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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:57:41 PM EDT
I need a new h and h2 buffer.

Last time i needed one i kept buying different ones and all had un-sealed hardcoat. It's harder wearing, and does not protect against corrosion like sealed hardcoad. I have no intention of debating the merits of skipping the seal, which is also plainly called out on the print.

I do want to find quality source that are sealed.
U can tell unsealed since it feels tacky to the touch.

Ive tried at least noveske, aero and dd all were unsealed.
Link Posted: 3/19/2023 5:26:08 PM EDT
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Colt BCM SOLGW
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I always run these brands regarding buffers. never have I once felt one feel tacky....
Link Posted: 3/19/2023 6:07:04 PM EDT
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I always run these brands regarding buffers. never have I once felt one feel tacky....


Oh snap BCM buffers are cheapEr than budget brands on optics planet
Link Posted: 3/19/2023 6:32:38 PM EDT
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I have Slash buffers in a few rifles. Send him an email from one of his ads in the EE. Tell him the particulars of your build. Caliber/gas length/barrel length. He will recommend the buffer and spring you will need.
I have of his set ups in rifles. They have functioned 100% from round 1.

I have Spikes H3 buffers in a few rifles. They work great also.
Link Posted: 3/19/2023 6:40:42 PM EDT
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I have Slash buffers in a few rifles. Send him an email from one of his ads in the EE. Tell him the particulars of your build. Caliber/gas length/barrel length. He will recommend the buffer and spring you will need.
I have of his set ups in rifles. They have functioned 100% from round 1.

I have Spikes H3 buffers in a few rifles. They work great also.
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Im doing h buffer and colt carbine spring all around. Gonna buy an h2 tho just to try out
Link Posted: 3/19/2023 10:03:56 PM EDT
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Geissele Super 42 system
Link Posted: 3/20/2023 6:05:23 AM EDT
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I came to post this. I am running a Super 42 H3 in a Sons 13.7, it is super smooth shooting. I ordered another for my MK18 and it is equally awesome but it won't lock back with 223. It will with 5.56 loads though. It will lock back with 223 in my BCM 11.5, so that's where it rides. I ordered another with an H2 for the MK18.

It's crazy, the difference that spring makes.
Link Posted: 3/20/2023 6:26:21 AM EDT
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VLTOR A5 all the things.
Link Posted: 3/21/2023 3:37:51 PM EDT
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Colt or BCM
Link Posted: 3/21/2023 3:47:15 PM EDT
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Does anyone here read posts, or just subject lines?
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Link Posted: 3/21/2023 5:43:08 PM EDT
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VLTOR A5
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Hey, that's my saying!
Link Posted: 3/21/2023 5:46:34 PM EDT
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I love my JPE captured H2s. Smooth as butter, no 'sproing' sound. Only downside I've found is you can't run them with UTM bolts.
Link Posted: 3/21/2023 7:31:55 PM EDT
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I'm going to stick with what I said.
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VLTOR A5 system is a gimmick. just another money grab item for your AR that provides no benefit over.. let's say a sprinco spring and H1/H2/H3 buffers.

UNLESS your looking for increased LOP, or want/need a rifle length buffer system, or want a WICKED heavy buffer for your over gassed gun/non 556 calibers, standard mil spec carbine length works just fine. other than the h4/h5 weights and increased LOP, all I see is over marketed and hyped up internet reviews.
Link Posted: 3/21/2023 10:22:39 PM EDT
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VLTOR A5 system is a gimmick. just another money grab item for your AR that provides no benefit over.. let's say a sprinco spring and H1/H2/H3 buffers.

UNLESS your looking for increased LOP, or want/need a rifle length buffer system, or want a WICKED heavy buffer for your over gassed gun/non 556 calibers, standard mil spec carbine length works just fine. other than the h4/h5 weights and increased LOP, all I see is over marketed and hyped up internet reviews.
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Truth /\ /\
Link Posted: 3/21/2023 10:53:32 PM EDT
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Trying these currently

Colt, bcm, pws, or whatever name brands I can get the cheapest with chrome silica or sprinco springs.


Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:21:15 AM EDT
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VLTOR A5 system is a gimmick. just another money grab item for your AR that provides no benefit over.. let's say a sprinco spring and H1/H2/H3 buffers.

UNLESS your looking for increased LOP, or want/need a rifle length buffer system, or want a WICKED heavy buffer for your over gassed gun/non 556 calibers, standard mil spec carbine length works just fine. other than the h4/h5 weights and increased LOP, all I see is over marketed and hyped up internet reviews.
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I think it is probably best for controlling full auto cyclic rate while maintaining reliability and mitigating full auto cyclic rate changes suppressed vs unsuppressed. For a semi auto, not so useful.

A flat carbine spring does most of what the A5 will do with a rifle length spring. ie be more linear.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:49:08 AM EDT
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Colt, bcm, pws, or whatever name brands I can get the cheapest with chrome silica or sprinco springs.


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*silicon

Chrome silicon is more likely to rust, or mil would be using it cuz it def holds up better
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 9:40:19 AM EDT
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I use Spikes T2 buffers with powdered tungsten in most rifles, standard springs.  Have you tried these?
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 1:21:27 PM EDT
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Reading is overrated.

It would appear so. I don’t think many people here have a clue as to what question they are answering.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 3:11:00 PM EDT
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I'll report when i take delivery of a KVP (Kaw Valley Precision) H2 tungsten powder buffer. For $30 I'll give it a try. Have no idea if it's a sealed finish or not..

Ordered from Wing Tactical
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 3:21:07 PM EDT
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I used Spike's T2 buffers years ago. They worked great. Don't seem to remember any "tackiness" to the HC finish either.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 4:18:16 PM EDT
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Ordered from Wing Tactical
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My KVP buffer from 2018 appears to be sealed. It’s harder and doesn’t have any tacky feeling after wiping it down. It does have a lot of rounds through it, so that might impact it. My 2023 purchased buffer of the same spec is definitely different. A bit more rubbery feeling. That said neither have had any problems with 8k’ish on the old and about 1k on the new one.

I do potentially think KVP has lowered their other standards. Their buffer tubes don’t appear to be finish honed anymore and a few people here have had their castle nuts break. They used to be my go to. Smoothest buffer tube you could find for a few years.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 4:23:39 PM EDT
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I honestly don't know if companies disclose whether their buffers are "sealed".  Some do reference being hardened.

I'm not subjecting my ARs to salt water or other high corrosion environments, but a buffer assembly is easily cleaned as a part of routine maintenance.  Maybe just buy extras, keep them dry and have on hand?  I always keep a couple new  H and H2 buffers on hand.  I've never had a buffer tube get corroded.
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I honestly don't know if companies disclose whether their buffers are "sealed".  Some do reference being hardened.

I'm not subjecting my ARs to salt water or other high corrosion environments, but a buffer assembly is easily cleaned as a part of routine maintenance.  Maybe just buy extras, keep them dry and have on hand?  I always keep a couple new  H and H2 buffers on hand.  I've never had a buffer tube get corroded.
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U can tell by touch.
I shouldnt even have to worry, i should just be done
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 8:45:46 PM EDT
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I like to run BCM
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 8:55:25 PM EDT
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VLTOR A5 system is a gimmick. just another money grab item for your AR that provides no benefit over.. let's say a sprinco spring and H1/H2/H3 buffers.

UNLESS your looking for increased LOP, or want/need a rifle length buffer system, or want a WICKED heavy buffer for your over gassed gun/non 556 calibers, standard mil spec carbine length works just fine. other than the h4/h5 weights and increased LOP, all I see is over marketed and hyped up internet reviews.
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I'm going to stick with what I said.

VLTOR A5 system is a gimmick. just another money grab item for your AR that provides no benefit over.. let's say a sprinco spring and H1/H2/H3 buffers.

UNLESS your looking for increased LOP, or want/need a rifle length buffer system, or want a WICKED heavy buffer for your over gassed gun/non 556 calibers, standard mil spec carbine length works just fine. other than the h4/h5 weights and increased LOP, all I see is over marketed and hyped up internet reviews.


