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Posted: 12/1/2007 5:43:36 AM EDT
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 The Stealth 12.0 is plug & play.  |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 6:15:46 AM EDT
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Personally, I think Denny's 12.5" Operator barrel is one of the top choices.
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Posted: 12/1/2007 8:46:30 AM EDT
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May as well go first rate if you are doing it. I recently had a talk with John about his 12.5, and I tend to think its just about the magic length. If you get one from John, you know that its done right, and with the highest quality parts and attention to detail. |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 10:22:36 AM EDT
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Well I didn't ask in the first place but to keep from getting recommendations and then running out to look at them and then coming back with questions, please state the stats of your choices and reasons.
Stats like sight options, profile, etc. Barrel twist is a given at 1:7 i'd think. Pictures of profiles will help because I don't have that all straight in my head. Thanks so far! Oh, and for sure prices would be great! |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 10:43:55 AM EDT
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noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=b125g556&cat=62&page=1&search=&since=&status=
 12.5" Crusader 5.56mm Barrel Group --1 in 7 inch twist improved polygonal rifling --5.56 Noveske Match Mod 0 chamber --Carbine length gas system --Extended feed ramps --1/2x28 TPI muzzle threads --Bead blasted finish --Pinned Low Profile Gas Block (Standard) --5.56mm shot peened MP tested bolt --Carbine length gas tube --Gas tube retaining pin Underlined areas are my own thoughts on things that stand out from others. |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 11:15:32 AM EDT
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The first two items are good Stick. But if you'd read
 I put that I will be using an VLTOR flip up FSB/GB (actually I've got an email in to you too...)And I have a carrier with an MP tested bolt... I do like the polygonal rifling. |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 11:26:37 AM EDT
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Plug and play as in a complete upper? |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 12:23:13 PM EDT
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Its available without bolt, and probably without the block if you call Noveske. Its not cheap, but its a matter of what you are looking for, and what your needs are.
I misunderstood your above part.....  ETA- Check your email. |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 12:37:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2007 12:56:16 PM EDT
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Yep. Complete & ready to go. I'll let others chime-in regarding the quality and accuracy... 
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Posted: 12/1/2007 12:58:45 PM EDT
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Off Topic a bit, where to buy and how much for the MK 79 MOD 2 flare pen and mount? 
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Posted: 12/1/2007 1:02:45 PM EDT
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Actually, yes. The folks a checkpoints in-theater requested those, giving them the ability to shoot a gov't-issue Mk-31 flare at non-stopping traffic, as part of their "escalation of force protocol"...if the vehicle doesn't stop...they have a weapon ready to unleash hell. Good thing to have. ETA: product link |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 6:21:53 PM EDT
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All ready for an OPS can. The gas port is 1" forward from the CAR position.
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Posted: 12/1/2007 6:23:49 PM EDT
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That is a REALLY good idea. I have had that exact problem and you can't function the flare launcher and the rifle at the same time. |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 7:12:48 PM EDT
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Goddamnit steve. Specs please. You will have to take the 10.0 and MUR-1 upper I bought from you on trade if you want me to buy an upper and barrel like that from you. I sold IAN my old 16" DMR WOA barrel. PM me a total price I'd have to send you with the 10.0 and MUR. The MUR has a slight hickey from a Larue mount but other than that, both excellent condition. Let me know. ETA: I'm assuming it's a 10" VIS. I also have an 11.5" BCM to sell... |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 9:21:01 PM EDT
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Steve made my 12.5 for an OPS can. Came out great, and looks really good with the Stealth upper.
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Posted: 12/1/2007 9:27:27 PM EDT
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Who makes LaRue's barrels?
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Posted: 12/2/2007 8:00:35 AM EDT
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Lothar Walther |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 8:15:00 AM EDT
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I have a Dennys GTS operator barrel. I wanted the long lasting chrome but if I did it over again I would have done a Larue Stealth upper as I ended up using everything but their barrel anyways.
Here is my GTS build- 
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Posted: 12/2/2007 9:20:41 AM EDT
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I'm mostly interested in a barrel. I've got a MUR-1 I'd probably use and I have handguards I can't give away that I'll probably use.
