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Posted: 4/13/2013 12:37:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot]
Let's see your guys M4 SOPMOD Clones, all are welcome here but this is mainly for the Block I and 1.5/PR clones.
Block I 
Barrel: 14.5" M4 1/7 twist (M4 Profile or HB 'SOCOM' Profile) Flash Hider: Standard A2 or KAC NT4 Rail System: KAC M4 RIS/RAS Vertical grips KAC Rail panels: KAC Optics: Aimpoint Comp M/M2 in Wilcox Mount Trijicon ACOG TA01 NSN Trijicon RX01 IR/Visible Lasers: Insight PAQ-4 Insight AN/PEQ-2 Insight AN/PEQ-5 Visible Laser Flashlight: Surefire M951/M952 Rear sight: MaTech Buttstock: Colt Fiberlite Standard M4 SOPMOD Block 1.5/Phase Replacement (PR) Barrel: 14.5" M4 1/7 twist (M4 Profile or HB 'SOCOM' Profile) Flash Hider: Standard A2 or KAC NT4 Rail System: KAC M4 RIS/RAS Vertical grips: Tango down battle grip in tan KAC Grip-Pod Rail panels: Tango Down KAC Optics: Elcan Specter DR SU-230 EOTech SU-231-PEQ (EOTech 553) EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS03) ACOG SU-237 (TA01-ECOS) EOTech/Aimpoint 3x magnifiers IR Lasers: Insight AN/PEQ-15/LA-5 Flashlight: Insight M3 (SU-233/PVS) Insight WMX200 Rear sight: KAC 300m KAC 600m MaTech Buttstock: standard M4 SOPMOD Block II (borrowed from M4A1 SOPMOD Block II Thread)  Attached FileBarrel: 14.5" M4 1/7 twist (M4 Profile or HB 'SOCOM' Profile) Flash Hider: Standard A2, KAC NT4, Surefire SF4P (good luck purchasing!) Rail System: DD RIS II in dark earth Vertical grips Tango down battle grip in tan KAC Grip-Pod Rail panels: Tango Down KAC Front sight: KAC flip up in tan Optics: Elcan Specter DR SU-230 EOTech SU-231-PEQ (EOTech 553) EOTech SU-231A-PEQ (EOTech EXPS-3) ACOG SU-237 (TA01-ECOS) EOTech/Aimpoint 3x magnifiers IR Lasers: Insight AN/PEQ-15/LA-5 Flashlight: Insight M3 (SU-233/PVS) Insight WMX200 Surefire Scout M600 Rear sight: KAC 300m KAC 600m MaTech Buttstock: standard M4 SOPMOD Now some reference pictures: Here are mine! (Top) M4 SOPMOD (Block 1) (Middle) M4 SOPMOD (Phase Replacement) (Bottom) M4 SOPMOD Block II Attached FileBlock I (M4 SOPMOD) Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FilePhased Replacement (Block 1.5) Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:05:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Proper optic would be a CompM4, CompM4S, or M150. M150? Never heard of one. Happen to have a visual? |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:07:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Like the pictures you posted. Proper optic would be a CompM4, CompM4S, or M150. Or the comp m2 m68 cco is also an early mws around 1998 or 1999 when the m4 rolled out in the 82nd. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:08:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: M150? Never heard of one. Happen to have a visual? https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta31rco-m150cp-g  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Or the comp m2 m68 cco is also an early mws around 1998 or 1999 when the m4 rolled out in the 82nd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Originally Posted By pezboytate: Like the pictures you posted. Proper optic would be a CompM4, CompM4S, or M150. Or the comp m2 m68 cco is also an early mws around 1998 or 1999 when the m4 rolled out in the 82nd. He said SOCOM barrel. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:17:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: He said SOCOM barrel. Gotcha. Have a headache. Been having seizures past couple days and kinda out of it so missed it. Please excuse my error. We all have bad days . You are correct. The comp m4 m68cco and ta31 m150 would be correct with the m4a1 socom barrel. I should really get off my phone and be sleeping, but I am damn stubborn and don't want to. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:25:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Gotcha. Have a headache. Been having seizures past couple days and kinda out of it so missed it. Please excuse my error. We all have bad days . You are correct. The comp m4 m68cco and ta31 m150 would be correct with the m4a1 socom barrel. I should really get off my phone and be sleeping, but I am damn stubborn and don't want to. Take a break and get better man, I understand what you're going through. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: M150? Never heard of one. Happen to have a visual? https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta31rco-m150cp-g https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/TA31RCO-M150CP-G_90-1466-1566312650_jpg-1989806.JPG TA31RCO....this is familiar. What is the M150 designation? Not real Trijicon savvy. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:44:54 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: TA31RCO....this is familiar. What is the M150 designation? Not real Trijicon savvy. Army designation for the TA31 in service. CD |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:45:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: TA31RCO....this is familiar. What is the M150 designation? Not real Trijicon savvy. M150 is the complete kit just like the m68cco. Includes mount, killflash, covers and so on. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 2:46:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: M150 is the complete kit just like the m68cco Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: TA31RCO....this is familiar. What is the M150 designation? Not real Trijicon savvy. M150 is the complete kit just like the m68cco Copy that. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 3:07:21 PM EDT
[#11]
RCO-A4 and RCO-M4 are USMC. M150 is virtually identical to the RCO-M4 but has lens caps and different markings.
