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Posted: 10/27/2014 1:42:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Alaska511]
We aren't allowed in the RECCE / SPR threads, so post the 14.5s and smaller here!
I borrowed the name from another member 
RIFLES/SBRs ONLY, PLEASE. No Pistols or "PDWs" with braces, etc. You pistol peeps have an entire subforum for that stuff. 14.5" and shorter, free floated, variable mag optic - LPVOs are great! Please no magnifiers, or ACOGs.. 
Noveske Crusader upper WMD NiB BCG Vortex Razor HDII 1-6x Seekins forged lower Seekins billet lower parts Geiselle SSAe VLTOR IMod and RE Sprinco Blue and H2 BCM Mod1 grip |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/17/2020 5:31:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SSOUNN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: wrecky wrecky https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20201217_140915_HDR_jpg-1735673.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20201217_141052_HDR_jpg-1735674.JPG Dat one on Da bottom Doe..  EDIT: 1st Page Ownage Ever  
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Posted: 12/20/2020 12:34:59 AM EDT
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Goin wild with the rattle-can. Paint don’t match, don’t care
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KY, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2020 8:45:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maack: Goin wild with the rattle-can. Paint don’t match, don’t care https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4HN7DF3tdfs/X97IrUpQB8I/AAAAAAAAMIA/NPeDaYt6LlU4CQJlj8RUyMCqVbYjFm3aQCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/B8727BBE-E31F-4AC7-816F-963AA8BD7FA3.jpeg Super Mini. Barrel Length 0” |
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Posted: 12/20/2020 9:54:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RecoilSensitive: Super Mini. Barrel Length 0” Yep gonna be a long wait till March when I get that Criterion Core 13.9”. My other one will be back together soon though. |
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Posted: 12/21/2020 4:14:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: whiplash10]
[#5]
The short boi 12.5 recce build has begun! Newer SLR rails have some nice improvements, rotation limited QD with a reinforced section.
 
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Posted: 12/23/2020 1:27:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/23/2020 9:12:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/414212/E05E2373-39AC-4DEE-BD0E-EFF71351B1D4_jpe-1744263.JPG Simple and effective. |
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Posted: 12/23/2020 9:20:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/414212/E05E2373-39AC-4DEE-BD0E-EFF71351B1D4_jpe-1744263.JPG I see you and I did siblings again  Attached File |
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USA
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Posted: 12/23/2020 12:03:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: I guess this fits here, on the long end of mini at 14.5”. https://i.imgur.com/HV3Ndee.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eXZphib.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VCLQy6b.jpg I have a 13.9" Core barrel on backorder, was thinking about getting a Razor 1-10x to go with it. The amount of cantilever required for that optic is huge. What position do you put the stock at when shooting? Does the Geissele hyper extended mount give you enough or do you wish it was further forward? |
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Posted: 12/23/2020 12:40:00 PM EDT
[#10]
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone set it up that far forward. Mine was close to the castle nut and I typically shoot with the stock somewhere between all the way out to two clicks in.
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Posted: 12/23/2020 2:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wake27: I don’t think I’ve seen anyone set it up that far forward. Mine was close to the castle nut and I typically shoot with the stock somewhere between all the way out to two clicks in. At risk of angering the Mini Recce gods by posting a pistol brace, this is my 12.5" with a VCOG that claims 4" of eye relief. I had to get the Geissele VCOG mount to push it far enough forward for how I shoot. It looks like even in the hyper extended mount the Razor 1-10x sits a bit further back than my scope, but Vortex claims 3.6" of eye relief so it might work out. Finding somewhere to mock all of that up is difficult, so just trying to gather information before dropping a bunch of cash on it. I have a Criterion Core 13.9" barrel on back order and another URX 4 coming in, this time 13", that I will be putting on this lower and swapping the brace out for a B5 Bravo. Thinking that 10x and a better reticle will help me see how far I can stretch it. I've taken the 12.5" to 500 yards, but never tried beyond that. 
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Posted: 12/23/2020 2:48:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Well now my day is fucking ruined since I had to see a brace
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Posted: 12/23/2020 3:51:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Well now my day is fucking ruined since I had to see a brace Soon it will be considered an sbr so hes ahead of the game
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Posted: 12/23/2020 11:09:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Adding more and more brown.
