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Posted: 8/28/2005 5:35:50 PM EDT
[#1]
It isn't uncommon for rollmarks to be uneven.
If you have large amounts of concern, post a picture for us to view, and you can probably get a better answer. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 5:40:57 PM EDT
[#2]
The serial number you posted has an extra digit.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 5:45:15 PM EDT
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Should be marked like this:
Colt Logo COLT AR-15A2 CAL. .223 SPORTER II SER SP 3XXXXX |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 5:59:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Ok than there is something wrong. The serial is as it is so there is this extra digit. The rifle also doesn't state this sporter II and on the caliber it states 223 not .223
I will try to post a picture. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:10:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:17:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Hey. Ya got yourself a full auto conversion. I see a sear pin.
In the U.S.A. That is a NFA weapon. ETA: Take a pic of the inside of the lower so we can see. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:19:34 PM EDT
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Try flicking the selector to the 3oclock position and pull the trigger. Let me know what happens and post video if you can.
 ETA: How much did you pay for it? |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:19:49 PM EDT
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What is the sear pin? No way I can put the selector in the 3rd position it wont go....
And for what concerns costs here this wepons are quite expensive and hard to find. I payed $2600 |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:21:08 PM EDT
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The pin right after the word DIVISION Again post a pic of the inside of the lower so we can see what ya got. ETA: DAMN I need to move to Costa Rica.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:21:10 PM EDT
[#10]
you lucky bastard, I gotta see whats inside....
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:23:25 PM EDT
[#11]
well after the division there is nothing inside... in any case if I would have wanted a full auto version I could have gotten one for less but it isn't legal here.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:27:17 PM EDT
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Then it is a lower that is made to run full auto with semi auto parts inside and the sear pin hole blocked up with something.
Post a pic of the inside of the lower and we can be sure. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:27:47 PM EDT
[#13]
take a picture of the inside!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:30:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:32:09 PM EDT
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OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a FULL AUTO LOWER! With Semi auto parts inside. Don't part with it. ETA: Full Auto hammer installed also. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:33:25 PM EDT
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ar15 parts inside, no m16 parts. keep it, do not ever get rid of it either. When SHTF you know what to do.....................
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:33:42 PM EDT
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How can you tell? What are the diffrences?
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:34:47 PM EDT
[#18]
Look at the hammer. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:36:12 PM EDT
[#19]
youre right........... m16 hammer
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:37:16 PM EDT
[#20]
 Full auto on right like yours, just you don't have the sear installed. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:37:52 PM EDT
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yall sure it just isnt a sear block pin with the block removed?
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:37:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Doesnt this violate some GCA laws somehow?
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:38:31 PM EDT
[#23]
very nice but the markings COLT AR15-A2 and the SN look strange to me.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:38:37 PM EDT
[#24]
nor does he have the holes open anymore either, looks welded.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:38:55 PM EDT
[#25]
Yes I am sure. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:41:10 PM EDT
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Are machine guns legal in costa rica?
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:44:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:45:16 PM EDT
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User location? |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:47:28 PM EDT
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machine guns aren't legal here this is why I would like to make shure of what I bought. Aparently this wepon has all the papers as it should but in the moment I have to traspass posession of this to myself that the wepon control enthity has to check the weapon to make shure it is not a full auto one.
I do know this is not one but I could have trouble if it was one and was converted to semi auto. Now things are getting a little more painfull here so it is better to be on the safe side. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:57:40 PM EDT
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It WAS full auto. It still has the M16 hammer. Cant tell from those pics about the rest. Your missing the auto sear which fits in that pin whole at the end of the word division. If you installed the auto sear, I suspect it would shoot full auto no problem. As it is, without the sear, its a semi only gun.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:59:25 PM EDT
[#31]
You are sitting on something very sweet.