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Posted: 6/24/2021 3:15:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Copy that. Thanks. email sent CD |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 3:15:45 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: RCO-A4 and RCO-M4 are USMC. M150 is virtually identical to the RCO-M4 but has lens caps and different markings. Thank you. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 6:10:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: New2AR15s]
[#14]
More parts coming in and getting ready to build a closer to correct lower.
Still need a Side Sling mount unless the CQD is g2g on Block 1 (intended for my block 2), to swap flashhider out and then a regular charging handle Edit: and a more kosher block 1 light 
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Posted: 6/24/2021 6:29:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By New2AR15s: More parts coming in and getting ready to build a closer to correct lower. Still need a Side Sling mount unless the CQD is g2g on Block 1 (intended for my block 2), to swap flashhider out and then a regular charging handle Edit: and a more kosher block 1 light https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497583/20210624_155213-1990058.jpg Looking good. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 6:31:35 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By New2AR15s: More parts coming in and getting ready to build a closer to correct lower. Still need a Side Sling mount unless the CQD is g2g on Block 1 (intended for my block 2), to swap flashhider out and then a regular charging handle Edit: and a more kosher block 1 light https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/497583/20210624_155213-1990058.jpg I would use the side sling swivel |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 6:42:51 PM EDT
[#17]
Can try this one
https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 7:02:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Can try this one https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 7:11:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. I have had good experiences from them and the sling swivels are in stock. Only issues I know of are custom orders taking a while. But yes the rra option is a solid option as well. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 7:28:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: New2AR15s]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Can try this one https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 7:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By New2AR15s: Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon they were in stock a few weeks ago. If set on colt they pop up from time to time. |
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Posted: 6/24/2021 10:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By New2AR15s: Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon G&R Tactical gets Colt in stock regularly for $41.00 |
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Posted: 6/26/2021 1:33:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636]
[#23]
Following the USMC adoption of the TA-31RCOM4 and TA-31RCOA4, the Army replaced its TA31F's with TA31RCOM150. The significant difference between the legacy TA31F ACOG's and the 'new' M150 was the reticle. The new reticle has horizontal stadia lines that assist with range estimation and enables a soldier, Marine, etc to call out indirect fire adjustments without taking their eye off of the target/optic.
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileAs a sidenote, my Infantry battalion had TA31F's briefly, TA31M4's and then got fielded TA31M150's. The TA31M4's were deployment issued RFI but were not authorized by Army MTOE and were replaced by the TA31RCOM150's. |
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Posted: 6/26/2021 1:49:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Following the USMC adoption of the TA-31RCOM4 and TA-31RCOA4, the Army replaced its TA31F's with TA31RCOM150. The significant difference between the legacy TA31F ACOG's and the 'new' M150 was the reticle. The new reticle has horizontal stadia lines that assist with range estimation and enables a soldier, Marine, etc to call out indirect fire adjustments without taking their eye off of the target/optic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210626-121133_Drive_jpg-1991982.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210626-122145_Hancom_Office-1991983.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210626-122915_Google_jpg-1991984.JPG As a sidenote, my Infantry battalion had TA31F's briefly, TA31M4's and then got fielded TA31M150's. The TA31M4's were deployment issued RFI but were not authorized by Army MTOE and were replaced by the TA31RCOM150's. Good info. Thanks man. |
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Posted: 7/2/2021 2:43:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imdBman]
[#25]
Stripped Upper Receiver Score!
DSA Receiver I received an email notification for the DSA Stripped Upper Sale Price at $33 each. The picture shows the split A forge code upper. I ordered 2 because of the price including T Marks which were more expensive the last year. They arrived today and the big score is; They are Mueller forge code! The last M forge code upper I bought from DSA was 3 years ago. The price is back up to $62.  @reswob 
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Posted: 7/2/2021 7:18:51 PM EDT
[#26]
What do the top T markings look like?