No,  definitely not a gimmick.  There is function weather you see it as beneficial or not.

The A5 allows use of a full length rifle spring on a collapsable stock.  Longer springs with more coils  are generally considered more consistent than a shorter one with less coils.

The rifle length spring is the benefit.

In my opinion,  the variety of “modified” carbine length springs out there are trying nothing more than to replicate rifle length springs…..

In my experience the A5 can slow and smooth the cyclic rate.  Plus, I am tall with long arms so the added LOP is a plus as you stated.


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My first AR built around 2009 first time at the range. I had some issues someone recommended a spikes T2 I put it on in the rifle 100% since, because the muffled sound and feel my friend thought the rifle was piston driven.
So far every rifle I have uses it, don’t get me wrong. There are others but it works for me extremely reliable, so I’m done. My rifles are all mid length.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 9:09:24 PM EDT
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My first AR built around 2009 first time at the range. I had some issues someone recommended a spikes T2 i installed it she’s 100% since, because the muffled feel and sound my friend thought the rifle was piston driven.
So far every rifle I have uses it, don’t get me wrong. There are others but it works for me extremely reliable, so I’m done. My rifles are all mid length.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 9:49:54 PM EDT
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No,  definitely not a gimmick.  There is function weather you see it as beneficial or not.

The A5 allows use of a full length rifle spring on a collapsable stock.  Longer springs with more coils  are generally considered more consistent than a shorter one with less coils.

The rifle length spring is the benefit.

In my opinion,  the variety of “modified” carbine length springs out there are trying nothing more than to replicate rifle length springs…..

In my experience the A5 can slow and smooth the cyclic rate.  Plus, I am tall with long arms so the added LOP is a plus as you stated.


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You can slow the cyclic rate with carbine length systems just fine.
The marketing has got to you buddy.

You gain nothing because the extension is longer to accommodate the rIfLe LeNgTh spring.
You’re cramming a rifle length spring in a receiver extension that is 2.25” shorter than an actual A2 extension. The A5 is 3/4” longer than carbine.
So your argument about replicating is null and void. You’re doing the same thing as someone with a sprinco enhanced spring but you bought their system. Their tube. Their buffer weight. Marketing. You fell for it.
Again, read my post. LOP and extra buffer weight options is the only reason to buy it.
Show me military test articles with high round counts how the A5 is superior and I’ll listen. You’re supposed to change springs as maintenance items at X amount of rounds as well as measuring spring OAL to see if it needs replacing. Springs don’t last for ever.
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You can slow the cyclic rate with carbine length systems just fine.
The marketing has got to you buddy.

You gain nothing because the extension is longer to accommodate the rIfLe LeNgTh spring.
You’re cramming a rifle length spring in a receiver extension that is 2.25” shorter than an actual A2 extension. The A5 is 3/4” longer than carbine.
So your argument about replicating is null and void. You’re doing the same thing as someone with a sprinco enhanced spring but you bought their system. Their tube. Their buffer weight. Marketing. You fell for it.
Again, read my post. LOP and extra buffer weight options is the only reason to buy it.
Show me military test articles with high round counts how the A5 is superior and I’ll listen. You’re supposed to change springs as maintenance items at X amount of rounds as well as measuring spring OAL to see if it needs replacing. Springs don’t last for ever.
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Truth  /\ /\
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 11:18:32 PM EDT
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On a rifle length buffer, the spring is pushed back an inch or so from the buffer face, not so on an a5, so it’s not really as cramed quite as much as what you make it out to be.  Still,  the same spring is pre loaded more in an a5 than it is on a true rifle setup.  The a5 uses a rifle spring compressed slightly more vs just using one of the 20 varieties of stiffer carbine springs on the market.  

Many paths to rome….

Its…. a buffer,  a tube,  a spring.

Dinner and drinks for 2 at a chain restaurant cost more.



