted: 5/7/2023 2:45:39 PM EDT
[#4]
It's a suppressor, not a bull barrel. Gemtech lists it as 25oz in total, so a bit over a pound. Most of that weight is at the back at the receiver.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2023 3:27:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#5]
Team PSA
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2023 5:46:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#6]
PSA
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Posted: 5/8/2023 5:53:16 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PGT_0673: Yep. Here's my Nodak receiver with Nodak front and rear sights. Had to work on the ID of the front site to fit the 0.925" OD of the Mist shroud and of course inlet the Samson stock to fit a bull barrel but where there's a will, there's a way. This thing weights nada and with a Volquartsen Firefly bolt in it, it shoots CCI Quiets in semi-auto. Quieter than a BB gun. https://i.imgur.com/pp6IfGVh.png https://i.imgur.com/ozADKnkh.png Those B-Team stocks look so good, Ruger should start selling 10-22's with them to help Samson out. Which hopefully would bring the price down, so we don't have to spend $350.00 on them. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2023 11:51:47 AM EDT
[#8]
I got one of the first drop grey H&R commando lowers, and slowly got this XM177 clone built with a slickside H&R upper.
Took awhile between the SBR NFA paperwork, and then committing to the barrel work (John Thomas did a great job cutting down an M4 profile barrel). I decided to go with a 10" barrel, as its a dedicated .22lr upper, which is why it was hard to choose what barrel to start with.  
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2023 2:49:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#9]
pSA15.com
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2023 4:32:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bmwguy]
[#10]
Some HR retro m16a1 and Commando stripped lowers hit the website.
They are black color. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 5:14:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sarge8497]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwguy: Some HR retro m16a1 and Commando stripped lowers hit the website. They are black color. Mike keeps making me spend money  . I know I can stop sometime (dam black rifle disease).Sarge |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 7:12:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PGT_0673: Yep. Here's my Nodak receiver with Nodak front and rear sights. Had to work on the ID of the front site to fit the 0.925" OD of the Mist shroud and of course inlet the Samson stock to fit a bull barrel but where there's a will, there's a way. This thing weights nada and with a Volquartsen Firefly bolt in it, it shoots CCI Quiets in semi-auto. Quieter than a BB gun. https://i.imgur.com/pp6IfGVh.png https://i.imgur.com/ozADKnkh.png You sir have impeccable taste. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 2:06:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Been debating to start a Gothic Serpent type carbine for a while now and even watched Black Hawk Down again the other night so I looked at PSA and what do you know, 723 uppers in stock so I grabbed one (I needed a pencil barrel with the correct FSB, as they were also used back then). Already have a C7 upper, so I'm giving the A1 upper to my buddy so he can finish his m16a1 build
 This is fun |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 2:38:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Long_Live_Don: Been debating to start a Gothic Serpent type carbine for a while now and even watched Black Hawk Down again the other night so I looked at PSA and what do you know, 723 uppers in stock so I grabbed one (I needed a pencil barrel with the correct FSB, as they were also used back then). Already have a C7 upper, so I'm giving the A1 upper to my buddy so he can finish his m16a1 build This is fun You sir are a good friend! |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 3:19:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#15]
Psa15.com
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 3:34:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The DOE is not going to happen anytime soon. That means it IS going to happen eventually? 
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Posted: 5/10/2023 5:56:57 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2023 9:08:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
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Shark15.com
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Posted: 5/10/2023 9:24:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Snake Plissken? I thought you’d be taller
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:26:22 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Snake Plissken? I thought you’d be taller You're taller than me, met you at SHOT, you got me hooked up w/ yer Compact Dagger guy - he just sent me 5 more. TGWLDR hooked me up w/ a grey flat slip ring at JSE, so now I don't have to bug you. Just FYI - the $10 plastic upper I had the bbl in was so tight I had to stand on the FSB to pull the upper off. Your H&R blem slick wasn't nearly so tight. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:03:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bmwguy]
[#21]
Woot!