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Posted: 7/10/2021 3:54:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: Yes, in relation to the barrel line. Should be easy enough to shim it up Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uniform64: Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo: Meaning in relation to the barrel line? I think I can sort of see it in your pics. That would bug me but it's a cool idea. Yes, in relation to the barrel line. Should be easy enough to shim it up Realize this wouldn't work for a proper clone, but I got rid of the downward cant ny sliding on my Spikes 37mm, both over my KAC rail and the Ergo extension. Got the Havoc tightened on and then finally tightened down the Ergo.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/10/2021 4:59:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
[#28]
Picked up from ffl. Only paid 65 for it. Ik not m4a1, but my first one was a m4 and a burst with gov profile so it's kinda fitting. I might change it out later or build a 1.5 with a m4a1 when they are available again. This is a long term project and this stripped lower became available and I had to jump on it.
It's just dust on the receiver not marks.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/10/2021 11:09:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Picked up from ffl. Only paid 65 for it. Ik not m4a1, but my first one was a m4 and a burst with gov profile so it's kinda fitting. I might change it out later or build a 1.5 with a m4a1 when they are available again. This is a long term project and this stripped lower became available and I had to jump on it. It's just dust on the receiver not marks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/2021-07-1017_12_076301409212231235474_jp-2008988.JPG Nice! I wanted one since it is the model I was issued, but I ended up with 2 M4A1 lowers that will have to do. I think I paid $59.99 each just before everything blew up. I had plans for 1 lower and was saving the other for a future build. But I couldn't and replaced my issued M4 clone Anderson lower with the M4A1 PSA lower. Dam BRD! |
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Posted: 7/11/2021 8:08:38 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Picked up from ffl. Only paid 65 for it. Ik not m4a1, but my first one was a m4 and a burst with gov profile so it's kinda fitting. I might change it out later or build a 1.5 with a m4a1 when they are available again. This is a long term project and this stripped lower became available and I had to jump on it. It's just dust on the receiver not marks. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/2021-07-1017_12_076301409212231235474_jp-2008988.JPG These honestly look nicer than the new engraved Colt lowers. At least in pictures. |
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Posted: 7/11/2021 8:14:49 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: These honestly look nicer than the new engraved Colt lowers. At least in pictures. It's a nice stripped lower. I have used psa stripped lowers several times in past and always been top notch. Mutch better than the newer cr colt rifles I have seen. |
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Posted: 7/11/2021 9:51:14 AM EDT
[#32]
are the new ACOG reticles available ? they are cool
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Posted: 7/14/2021 2:37:29 AM EDT
[#33]
as for the m952, is tan correct?
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Posted: 7/14/2021 8:15:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: as for the m952, is tan correct? The tan M952V is correct for later M4/M4A1 MWS. It would probably be paired with an M150 or CompM4/CompM4S M68. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 8:16:18 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSOG1: are the new ACOG reticles available ? they are cool The chevron with BDC is what is being issued right now. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 8:43:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Early 00’s CAG build in progress.
   
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Posted: 7/14/2021 8:49:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Early 00’s CAG build in progress. https://i.imgur.com/rTA9MsO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/is3myRe.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vxqX4yL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HODPEaG.jpg legit |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 9:06:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2021 12:51:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4Verine]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By New2AR15s: Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By New2AR15s: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Can try this one https://www.tntesales.com/usgi-mil-spec-side-sling-mount/ HERE is a solid option as well. Do some Google searching on TNTE before committing. Extremely mixed reviews, many by members here. Thanks Ill probably order one of these if a Colt doesnt pop up on the EE for a reasonable price soon The Colt side sling is currently "In Stock" right now at Brownells... I just ordered one.. Search for: COLT - Tactical Sling Mount, Front |
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Posted: 7/24/2021 6:07:40 PM EDT
[#40]
While this may be veering off the Block 1, 1.5 and 2 discussions, I am trying to find out if the US military, Army in particular, uses offset red dots on M4A1's and if so, what optic and what offset mount.
My Block 1 is morphing into an MWS apparently (ACOG TA31RCO-M150 sight, ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 laser, Surefire M951, SOPMOD B5 Gen1 stock, Colt SOCOM barrel, ambi selector on a Colt M4 carbine) and I need to go off the reservation, so to speak, and put an RMR on an offset so the weapon has CQB capability. I like cloning but need a real world defensive weapon more, but am trying to stay within mil-spec parts as much as possible. If the military uses it then it's probably proven itself. At the moment I plan to use an RM01 on a Trijicon 45 degree offset mount on the top rear rail behind the laser. @Combat_Diver and anyone else who is in the know, thanks. |
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Posted: 7/24/2021 6:20:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636]
[#41]
I retired from the Army in May of 2020. My last gig was in a light infantry battalion. Our authorized/issued optics were a mix of Aimpoint M4s, Aimpoint M4 and ACOG M150's. There were not any issued mounts or MRDS on our table of authorized equipment. Units like the 10th Mountain, 82nd or 101st might have an authorization for something. The SOPMOD program has the ECOS with the top mounted MRDS.
