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Posted: 1/17/2015 2:52:07 PM EDT
This is a very cool display of weapons used by Jedburgh teams in WWII. The history of these teams is fascinating. I recognize the Welrod pistol, but the folding stock SMG just to the right of the Smatchet has me stumped. It looks like a highly modified Suomi, but the receiver looks shorter - and the trunnion area looks different. The UD-M42 was another interesting weapon. I'm going to have a Jedburgh team in the book I'm working on at present, so am doing research. Can any of the historians here name the weapon? I borrowed these pics off the interweb. I hope they don't mind. I find this fascinating.
The teams were small, they wore uniforms so technically weren't spies, although if the Germans caught them they'd be shot as such, and often included women. 
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Posted: 1/17/2015 3:31:15 PM EDT
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BSA Welgun
"The Welgun was a prototype submachine gun developed by the British irregular warfare organisation, the Special Operations Executive. Although it performed well in tests, it was never adopted, and was produced in small numbers only." 
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Posted: 1/17/2015 3:45:46 PM EDT
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Thanks bud!
 
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Posted: 1/17/2015 4:01:16 PM EDT
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You welcome,Sensei
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:19:33 PM EDT
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And there was also the BSA Experimental Model 1949,"Unusually the weapon lacks a bolt handle, instead it came with an unusual pump action foregrip operated by pushing it forward and then pulling it back, this pushed a bar which pushed the bolt back and cocked the weapon."
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:23:31 PM EDT
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This one,i have no idea what it is,it loocks like a FN FAL but diferent,it as a dudt cover over its right side,as the AR-10...
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:32:24 PM EDT
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This one,i have no idea what it is,it loocks like a FN FAL but diferent,it as a dudt cover over its right side,as the AR-10...
http://2013.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2013/02/15/64015896.png Iirc this is a FAL variant that some country built I can't for the life of me remember who. I'll have to look it up |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:12:56 PM EDT
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And there was also the BSA Experimental Model 1949,"Unusually the weapon lacks a bolt handle, instead it came with an unusual pump action foregrip operated by pushing it forward and then pulling it back, this pushed a bar which pushed the bolt back and cocked the weapon." http://2013.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2013/03/02/13072282.jpg http://40.media.tumblr.com/08432a10c37281850491c63daa409694/tumblr_mx1rymxjF01s57vgxo3_r1_1280.png The interesting thing about the BSA experimental to me is 1.) How futuristic it looks and 2.) That it folds up into a very compact package, similar to the Hotchkiss SMG, but a better design I think. I tried to upload a pic of it folded, but it failed several times.  I'll try and download it again, and upload it again. Magwell folds with mag in it, stock folds over the top. Very cool. THIS in 1943 or '44 IIRC.
Nope - not till 1949. Well, this is why I do research...
Link:http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/68502173514/bsa-experimental-machine-carbine-1949-following |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 8:39:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2015 9:41:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryVery interesting website, Morg. Thanks for putting up that link. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 10:40:36 AM EDT
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This one,i have no idea what it is,it loocks like a FN FAL but diferent,it as a dudt cover over its right side,as the AR-10...
http://2013.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2013/02/15/64015896.png Franchi LF-59 
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Posted: 1/18/2015 10:53:16 AM EDT
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This one,i have no idea what it is,it loocks like a FN FAL but diferent,it as a dudt cover over its right side,as the AR-10...
http://2013.uploaded.fresh.co.il/2013/02/15/64015896.png Franchi LF-59 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/villafuego/016rid.jpg THANK YOU!! Geeze I went right to it in the book after I read this post. You have no idea how much that was bugging me last night. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:29:16 PM EDT
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Thank you Villafuego and Aeneas2020,that is it.
The FRANCHI LF58 Carbine and the FRANCHI LF59 Assault Rifle Guns Review, Vol. 11, No. 4, April 1971 
The American Rifleman, Vol. 114, No. 7, July 1971 
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Posted: 1/18/2015 1:36:23 PM EDT
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Morg308,sorry for hijacking the thread.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 2:11:57 PM EDT
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Morg308,sorry for hijacking the thread. You're kidding right? Cool stuff!
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Posted: 1/18/2015 7:31:06 PM EDT
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Yeah. Way cool stuff.
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