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Posted: 12/2/2007 11:33:46 AM EDT
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Wilson 16" stainless Rock River barrel, cut to 12.5" and re-contured to .700" under the rail.
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Posted: 12/2/2007 12:23:34 PM EDT
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No thanks. I won't buy RRA anything after their M4 cut BS awhile back. |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 1:19:58 PM EDT
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hack saw?
 but i doubt thats legal |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 1:45:12 PM EDT
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Kind of a silly thing to discount an entire company and line of products over. |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 2:42:24 PM EDT
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I wouldnt touch the stuff either. Its personal preference but I dont buy them anymore after having a upper combo with ramps that didnt match for shit. One of the uppers I had also was apparantly way out of spec because I couldnt get a Larue mount to go onto if for anything(but it would go on 2 other uppers in my possession without problem) It just seems like they tend to be lower quality to me so thats why I dont consider them when looking. But adco and others seem to do just fine with them |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 4:01:42 PM EDT
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Sorry but my "morals" are not silly to me. I bought a nice lower of theirs from Pete many years ago and it was great. But then I saw what they did with ramps just to get into the M4 ramp craze. I've got too many other choices to go with. There is absolutely no need to go with them again. None at all. |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 4:14:51 AM EDT
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 Noveske 12.5" DiamondBlack-coated stainless steel barrel 1x7" Vltor VIS-2 MSTN built. I love it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 4:38:17 AM EDT
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Call me crazy but I don't think not liking RR because of their feed ramps rates as a "moral" issue. Second, the barrel is made by Wilson, not RR. I bought it from RR but they can be had from many different vendors. |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 8:35:08 AM EDT
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They butchered ramps and put out crap just to jump onto the gravy train. That's a bad business ethic and I won't subscribe to it or be a part of it.
If I don't get a Noveske with polygonal rifling it will be a LaRue or one of Denny's. I've had a WOA 16" middy and the Wilson is probably the last on my list... Thanks though. I like your rifle and may pursue that VIS. |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 8:47:39 AM EDT
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Here's my 12.5" Noveske
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Posted: 12/3/2007 9:37:31 AM EDT
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you VIS guys are really killing me.
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Posted: 12/3/2007 1:20:24 PM EDT
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Tag for info.
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Posted: 12/3/2007 1:26:47 PM EDT
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Do you get custom gas tubes made, or just cut down and reform longer ones?
Me too. At a more reasonable price they could sell a lot of them. As is I'm just waiting to see what happens with SCAR and Masada pricing. |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 1:27:48 PM EDT
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yes |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 11:50:25 PM EDT
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Then don't look at this one. 
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Posted: 12/4/2007 6:00:24 AM EDT
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So you finally found what you were looking for eh? I've rummaged through so many threads and found you looking for the same thing!
I've already got the exact lower setup but would have KAC flip ups... |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:01:13 AM EDT
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UPSguy:
That appears to be a 12.5" bbl in a VIS-2A (10") rail, with a surefire 556AR suppressor adapter I didn't think that combo would work as you need (according to Surefire) 2.75" of BBL. What's up??? |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:04:18 AM EDT
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Probably some custom cutting on Steve's part
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:14:18 AM EDT
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No custom cutting on Steves part. Just a mislabed VIS, I mean super rare only one of its kind never to be duplicated bet you wish you could have one just like it 9" VIS.
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:15:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:17:09 AM EDT
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Actually you saw this listed on my EE thread. |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:31:26 AM EDT
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didn't see the post above.
didn't count the holes, either. |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 7:16:27 PM EDT
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Neat. What's the minimum? Have you considered putting the "intermediate" length (the Vltor gas system for 18" barrels, like 10.5" gas length) into production? Seems there might be as much of a market for that length (for 18" and even 16-17" barrels, especially for the 3gun shooters) as for the 12.5" barrels. </hijack> |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 7:35:05 PM EDT
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IIRC the intermediate gas system was meant for use as a mid length when Eric Kincel worked at KAC, but the Armalite midlength became the standard.
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Posted: 12/4/2007 7:42:52 PM EDT
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Thought I saw you looking for stuff in a few more threads besides that one I kept asking you about Not quite sure on where you want to mount your sling huh?
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