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Posted: 7/25/2021 12:16:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: While this may be veering off the Block 1, 1.5 and 2 discussions, I am trying to find out if the US military, Army in particular, uses offset red dots on M4A1's and if so, what optic and what offset mount. My Block 1 is morphing into an MWS apparently (ACOG TA31RCO-M150 sight, ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 laser, Surefire M951, SOPMOD B5 Gen1 stock, Colt SOCOM barrel, ambi selector on a Colt M4 carbine) and I need to go off the reservation, so to speak, and put an RMR on an offset so the weapon has CQB capability. I like cloning but need a real world defensive weapon more, but am trying to stay within mil-spec parts as much as possible. If the military uses it then it's probably proven itself. At the moment I plan to use an RM01 on a Trijicon 45 degree offset mount on the top rear rail behind the laser. @Combat_Diver and anyone else who is in the know, thanks. I have seen no use of Regular Army using a MRD. SOCOM did use a MRD piggyback on top of the TA01NSN. CD |
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Posted: 7/25/2021 12:22:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BePhreed]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Units like the 10th Mountain, 82nd or 101st might have an authorization for something. You looking for a fight with that association?  I did 82nd time a few years back. The very few offset dots I saw (all of two) were personal purchases. When with USASOC, I saw as many personal purchases (lots of Vortex) as repurposed issued optics (Docters/Inisght MRDS/T1/T2) as offsets. As far as I know, there is no offset RDS that will be "official" on Army MWS clones other than maybe the random COTS purchases that wound up in arms room during the earlier GWOT (think ACOGs with factory MRDSs/Docs - I saw some big Army dog handlers with those) days and are still on the books. Don't overthink the clone aspect, just do what you want to make your rifle work for you. Some dude at some point over the last 20 years has probably done it anyway. |
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Posted: 7/25/2021 1:22:53 PM EDT
[#44]
Thanks to the posters above who responded with real world observations and knowledge and advice, I do plan to have this rifle usable and not just for photos, hence an offset. The top mounted RMR on the ACOG just puts too much height for what I want. I did not think the military officially used the offsets, but wanted to be sure. I nearly got the TA01NSN since it has iron sights built in for close in work and is more clone approved but felt that was not really the way to go, plus that ACOG has no illumination in daylight or lighted conditions. I will for sure use an RMR, probably the RM01 with 3.25 dot, but the offset mount is still up in the air. I'll post photos when I get it done.
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Posted: 7/25/2021 1:38:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guntoter: While this may be veering off the Block 1, 1.5 and 2 discussions, I am trying to find out if the US military, Army in particular, uses offset red dots on M4A1's and if so, what optic and what offset mount. My Block 1 is morphing into an MWS apparently (ACOG TA31RCO-M150 sight, ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 laser, Surefire M951, SOPMOD B5 Gen1 stock, Colt SOCOM barrel, ambi selector on a Colt M4 carbine) and I need to go off the reservation, so to speak, and put an RMR on an offset so the weapon has CQB capability. I like cloning but need a real world defensive weapon more, but am trying to stay within mil-spec parts as much as possible. If the military uses it then it's probably proven itself. At the moment I plan to use an RM01 on a Trijicon 45 degree offset mount on the top rear rail behind the laser. @Combat_Diver and anyone else who is in the know, thanks. As an additional bit of anecdotal into, I was mechanized infantry for all but 2-3 years. The only optics I ever saw issued on our M4s and M4A1s were the M68 CCO, CompM4, TA-31 ACOG and Eotech 512. Some guys stole an M145 from a SAW in a couple cases, but that's it from the units I was in. ACOGs with RMRs were rare for us, but around. 2007-2019 |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 5:54:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4Verine]
[#46]
Here is my 1st GWOT clone... Thank you for the inputs and parts guys
 Barrel is Colt 14.5 SOCOM (2010 date code). In progress projects are Colt SOPMOD M4A1 Block II and Colt CQBR Block II      
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Posted: 7/31/2021 12:48:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2021 11:55:20 AM EDT
[#48]
At some point here I’ll swap out this upper for a cage code one, and still need to grab some clips for the bfg sling for it.
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Posted: 8/2/2021 7:56:17 PM EDT
[#49]
I guess I morphed my Block 1 into an MWS. Changed out the M68 CCO clone to an ACOG M150 with an ATPIAL-C/PEQ15 and added an offset RM06.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 2:32:05 PM EDT
[#50]
@Combat_Diver
Hadn’t seen this addressed, any thoughts/feedback on the MMC SOCOM barrels that keep popping up? Are they something you’ve seen in the supply chain or are they some sort of reject? https://www.deltateamtactical.com/ar-15-556-nato-145-ar-barrel-designed-to-military-specs.html |
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