Grey Commando and M16A2 stripped(both BLEMs) lower posted on website finally! Hurry! EDIT: Grey Commando BLEM is gone. I must have bought the last only. Only Non-Blem commando remain. BLEM A2 Grey still available at this point. |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:12:40 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwguy: Woot! Grey Commando and M16A2 stripped(both BLEMs) lower posted on website finally! Hurry! EDIT: Grey Commando BLEM is gone. I must have bought the last only. Only Non-Blem commando remain. BLEM A2 Grey still available at this point. Finally got my grey commando |
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:25:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: neight]
[#23]
I think I finally picked up a grey un blem A2 for my DK C7.
Update, I got my shipping confirmation so now I’m real stoked. Thanks Mike!! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 4:28:12 PM EDT
[#24]
A2? have yet to see any correct A2 upper. the 711 model doesnt count.
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 6:10:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bdgfate]
[#25]
Sigh. Was on the H&R page until about 5 minutes before the grey commando lowers dropped. By the time I got online again I got one in my cart but it vanished before I could finalize the transaction.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 5:46:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdgfate: Sigh. Was on the H&R page until about 5 minutes before the grey commando lowers dropped. By the time I got online again I got one in my cart but it vanished before I could finalize the transaction. GOT ONE!!!!! Got an email saying they were back in stock. Completed check out in about 2 minutes. Got order #. -Richard |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 8:06:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Yeah I got one too so my watching all day paid off and I turned my frown upside down!
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Posted: 5/12/2023 10:12:01 PM EDT
[#28]
I got one of the Grey Commando lowers.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2023 1:31:22 AM EDT
[#29]
Iv asked a few times and it gets skipped over (not mad at ya), but are slab side lowers at some point going to be offered?
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Posted: 5/13/2023 6:50:04 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreakSe7en: Iv asked a few times and it gets skipped over (not mad at ya), but are slab side lowers at some point going to be offered? Yes, we physically have forgings. No timetable yet. But now that we have the slickside chrome BCG’s it is possible to make rifles. |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 3:31:16 PM EDT
[#31]
I snagged an A1 trapdoor stock last night. That A2 stock on my 20" A3 is so going in the parts box.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 2:03:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#32]
Linemont Taiwan
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 9:22:26 AM EDT
[#33]
Do you think it will reach the point where the A1 rifles are readily available and even in the stores? I want one but I don’t like playing the game and watching a website all day just to learn they’ve sold out in 5 minutes and I’ll have to wait another 3 months for the next chance.
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Posted: 5/14/2023 10:03:29 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DitchDr: Do you think it will reach the point where the A1 rifles are readily available and even in the stores? I want one but I don’t like playing the game and watching a website all day just to learn they’ve sold out in 5 minutes and I’ll have to wait another 3 months for the next chance. Yeah, it's frustrating as all get out but if you want in the game you have to play the game.  I'm still waiting on a gray A1 upper. 
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Posted: 5/14/2023 10:30:30 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DitchDr: Do you think it will reach the point where the A1 rifles are readily available and even in the stores? I want one but I don’t like playing the game and watching a website all day just to learn they’ve sold out in 5 minutes and I’ll have to wait another 3 months for the next chance. In my opinion, Colt, Brownells, and a few others have dropped the ball when it comes to retro. Brownells was into the game, then boom. Colt should have all the tooling. Even present day Armalite could fill the niche. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 2:04:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mikeoutwest]
[#36]
What a shit show
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Posted: 5/14/2023 3:35:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PGT_0673]
[#37]
I built out my blem black Commando lower with a Damage Industries Kit I pulled off a Brownells BRN1 lower. The hammer and trigger pins were looser than I'd prefer so swapped in a Geissele G2S trigger with oversized pins and they fit perfectly snug. (The upper is a black Troy XM177 accessory option they offered when they did their Vietnam series). The stock setup is an original release EA/Doublestar kit with the stock, 2-pos tube, retro ring and spring/buffer.
Need to figure out if I have a spare set of bakelite handguards but this will do for now. There was some color difference in the black upper/lower combo so used some CLP all over the upper and let it sit for a bit before wiping clean. Looks like a much better match now.    
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 9:48:12 PM EDT
[#38]
I was browsing the PSA website and noticed that some lowers have designs on the other side of the magwell. Which would mean it is possible for PSA/H&R can either put the DOD acceptance stamp or the MK18 MOD0 crane logo on the lowers. Mike, would that be something that can be offered? This can also prevent other companies buying up your lowers and marking them up because they added those markings.
