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Posted: 1/9/2019 1:12:39 AM EDT
Based on my (considerably limited) experience in the AR/tactically-focused shooting community over these past few years, it would seem that the reign of Flat Dark Earth is starting to be challenged. It could be by imagination, but it seems like we're starting to see more OD Green options (even if in limited amounts) than there were before, and I have a theory as to why that is.
The predominant conflict that the US military is involved in or focused on, I believe, drives much of the focus for rifle furniture and accessories. So, when the armed forces were heavily engaged in terrains such as Iraq, North Africa, and the more arid regions of Afghanistan, Flat Dark Earth was naturally popular. However, as Russia has become the new boogey man, and the drawdown in the Middle East continues, I think we're seeing a return to more forest-focused color schemes. After all, while I do love FDE, and most of my rifles are adorned with FDE furniture and accessories, I am rediscovering my love for OD Green; especially as it fits in better with my area of the Appalachia (at least during the spring, summer and fall). Now, for a counter-argument, it could be said that the military still favors FDE, after all, USASOC's selection of the URG-I is defaulted in an FDE-like shade, but SF & Rangers will probably just rattle-can that to whatever environment they end up in anyway. So? Thoughts? Has anyone else noticed a similar trend? Or am I just off the paper entirely? |
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You're spot on as to why FDE blew up. I would say multicam is the current day "FDE"
OD green is damn effective too in a jungle environment. (As is woodland) I actually just snagged an OD green plate carrier yesterday. At the end of the day, one should buy gear that matches THEIR environment, not what matches where our troops/SOF are deployed. Unless its a clone of course, then FDE all the things as required. |
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You're spot on as to why FDE blew up. I would say multicam is the current day "FDE" OD green is damn effective too in a jungle environment. (As is woodland) I actually just snagged an OD green plate carrier yesterday. At the end of the day, one should buy gear that matches THEIR environment, not what matches where our troops/SOF are deployed. Unless its a clone of course, then FDE all the things as required. View Quote |
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As stated rattle can it for the environment. Thinking of repainting my URG white right now
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Not all Green is OD green. Some greens are "Forest Greens" and other shades that can make getting your stock, grip, panels or forearm from different makers a challenge to match...
Your Receiver is OD, but your forearm is Forest Green... But that said, I like the OD Green Thing on a couple of my ARs. |
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Glad to see it coming back, I think the geissele rails are a major factor.
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Glad to see it coming back, I think the geissele rails are a major factor. View Quote |
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All of my ARs have OD green grips, stocks, and rail covers. It works well for my environment - I still use old woodland BDUs, too.
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Some of it is people understanding their environment (although tans and browns are valid for a lot of us, especially right now), but I'd imagine a lot of it is just something different for that new rifle build. We have black rifles, we have tan rifles, some of you guys have bronze and purple and whatever else...
During the summer there is plenty of green here between the corn and the trees, but brown and medium tans still have a place and are certainly better than just black. I've been giving some thought to using a brown like the DD RIS rail with OD furniture and swiping it with some Krylon woodland light green. |
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I live in the southeast, so OD green for me.
If I lived in Arizona, it would be fde. |
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I agree with dressing for your environment. Is Mossy Oak just not tacticool enough to be adopted?
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I never jumped on the tan or FDE train, its great if you live out west but I live in OH, the terrain is green 9 months out of the year, and even during the winter grass, bushes, pine trees, and other organic mater still retain green shades. Why would I choose anyting other than multicam or OD green?!
Pick whats around you, not what the super cool tacticool special forces ninjas are using. |
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Never liked FDE I have always been a fan of the OD/Ranger/Forrest green colors. Even in many parts of the places where the US mil finds itself in conflicts right now you will find green and pretty much anywhere on the planet except the poles you will find green. Green is in the dessert, in the mountains, and just about everywhere.
Green master race FTW! |
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I bought one of the OD green Geissele MK16 rails during BF. and then Aero had a 25% off sale on the OD green stripped uppers. put them side by side, one is green-ish, one is brown-ish. we're on our way to 50 shades of ODG. https://i.imgur.com/EnnK8lr.jpg View Quote |
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Based on my (considerably limited) experience in the AR/tactically-focused shooting community over these past few years, it would seem that the reign of Flat Dark Earth is starting to be challenged. It could be by imagination, but it seems like we're starting to see more OD Green options (even if in limited amounts) than there were before, and I have a theory as to why that is. The predominant conflict that the US military is involved in or focused on, I believe, drives much of the focus for rifle furniture and accessories. So, when the armed forces were heavily engaged in terrains such as Iraq, North Africa, and the more arid regions of Afghanistan, Flat Dark Earth was naturally popular. However, as Russia has become the new boogey man, and the drawdown in the Middle East continues, I think we're seeing a return to more forest-focused color schemes. After all, while I do love FDE, and most of my rifles are adorned with FDE furniture and accessories, I am rediscovering my love for OD Green; especially as it fits in better with my area of the Appalachia (at least during the spring, summer and fall). Now, for a counter-argument, it could be said that the military still favors FDE, after all, USASOC's selection of the URG-I is defaulted in an FDE-like shade, but SF & Rangers will probably just rattle-can that to whatever environment they end up in anyway. So? Thoughts? Has anyone else noticed a similar trend? Or am I just off the paper entirely? View Quote |
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I actually just snagged an OD green plate carrier yesterday. View Quote My old PC that I have had for years is FDE (actually its now a mix of FDE, Dirt, grime grease etc etc) and has been reconfigured multiple times as I just can't seem to get rid of it! Its currently wearing OD green mag puches but has in the past had a mixture of things such as a Woodland camelbak, ACU, and dyed ACU pouches along with various FDE pouches and multicam/ocp pouches. I'm like the hobo of gear shit, none of my stuff matches at all which I have found actually helps in some situations to break it up. |
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I would disagree, Magpul has been providing us with different colors besides black for awhile now. Besides painting rifles, I wonder if we could ID the first company to offer colored accessories? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I'm a sucker for green. Im glad it's becoming more popular.