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USA
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Posted: 12/24/2020 12:26:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Well now my day is fucking ruined since I had to see a brace My day is ruined from seeing a vcog |
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Posted: 12/24/2020 1:15:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: Adding more and more brown. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/414212/585D2C19-FE06-4B6F-A744-E8B62A6A0387_jpe-1745391.JPG And I’m just throwing shit together at this point. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/414212/DA6A26B5-697F-46C6-B412-CEDDB0BE1959_jpe-1745398.JPG Who makes those mag releases my dude? |
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Posted: 12/24/2020 6:49:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Turbo_Kill3r: Who makes those mag releases my dude? KAC |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2020 12:28:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Well now my day is fucking ruined since I had to see a brace LMFAO hoping parts availability changes in the near future.....got two mini recce projects that I would really like to complete. Merry Christmas |
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Posted: 12/25/2020 7:10:17 PM EDT
[#19]
So many Legos put together today. Hopefully I can sneak to the range tomorrow while the wife is at Hobby Lobby..?
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Posted: 12/27/2020 2:41:48 AM EDT
[#20]
Christmas night recce for critters. Threw the x300 off the g19 on there and worked well but going to get a dedicated rifle light. Have a m600 body and mount but need a head. Thinking Malkoff.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 6:53:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brackeen22]
[#21]
Here is my submission she’s a real pig.
Mostly larue except Lantac BCG SLR gas block Lantac Dragon UBR PRI Gasbuster Running A5H2 buffer I know the dragon is not as popular but I wanted something different that was ASR capable. It’s run 99% suppressed anyway. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:13:21 PM EDT
[#22]
Help/Thoughts with a concept. And/or does anyone have pics of this setup? 14.5” SOCOM barrel with either a rifle length FF RAS or a 13” Geissele rail. Leupold 3.5-10, 3-9, or 2.5-8 MR/T optic. Preferably with a piggyback rds. Kind of like a 14.5” SAM-R or Mk12 Mod 1.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:26:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullseye_Doc_Holiday: Help/Thoughts with a concept. And/or does anyone have pics of this setup? 14.5” SOCOM barrel with either a rifle length FF RAS or a 13” Geissele rail. Leupold 3.5-10, 3-9, or 2.5-8 MR/T optic. Preferably with a piggyback rds. Kind of like a 14.5” SAM-R or Mk12 Mod 1. The NSW/SEAL/Delta Recce thread would contain what you're looking for or fairly close. |
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Posted: 12/29/2020 1:26:06 AM EDT
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How many of you guys are doing things like trueing the face of your upper and using green Loctite on the barrel extension to bed the barrel? I figure if anyone is doing that it would be the guys trying to get 600 yards out of short barrels. I was just watching Criterion’s videos on “accurizing” the AR15 and trying to decide if I should buy the tools to do it or send my parts out to a shop.
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Posted: 12/29/2020 2:18:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZULUKILO: How many of you guys are doing things like trueing the face of your upper and using green Loctite on the barrel extension to bed the barrel? I figure if anyone is doing that it would be the guys trying to get 600 yards out of short barrels. I was just watching Criterion's videos on "accurizing" the AR15 and trying to decide if I should buy the tools to do it or send my parts out to a shop. Not me. Mine's been out to 650y. I feel like this is akin to lapping scope rings, I dunno. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2020 5:03:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: Not me. Mine's been out to 650y. I feel like this is akin to lapping scope rings, I dunno. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By ZULUKILO: How many of you guys are doing things like trueing the face of your upper and using green Loctite on the barrel extension to bed the barrel? I figure if anyone is doing that it would be the guys trying to get 600 yards out of short barrels. I was just watching Criterion's videos on "accurizing" the AR15 and trying to decide if I should buy the tools to do it or send my parts out to a shop. Not me. Mine's been out to 650y. I feel like this is akin to lapping scope rings, I dunno. This. While it will 100% not hurt accuracy. Getting to and past 600yd with the shorties is hindered by velocity and bullet choice. Not inherent accuracy. It's the wind that's going to have you missing your target. This is where velocity and BC come into play and help you buck the wind. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2020 7:18:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: stainlineho]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZULUKILO: How many of you guys are doing things like trueing the face of your upper and using green Loctite on the barrel extension to bed the barrel? I figure if anyone is doing that it would be the guys trying to get 600 yards out of short barrels. I was just watching Criterion’s videos on “accurizing” the AR15 and trying to decide if I should buy the tools to do it or send my parts out to a shop. Just buy a BCM receiver and avoid all that. |
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Posted: 12/29/2020 8:09:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Just a BCM receiver and avoid all that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Originally Posted By ZULUKILO: How many of you guys are doing things like trueing the face of your upper and using green Loctite on the barrel extension to bed the barrel? I figure if anyone is doing that it would be the guys trying to get 600 yards out of short barrels. I was just watching Criterion’s videos on “accurizing” the AR15 and trying to decide if I should buy the tools to do it or send my parts out to a shop. Just a BCM receiver and avoid all that. Winner winner Nothing beats a thermal fit barrel |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2020 8:53:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drewthebrave]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Winner winner Nothing beats a thermal fit barrel Agreed. BCM has become my go-to for most of my builds, but because they're undersized, the "truing" tool won't fit. For what it's worth, most of the non-BCM receivers that I have trued were nearly true from the factory, with only a slight variance (KAK, Aversion, & Aero Precision), so I'd expect BCM to be pretty dang close to true from the factory. I recently picked up a Wilson Combat Recon SR barrel that was the tightest non-thermal fit I've seen in a standard (Aero) receiver, so I can't imagine how tough that would have been to get into a BCM upper if I had to try. I trued that upper and used some Loctite 620 on that assembly. While I don't think either operation was necessary, I'm hoping the process will reduce any variables that might affect accuracy for my Recce-inspired build. Sometimes it's good to have one standard receiver and one thermal fit on hand so that you can put the barrel into the receiver where it will fit best. Some of the oversized barrel extensions (WOA comes to mind) might be troublesome with undersized receivers (like BCM). While these steps are not necessary, I'm learning that the process can increase the likelihood of getting a very capable rifle in the end. For a little extra time and not much cost, I think it's worth the trouble. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 8:46:52 PM EDT
[#30]
So which scope would y’all pick? Vortex Razor 1-10 or Nighforce NX8? I have the first Vortex Razor 1-6 and I’m probably gonna sell it and buy a Steiner. It’s just too damn heavy.