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 10:07:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan793: I was browsing the PSA website and noticed that some lowers have designs on the other side of the magwell. Which would mean it is possible for PSA/H&R can either put the DOD acceptance stamp or the MK18 MOD0 crane logo on the lowers. Mike, would that be something that can be offered? This can also prevent other companies buying up your lowers and marking them up because they added those markings. You can buy the DOD stamp online. I got it for my Colt GAU5. PSA isn’t going to bother. |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 11:28:48 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SISTIM7: You can buy the DOD stamp online. I got it for my Colt GAU5. PSA isn’t going to bother. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SISTIM7: Originally Posted By Ryan793: I was browsing the PSA website and noticed that some lowers have designs on the other side of the magwell. Which would mean it is possible for PSA/H&R can either put the DOD acceptance stamp or the MK18 MOD0 crane logo on the lowers. Mike, would that be something that can be offered? This can also prevent other companies buying up your lowers and marking them up because they added those markings. You can buy the DOD stamp online. I got it for my Colt GAU5. PSA isn’t going to bother. https://www.ebay.com/itm/134554533219?hash=item1f54133d63:g:Z98AAOSweMRjE~Pd&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwIpKBNjSUzfKPgGE%2BnllEgrnjQAl5zrbp66dNqEB7YWEa4TtS5HS6DEvugjRQsgD5OYqbFbg%2FObEyHeEx%2FJkRfrQQu2bWMHrJyvSfwOifK79lP9bh5vOTVBI%2BLUolRqNlEywqzNzaELSXBwOiLt8YS8TtLYfxluTYRpBDXjuHNqllPsf1j8l9HQbVyTQK9WACrBzghNXAFiF0pcMSfKkbCPJiuQQsylaMDX%2FXcNyU3QqlU94tKEBK0sWg4K6YgnytA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_Kxj9eDYg |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 11:33:40 PM EDT
[#41]
That would be the one.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 1:24:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
[#42]
Just looking through all the pics in this thread I feel H&R has done more for the retro market than any other company since I have been into guns. Its really awesome to watch. I was not into retro stuff at all. I had one full A1 kit I bought years back and thats it. Now I want them all. Please drop the 935 SBR's already.
Remember us all bitching about availability back in December? |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 6:41:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Yep, as much as we loved Nodak, there just wasn't much product making it out in the way that Mike is doing now with H&R. I don't think I was ever able to buy Nodak AR receivers new...all the ones I have/had were acquired second-hand.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:46:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Gray Commando lowers are up.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2023 4:44:27 PM EDT
[#45]
Stripped xm177e2's are up..
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Posted: 5/16/2023 5:47:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jer10571: Stripped xm177e2's are up.. so whats the difference in the xm177e2 lower and a regular a1 r comando lower oher than markings? i have a lower that is totally flat on one side. looks weird. cant remember how its marked t the moment. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2023 5:50:54 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg: so whats the difference in the xm177e2 lower and a regular a1 r comando lower oher than markings? i have a lower that is totally flat on one side. looks weird. cant remember how its marked t the moment. Markings. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 5:51:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg: so whats the difference in the xm177e2 lower and a regular a1 r comando lower oher than markings? i have a lower that is totally flat on one side. looks weird. cant remember how its marked t the moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg: Originally Posted By jer10571: Stripped xm177e2's are up.. so whats the difference in the xm177e2 lower and a regular a1 r comando lower oher than markings? i have a lower that is totally flat on one side. looks weird. cant remember how its marked t the moment. Commando  XM177E2 
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:01:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grondike: The Commando lowers are partial fence, and the XM177E2 lowers are full fence. Commando https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/h/r/hr51655191922_2.jpg XM177E2 https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/h/r/hr516551639406-2.jpg Snagged one. Now I need two A1 uppers. @mike_nds |
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USA
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:06:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cinderdog]
[#50]
Lowers aren’t much good if they don’t offer stripped uppersnot buying any more till they start selling uppers ,kind of sad the way there doing this
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