Link Posted: 3/25/2023 12:28:26 PM EDT
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Just took delivery of goods from Wing Tactical. Happy to report the KVP H2 buffer has a nice anodized finish, no "tackiness" to it at all. I'm going to try this with a JP spring. We shall see how it works in my 10.5" with throttled gas.
Link Posted: 3/25/2023 3:57:19 PM EDT
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Any pictures of corroded buffers from not having this coating? Twenty plus years shooting AR’s and I’ve never heard of this. Thanks
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I want one made to print.  do you have an objection?
You also likely never shot one that was not sealed. This is seemingly a new cut corner.
Link Posted: 3/25/2023 7:05:01 PM EDT
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I just received this new Aero Precision H buffer from Brownells. It feels very slick, slippery to the touch with no oil.



Link Posted: 3/25/2023 9:36:47 PM EDT
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I just today received 3 H2 buffers from Bravo Company... They seem to be of good quality and I don't notice that they are tacky to the touch (though they might be and I'm just not sure if my hands are to dry to tell or not ). However, I've run onto the same issue that I had when buying rifle buffers from Bravo Company years ago. And it's that they use buffers from maybe a few different buffer manufacturers. 1 of the 3 H2 buffers I just received is different from the other 2... Now this doesn't matter in the least to your normal sane person, but it drives my OCD a bit nuts when a company has a lack of consistency in the items that they brand as theirs. I tend to not have this issue with Colt parts for the most part, but Colt buffers usually aren't cheap so I sometimes take chances with other brands.

Anyways, here are some pictures of the Bravo Company H2 buffers. You will notice that the one "off" buffer is a darker gold-ish anodizing, has a different more opaque rubber bumper on the back, has a different H2 stamp along with a bigger dimple on the buffer face and uses a coiled roll pin instead of a split roll pin as on the other buffers.











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I just today received 3 H2 buffers from Bravo Company... They seem to be of good quality and I don't notice that they are tacky to the touch (though they might be and I'm just not sure if my hands are to dry to tell or not ). However, I've run onto the same issue that I had when buying rifle buffers from Bravo Company years ago. And it's that they use buffers from maybe a few different buffer manufacturers. 1 of the 3 H2 buffers I just received is different from the other 2... Now this doesn't matter in the least to your normal sane person, but it drives my OCD a bit nuts when a company has a lack of consistency in the items that they brand as theirs. I tend to not have this issue with Colt parts for the most part, but Colt buffers usually aren't cheap so I sometimes take chances with other brands.

Anyways, here are some pictures of the Bravo Company H2 buffers. You will notice that the one "off" buffer is a darker gold-ish anodizing, has a different more opaque rubber bumper on the back, has a different H2 stamp along with a bigger dimple on the buffer face and uses a coiled roll pin instead of a split roll pin as on the other buffers.

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That's interesting. Your odd H2 looks like the same exact construction of the new Aero H buffer I posted above, even the bumper looks the same. I have never seen a coil pin in place of the split roll pin in a buffer body either. Mine weighs right on at 3.8oz. Most important, it's exactly what my carbine needed.
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That's interesting. Your odd H2 looks like the same exact construction of the new Aero H buffer I posted above, even the bumper looks the same. I have never seen a coil pin in place of the split roll pin in a buffer body either. Mine weighs right on at 3.8oz. Most important, it's exactly what my carbine needed.
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I just today received 3 H2 buffers from Bravo Company... They seem to be of good quality and I don't notice that they are tacky to the touch (though they might be and I'm just not sure if my hands are to dry to tell or not ). However, I've run onto the same issue that I had when buying rifle buffers from Bravo Company years ago. And it's that they use buffers from maybe a few different buffer manufacturers. 1 of the 3 H2 buffers I just received is different from the other 2... Now this doesn't matter in the least to your normal sane person, but it drives my OCD a bit nuts when a company has a lack of consistency in the items that they brand as theirs. I tend to not have this issue with Colt parts for the most part, but Colt buffers usually aren't cheap so I sometimes take chances with other brands.

