User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 9/9/2005 1:52:08 PM EDT
[#1]
No you haven't!!
 You've seen RECCE. It's a size/configuration just like SAM-R, DMR, SPR, etc. I'm definitely not the one to explain the small nuances between each of them, especially SAM-R and RECCE. Most people call 16" midlengths with a collapsible stock a RECCE Clone. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2005 2:02:45 PM EDT
[#2]
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2005 2:17:39 PM EDT
[#3]
you are just as much of a dick as i am...
that's the first thing i thought of but he at least used a "C"...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2005 3:02:48 PM EDT
[#4]
All kidding aside from prior posts. Check MSTN's Industry Forum for history and more info on the RECCE format. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2005 7:17:23 PM EDT
[#5]
"REECE" means "RECON" That ought to tell you enpough.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/9/2005 7:58:33 PM EDT
[#6]
RECCE and Recon terms are interchangeable.
Typical components: 16" Lilja 1/8 twist barrels with carbine length gas system & Wylde chambered Long 12" KAC FF RAS forends KAC M4 QD FS KAC can OPTICS: ACOG, MR/T, LR/T, Nightforce plus Dr Optiks for CQB. BUIS: Any available and up to the operator. Other components are from M4 carbines. There are also civilian Mini-RECCE with 14.5" barrels and shorter FF forends. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 4:49:10 AM EDT
[#7]
Wrong, it's pronounced rek-kee. |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 10:40:39 AM EDT
[#8]
.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 1:07:44 PM EDT
[#9]
Aye. RECCE is like Becky. |
|||
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 2:59:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Recce is an abbreviation for Recon, so of course they are interchangable. I don't think your entire lists of specs is that common, i.e. the 12" KAC forend. Dr. Optic for CQB on a Recce? Civilian Recces are 14.5? huh? I think most civilians' Recce clones are 16". Actually, I think they are 100% 16" or longer. It's the 16" midlength that brought a rise to the recce craze in the civilian world. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 3:10:18 PM EDT
[#11]
now im confused ? i had wes build me a Recee upper and it was a 16" Lilja 1/8 twist barrels with carbine length gas system & Wylde chambered also 12" larue and a spr scope mount for my 4x14x50 mildot scope im still tryin to get the doc optic wes is out of them at the moment . i will have to ask wes if i dinnt get a recce then ??
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 3:31:28 PM EDT
[#12]
All this talk and no photos? Here's new-argirls MSTN built Recce.
LMT upper 16" Lilja DevGroup barrel fitted bolt Y/M carrier PRI Gas Buster PRI Gas Block 12" FF RAS Night Force 2.5x10 LaRue SPR mount GG&G Bipod Upper is ceramicoated tan One of, if not THE nicest shooting guns we have. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 3:34:47 PM EDT
[#13]
My list is just a repost from MSTN industry forum. They supply the troops with this configuration. The Mini-RECCE is not vaporware it exists either with a permanently installed long FS or it could be a SBR which some civilians could have if someone lives in a state without sissy laws. Look at MSTN's website or industry forums to see pics of it (it's cute). Yes, I agree with you that there's a 16" RECCE midlength craze right now, and I'm in it deep in it because I'm just short of the midlength barrel for my build. I'm leaning towards a lighter mid-weight profile like the Noveske 1/7.5 twist SPR chrome moly barrel, so when I finish my gun it won't be an actual RECCE. Maybe I'll make a real RECCE on my next build. |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 5:14:25 PM EDT
[#14]
I've been told more than once that the term Recce (pronounced "Recky") comes from the Brits. It's British slang, short for "Reconaissance". Since the US Navy SEALs who first adopted the Recce rifle often train with the SAS/SBS, they started to use the term.
Wes at MSTN does have the definitive description of these rifles in one of his posts. I can't find it right now, but I do recall reading that the original "real deal" NSW Crane Recce Rifle specs were for a 16 inch Lilja 1/8 twist barreled carbine with carbine length gas system and a free-float forend (originally the KAC RAS or KAC long RAS). New AR-Guy has a milspec Recce (excepting the non-milspec Vortex FH--the issued FH would most likely be KAC) in his pic (well done, my man!). That's the real .mil version anyway. What folks here will call a "Recce rifle", well that's anyone's guess.  YMMV. Will |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 5:30:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Thank you Will, but I cant take credit for owning the gun. It belongs to my girlfriend and you can believe that I am a jealous guy because of it. She got it from Wes at MSTN who informs us it is one of the actual NSW uppers. Its an incredible shooting gun and very solid. I'll have to shoot it next to both my SPRs (a slighlt modified but very close Mod-0 and a perfect clone Mod-1), and Match barrel MRP, but I think her Recce will out shoot all of them.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 5:51:02 PM EDT
[#16]
New ArGuy,
Believe it or not, after saving for months, I called Wes to buy that exact upper. Apparently, I called him right after your girlfriend did.  No worries, though, as Wes came through for me with a Recce Mod. 1, and even swapped out the LaRue 12.0 for a rare long KAC RAS for me. While I do sometimes regret not having the Lilja barrel, I have to say I really don't shoot well enough to see the difference between it and my Douglas barrel! How's the FFD ceramic-coating holding up? (that was the reason I'd waffled in the first place)... Will |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 5:57:42 PM EDT
[#17]
The ceramic coat is tough stuff. From just the brief time we have had it, I would seriously think it is at least as tough as anodized parts. Anything that would scratch this would do the same to an anodized part. She likes it so much she is going to have her lower done by FFD in the same color. We're just waiting and waiting and waiting for LMT to deliver on a 2 stage trigger lower from them. We've been waiting for many months now.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 6:40:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Yep, i'm twisted around in the AR15.com version of a Recce...
I was confusing the Recce with ADCO's intentions for the upper I bought. It's his mutt "DMM4"... |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 6:56:24 PM EDT
[#19]
If there was ever a good design for an AR15.com SEBR....that'd be....it.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2005 7:56:24 PM EDT
[#20]
How is that scope working out for her?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/11/2005 5:04:59 AM EDT
[#21]
The scope's been great for the precision shooting we primarily do for it. Very clear and tracks excellently. The reticle is thin and prescise but easy to use. It will split the smallest aiming points for very repeatable shots and tight, tight groups. It is not a very good scope for quick shooting. If you're the type who can work anything in a pinch, you can work this scope if needed. But scopes with bolder, more brightly illuminated reticles are easy. The illumination is nice, but does not light up bright enough to be used very well for BAC. It can be done, but not as easily as an ACOG. Im suggesting she get the LaRue DrOptik mount and add one of those to the scope. She is very happy with the gun right now, so I dont know if she wants to change a thing. We'll see. I'll get her to check in to this thread and see if she has anything to add.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