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Posted: 12/30/2020 8:49:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5pt56]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brackeen22: So which scope would y’all pick? Vortex Razor 1-10 or Nighforce NX8? I have the first Vortex Razor 1-6 and I’m probably gonna sell it and buy a Steiner. It’s just too damn heavy. You just answered your own question. The Vortex is just too heavy. NX8 for the win! Only thing the Vortex does marginally better is the eye box. The other things the NF beat out in are worth it to me to have a little tighter eye box. @SDMF_Rebel |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 8:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: You just answered your own question. The Vortex is just too heavy. NX8 for the win! Only thing the Vortex does marginally better is the eye box. The other things the NF beat out in are worth it to me to have a little tighter eye box. @SDMF_Rebel Agreed. I hate heavy LPVOs. Training can fix the eye box deficiency easily. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 9:44:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Agreed. I hate heavy LPVOs. Training can fix the eye box deficiency easily. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Originally Posted By 5pt56: You just answered your own question. The Vortex is just too heavy. NX8 for the win! Only thing the Vortex does marginally better is the eye box. The other things the NF beat out in are worth it to me to have a little tighter eye box. @SDMF_Rebel Agreed. I hate heavy LPVOs. Training can fix the eye box deficiency easily. Y’all are both backing up where I was already leaning. The weight is just a deal breaker. I guess I better be finding an NX8 and pick a mount. Would anyone sell a original razor to buy the E or get a Steiner P4Xi? |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 10:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brackeen22: Y’all are both backing up where I was already leaning. The weight is just a deal breaker. I guess I better be finding an NX8 and pick a mount. Would anyone sell a original razor to buy the E or get a Steiner P4Xi? I have had the OG Razor and the E. I don't remember the tech weight difference but felt weight wasn't much IMO between the 2. I've never owned the P4Xi. If you want to keep a Razor, I'd just keep the one you have for less hassle.... Its the NF NX8 for me....  
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Posted: 12/30/2020 10:03:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: I have had the OG Razor and the E. I don't remember the tech weight difference but felt weight wasn't much IMO between the 2. I've never owned the P4Xi. If you want to keep a Razor, I'd just keep the one you have for less hassle.... Its the NF NX8 for me.... https://i.imgur.com/43JwGJ1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AJbeOVL.jpg Yes it appears it is Wow. Yeah I may just keep it and use it on another build. |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 10:48:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: I have had the OG Razor and the E. I don't remember the tech weight difference but felt weight wasn't much IMO between the 2. I've never owned the P4Xi. If you want to keep a Razor, I'd just keep the one you have for less hassle.... Its the NF NX8 for me.... https://i.imgur.com/43JwGJ1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AJbeOVL.jpg What flip up caps are those? |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:49:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorLove: What flip up caps are those? @DoctorLove The best ones on the market IMO. Only downsides are they are a bit pricey and out of stock a lot. But well worth it still. AADMount here |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 9:35:53 AM EDT
[#38]
@5pt56 you need to mount up that ATACR!