Anyways, here are some pictures of the Bravo Company H2 buffers. You will notice that the one "off" buffer is a darker gold-ish anodizing, has a different more opaque rubber bumper on the back, has a different H2 stamp along with a bigger dimple on the buffer face and uses a coiled roll pin instead of a split roll pin as on the other buffers.

https://i.imgur.com/xKe6ylVl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2yfEyGul.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7phLEFrl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RA69KhOl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/z7LjNDTl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qpmueHSl.jpg
That's interesting. Your odd H2 looks like the same exact construction of the new Aero H buffer I posted above, even the bumper looks the same. I have never seen a coil pin in place of the split roll pin in a buffer body either. Mine weighs right on at 3.8oz. Most important, it's exactly what my carbine needed.


That's exactly what I thought looking over the pictures of your Aero H buffer. And I'm also pretty sure that I've never seen coiled roll pin used on a buffer before.

I haven't weighed any of these H2 buffers yet to see if they're all what they should be, but I might give that a shot tomorrow.
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That's exactly what I thought looking over the pictures of your Aero H buffer. And I'm also pretty sure that I've never seen coiled roll pin used on a buffer before.

I haven't weighed any of these H2 buffers yet to see if they're all what they should be, but I might give that a shot tomorrow.
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Same, never seen that either. Looks odd.

I have pretty much switched over to coiled pins on everything, however.
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I just today received 3 H2 buffers from Bravo Company... They seem to be of good quality and I don't notice that they are tacky to the touch (though they might be and I'm just not sure if my hands are to dry to tell or not ). However, I've run onto the same issue that I had when buying rifle buffers from Bravo Company years ago. And it's that they use buffers from maybe a few different buffer manufacturers. 1 of the 3 H2 buffers I just received is different from the other 2... Now this doesn't matter in the least to your normal sane person, but it drives my OCD a bit nuts when a company has a lack of consistency in the items that they brand as theirs. I tend to not have this issue with Colt parts for the most part, but Colt buffers usually aren't cheap so I sometimes take chances with other brands.

Anyways, here are some pictures of the Bravo Company H2 buffers. You will notice that the one "off" buffer is a darker gold-ish anodizing, has a different more opaque rubber bumper on the back, has a different H2 stamp along with a bigger dimple on the buffer face and uses a coiled roll pin instead of a split roll pin as on the other buffers.

https://i.imgur.com/xKe6ylVl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2yfEyGul.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7phLEFrl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RA69KhOl.jpg

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The color is likely thicker anodizing.

Not at all crazy about them selling completely different units under the same part number. I like shit to be made one way, the right way.
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Same, never seen that either. Looks odd.

I have pretty much switched over to coiled pins on everything, however.
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That's exactly what I thought looking over the pictures of your Aero H buffer. And I'm also pretty sure that I've never seen coiled roll pin used on a buffer before.

I haven't weighed any of these H2 buffers yet to see if they're all what they should be, but I might give that a shot tomorrow.


Same, never seen that either. Looks odd.

I have pretty much switched over to coiled pins on everything, however.


Yeah, not that it's bad, just different. I prefer the coiled pins too. My only hold up with the coiled pins is with smaller sizes like 1/16". Unless you can press them in they deform rather easily. Also, the hole in the ends is usually too small to interface with the nipple on a 1/16" roll pin punch, so you may also end up telescoping the roll pin if you go at them with the hammer and punch method. At least that's my experience, so I stick with split roll pins in the smaller sizes (5/64" 1/16").
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The color is likely thicker anodizing.

Not at all crazy about them selling completely different units under the same part number. I like shit to be made one way, the right way.
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I just today received 3 H2 buffers from Bravo Company... They seem to be of good quality and I don't notice that they are tacky to the touch (though they might be and I'm just not sure if my hands are to dry to tell or not ). However, I've run onto the same issue that I had when buying rifle buffers from Bravo Company years ago. And it's that they use buffers from maybe a few different buffer manufacturers. 1 of the 3 H2 buffers I just received is different from the other 2... Now this doesn't matter in the least to your normal sane person, but it drives my OCD a bit nuts when a company has a lack of consistency in the items that they brand as theirs. I tend to not have this issue with Colt parts for the most part, but Colt buffers usually aren't cheap so I sometimes take chances with other brands.