Lets not forget about Glock Battle Field Green. I've got the 19 the 17, Geissele Mk 4 ODG and a MK 16 ODG. Just got a CZ P07 in ODG but its a bit of different shade. Although I still like it quite a bit. |
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Quoted: I would disagree, Magpul has been providing us with different colors besides black for awhile now. Besides painting rifles, I wonder if we could ID the first company to offer colored accessories? View Quote CavArms did a lot with different color furniture before Magpul. VLTOR offered black, green and tan. Not sure where they got in amongst Magpul's original stocks. And dont forget there was a gap, for various reasons when magpul was offering only black magazines, and then only black and sand. I think now they only have black and MCT. I normally go for FDE, but I just redid a rifle in green because I had a VLTOR stock and a hogue grip in green from back in the day. I picked up Magpul MLok covers to match. |
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Glad to see it coming back, I think the geissele rails are a major factor. View Quote Quoted:
Not sure I understand what you disagree with. View Quote |
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I love OD green.
No more arctic or desert missions for me! At least in the arctic you freeze all the time, in the f@cking desert you bake for half the day and freeze for the other half. |
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OD is my favorite. Can’t go wrong. Non reflective and works great at night too. Plus, it just looks awesome.
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I’m going Abino Master Race with my guns so that they’re easily concealed when I wear my tactically revealing Daisy Dukes. Avert your eyes, citizen!
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I’m going Abino Master Race with my guns so that they’re easily concealed when I wear my tactically revealing Daisy Dukes. Avert your eyes, citizen! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/786F29D6-4989-4325-BF00-B7949542478B_jpeg-801642.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/34B346B8-F922-4220-973E-D9877B20ED9D_jpeg-801643.JPG View Quote |
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Recently running a new coyote chest rig in a wet forest thinking it would be an awful match because eveything is green. I went prone getting super muddy and funny enough it matched the mud color perfectly, so it even depends if you want to match vegetation or dirt...
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Love the OD Green lower and upper receivers with black furniture. I grabbed one of the OD green Mk4 10" Geissele rails. Sad to say it doesn't match the OD green furniture I already have, so my FBI-HRT near facsimile will now be all black.
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I was disagreeing with Geissele being a major factor. They had the FBI rails and just recently released the green anodizing for some sales. I think the other manufacturers have been the ones enabling the multitude of colors including OD green. Geissele is just the latest one to throw their hat in the ring. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Glad to see it coming back, I think the geissele rails are a major factor. Quoted:
Not sure I understand what you disagree with. I must’ve still been asleep. |
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Glad to see it's making a comeback. It would be nice to see more rails and SBA3's offered in OD green.
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I mix and match colors. Whatever is laying around gets put on the newest AR built. It's not a fashion statement.
If I need to hide it it gets Krylon. |
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My old PC that I have had for years is FDE (actually its now a mix of FDE, Dirt, grime grease etc etc) and has been reconfigured multiple times as I just can't seem to get rid of it! Its currently wearing OD green mag puches but has in the past had a mixture of things such as a Woodland camelbak, ACU, and dyed ACU pouches along with various FDE pouches and multicam/ocp pouches. I'm like the hobo of gear shit, none of my stuff matches at all which I have found actually helps in some situations to break it up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I actually just snagged an OD green plate carrier yesterday. My old PC that I have had for years is FDE (actually its now a mix of FDE, Dirt, grime grease etc etc) and has been reconfigured multiple times as I just can't seem to get rid of it! Its currently wearing OD green mag puches but has in the past had a mixture of things such as a Woodland camelbak, ACU, and dyed ACU pouches along with various FDE pouches and multicam/ocp pouches. I'm like the hobo of gear shit, none of my stuff matches at all which I have found actually helps in some situations to break it up. As for the dirt/grime thing its funny you say that. That's the only thing that makes ACU half way worth a damn for camoflague is rolling around in dirt/muck first. |
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Took ya'll long enough. Works just as well in western high desert as it does in eastern woodlands. ODG is very adaptable.
Aervoe rattlecan OD Green...same rifle, different lighting: Attached File Attached File |
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I bought one of the OD green Geissele MK16 rails during BF. and then Aero had a 25% off sale on the OD green stripped uppers. put them side by side, one is green-ish, one is brown-ish. we're on our way to 50 shades of ODG. https://i.imgur.com/EnnK8lr.jpg View Quote |
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As much as I like OD, it stands out in every environment short of the couple areas of alpine forest we have here in AZ. Multicam looks like it was tailor-made for most of the environments in the state.
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There seems to be green and light brown/tan just about everywhere so I try to incorporate both in my rattle can camo jobs. I don’t do a solid one color, but there’s nothing wrong with it, que Seinfeld.
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