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Posted: 12/31/2020 10:42:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:02:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: I have had the OG Razor and the E. I don't remember the tech weight difference but felt weight wasn't much IMO between the 2. I've never owned the P4Xi. If you want to keep a Razor, I'd just keep the one you have for less hassle.... Its the NF NX8 for me.... https://i.imgur.com/43JwGJ1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AJbeOVL.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5pt56: I have had the OG Razor and the E. I don't remember the tech weight difference but felt weight wasn't much IMO between the 2. I've never owned the P4Xi. If you want to keep a Razor, I'd just keep the one you have for less hassle.... Its the NF NX8 for me.... https://i.imgur.com/43JwGJ1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AJbeOVL.jpg Amen to that, the wider FOV is nicer on the ATACR but Jesus it's not worth the premium. A buddy had one on his 14.5 at the range a couple days ago and it's huge compared to the NX8. Mag ring also was much tougher/less smooth to move. FOV was better but not super noticeable, it's not bad on the NX8.  Originally Posted By Brackeen22: Y’all are both backing up where I was already leaning. The weight is just a deal breaker. I guess I better be finding an NX8 and pick a mount. Man if you can wait, the Badger 1.7 is worth it. Not as 'snappy' as the Unity FAST, but between my 1.93 LEAP mount and this, I don't notice a difference. Comfortable and fast no matter what. 
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:07:30 AM EDT
[#41]
Nx8 crew checking in.
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiplash10: Amen to that, the wider FOV is nicer on the ATACR but Jesus it's not worth the premium. A buddy had one on his 14.5 at the range a couple days ago and it's huge compared to the NX8. Mag ring also was much tougher/less smooth to move. FOV was better but not super noticeable, it's not bad on the NX8. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50782686078_db3ceaa999_c.jpg Man if you can wait, the Badger 1.7 is worth it. Not as 'snappy' as the Unity FAST, but between my 1.93 LEAP mount and this, I don't notice a difference. Comfortable and fast no matter what. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50783466966_4deb19748a_b.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiplash10: Amen to that, the wider FOV is nicer on the ATACR but Jesus it's not worth the premium. A buddy had one on his 14.5 at the range a couple days ago and it's huge compared to the NX8. Mag ring also was much tougher/less smooth to move. FOV was better but not super noticeable, it's not bad on the NX8. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50782686078_db3ceaa999_c.jpg Man if you can wait, the Badger 1.7 is worth it. Not as 'snappy' as the Unity FAST, but between my 1.93 LEAP mount and this, I don't notice a difference. Comfortable and fast no matter what. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50783466966_4deb19748a_b.jpg I couldn't agree more! I love the Badger mounts! My plan is to transition to them all for the most part. 1.93 is too high for me but the 1.7 is so natural and there everytime. I need to make time to get these mounted or swapped out!  Disclaimer: I only have the Vortex for clone purposes and haven't gotten around to selling it! Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Nx8 crew checking in. Yeaaahhhhh buddy! |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:17:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Brackeen22]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiplash10: Amen to that, the wider FOV is nicer on the ATACR but Jesus it's not worth the premium. A buddy had one on his 14.5 at the range a couple days ago and it's huge compared to the NX8. Mag ring also was much tougher/less smooth to move. FOV was better but not super noticeable, it's not bad on the NX8. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50782686078_db3ceaa999_c.jpg Man if you can wait, the Badger 1.7 is worth it. Not as 'snappy' as the Unity FAST, but between my 1.93 LEAP mount and this, I don't notice a difference. Comfortable and fast no matter what. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50783466966_4deb19748a_b.jpg I’m pretty sure I’m going badger. I have a spare lt104 for the wait if I order a 1.7. I’ve always run 1.5 so can’t decide if I want to get away from that. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:19:35 AM EDT
[#44]
Anyone ever bought a europtic Demo?
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Posted: 12/31/2020 11:47:53 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brackeen22: Anyone ever bought a europtic Demo? At least 2 of my NX8s are demos from there. I've been very lucky and both looked brand new without a mark on them anywhere. Also Badger has a 1.54 in the new mount, may want to try that instead of a 1.7 but if you do get a 1.7 first and don't like it, I know a guy that will gladly buy it from you for the right price. 
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:04:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: whiplash10]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brackeen22: I’m pretty sure I’m going badger. I have a spare lt104 for the wait if I order a 1.7. I’ve always run 1.5 so can’t decide if I want to get away from that. 1.7 really is the best of all worlds from what I've found. keep an eye on Rooftop Defense, they have a pretty regular supply. |
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:35:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Nx8 is king https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20201230_084657_HDR_jpg-1756546.JPG Sure looks like an ACOG.
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Sure looks like an ACOG. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Nx8 is king https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20201230_084657_HDR_jpg-1756546.JPG Sure looks like an ACOG. Two separate thoughts
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Posted: 12/31/2020 12:56:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiplash10: 1.7 really is the best of all worlds from what I've found. keep an eye on Rooftop Defense, they have a pretty regular supply. That’s where I got mine. 1.7 is perfect for me |
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