Anyways, here are some pictures of the Bravo Company H2 buffers. You will notice that the one "off" buffer is a darker gold-ish anodizing, has a different more opaque rubber bumper on the back, has a different H2 stamp along with a bigger dimple on the buffer face and uses a coiled roll pin instead of a split roll pin as on the other buffers.

https://i.imgur.com/xKe6ylVl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2yfEyGul.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7phLEFrl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RA69KhOl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/z7LjNDTl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qpmueHSl.jpg


The color is likely thicker anodizing.

Not at all crazy about them selling completely different units under the same part number. I like shit to be made one way, the right way.


I haven't bought one in a while, but Colt buffers have been good as far as being consistent when I was buying them. I'm not sure if that's the case currently though. Damage Industries has also always been very consistent on their buffers. However, I'm afraid to buy from them anymore after a couple of my more recent orders contained what I could only describe as Chinese made parts despite being advertised as "Made in the USA". I'm not sure if that applies to their more recent buffers, but I did notice that they cheaped out and switched to a chintzyer thinner walled roll pin to retain the rubber bumper a few years ago. That's why I took the chance and ordered the H2 buffers from Bravo Company... That and the Bravo Company H2 buffers were a few dollars less and have a better name behind them. Sometimes you learn your lesson and realize that you should have just bought the Colt part the first time around.

And I've had a messed up Colt rifle buffer too, so nothings perfect. Lol.
Link Posted: 3/26/2023 11:13:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/26/2023 11:15:27 AM EDT
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I am not sure which buffers are sealed or not. I thought it was just a clear anodizing. I will say this, I was in boat company and our rifles were always drenched in saltwater. I have seen rust on just about every part on a rifle. Some of these rifle had more rust than anodizing. I have never seen rust on a Colt buffer. Not sure if that helps or not, but we operated in the most corrosive and harshest environments a rifle could be in and all the buffers were fine. If it is really a concern, find a nitride finished buffer
Link Posted: 3/26/2023 11:39:05 AM EDT
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Yeah, not that it's bad, just different. I prefer the coiled pins too. My only hold up with the coiled pins is with smaller sizes like 1/16". Unless you can press them in they deform rather easily. Also, the hole in the ends is usually too small to interface with the nipple on a 1/16" roll pin punch, so you may also end up telescoping the roll pin if you go at them with the hammer and punch method. At least that's my experience, so I stick with split roll pins in the smaller sizes (5/64" 1/16").
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The only 2 NON factory Colts I own are a SIG Sauer Gen2 716 Patrol rifle and a Sig MCX Virtus, both came from factory with coiled roll pins in the injectors, interestingly enough, the 716 a 308 piston gun has 2 ejectors and uses a 1/16 coiled pin 1/2 long. Never had a problem pressing them in and out using a drill press. The MCX uses a coiled 5/64.
Link Posted: 3/26/2023 12:41:24 PM EDT
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I am not sure which buffers are sealed or not. I thought it was just a clear anodizing. I will say this, I was in boat company and our rifles were always drenched in saltwater. I have seen rust on just about every part on a rifle. Some of these rifle had more rust than anodizing. I have never seen rust on a Colt buffer. Not sure if that helps or not, but we operated in the most corrosive and harshest environments a rifle could be in and all the buffers were fine. If it is really a concern, find a nitride finished buffer
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salt bath nitride is a case hardening for steel, the last step is a black oxide treatment. You cannot nitride aluminum.

It IS clear anodizing but it's only clear when it's really really thin. Thats why clear lowers/uppers are super suspect. 6061 gets more yellow when the coating is thicker; 7075 more gray.
Link Posted: 3/26/2023 12:56:18 PM EDT
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I want one made to print.  do you have an objection?
You also likely never shot one that was not sealed. This is seemingly a new cut corner.
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No objections, print away. Just asking to see corroded buffers from this issue. I’m the armorer for my squad and we’ve never run into this.
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