Tresspass posession? What does that mean? |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:02:59 PM EDT
[#32]
That would be my guess. It used to be a full-auto, but someone puled the sear and welded up the pin hole. If it was a sear block hole, it would only show on the opposite side, as they were blind pinned. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:07:16 PM EDT
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Those roll markings on the receiver look a bit funny . . .maybe a Colt expert can chime in here . . .
That lower was originally made as a full auto lower. The lower receiver is machined wide enough to accept the M16 auto sear, (plus it is drilled for the sear pin). As it sits now it also has a M16 (not semi AR15) hammer installed. The selector is semi, so it will only shoot semi. But you may need to check with your local government laws to find out what "makes" a full auto weapon. It may not be as simple as how many bullets per trigger pull it currently shoots. In the US, having a lower that shoots semi auto but is machined for M16 parts can get you in a bit of trouble. But our laws may not be the same as yours. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:12:55 PM EDT
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Correct me if I am wrong, but that "Colt" looks all wrong. The font is way off and it should be a Colt Logo for the AR15A2 series ? (I am sure there are exceptions [especially with Colt], but it just doesn't look right)??? |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:20:11 PM EDT
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Here there was a time that machine guns where legal, this was in the 1980s than the law changed and there was the possibility to legalize any full auto converting it to semi auto. Now this might be the case of this wepon. But the dought is here. AR-15 Stands for semi auto, so if the body of this wepon is a full auto one than it shouldn't state AR15 on the side.
Second the sears holes are tapped on both sides. I understand that it would be easy as to just drill the sears again and put the pice inside to make it full auto. This is the part that makes me worry, the goverment weapon check, ok ok let me explane things a little. All weapons have a registerd owner. This owner makes you a sale letter when you buy a used weapon. I have the letter, now I have to go to the goverment weapon control to present my documents and the weapon to chage the ownership to my name. If the weapon is illegal, with this isn't but it might be doughtfull, than they keep it and you loose your weapon and risk to have BIG legal problems, if not they just hang it over to you and you will have the weapon registered to your name untill you decide to sell it. Here it is easy to find fully automatic weapons at low prices since they are illegal, but a weapon like this, legal, makes the prices rise a lot. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:24:32 PM EDT
[#36]
M16 usuly do have a 6 digit serial #. But if it is an M16 lower, it would have a BURST marking on it.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:25:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Your lower looks like the writing was welded over and remarked, then the lower was refinished.
The horse logo and the "COLT" appear like that on a non "US Property" marked M16A1 It looks like someone took a M16A1, and redid some of the lettering. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:26:09 PM EDT
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Check this out for more answers and side by side comparisons. www.quarterbore.com/nfa/registeredreceiver.htm You lucky joker.....@#$%&!!! |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:27:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Been gone a bit, missed out on the action. That is a factory Colt's full auto. Notice how the Colt logo is centered. The following has been welded over, AUTO, the CAL marking, Model nomenclature, and serial number. Then it was stamped with the AR-15A2 markings, CAL 223 and serial number.
Not sure if the COLT stamping is factory or not. The serial number is not factory, FYI a 1,000,000 series Colt would date from 1968, and that lower is much later. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:31:43 PM EDT
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This would be my guess:
--A Colt M16A1 lower --reworked for semi auto --rollmarks filled in and restamped --and lower is refinished (paint?) it also looks like you may have a A1 pistol grip ?? |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:32:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Here is what it looked like prior to the weld and retamp job:
 Now it might not have been stamped M16A1, but that would be my first guess. Lots of options here. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:34:11 PM EDT
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I wish ths weapons wouldn't be so hard to find here, and just give this one back and get a normal AR15.
I apreciate everyones help here and I will try to fix things tomorow with the person that sold it to me, because I don't want to loose this one and I bought it the red dot sight just today.... Thanks again to everyone. If I can help please just ask.... |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:35:31 PM EDT
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Does anyone else think that the area where BURST would be looks different? It looks shallow. Maybe i am just seeing things.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 7:50:19 PM EDT
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wel it does look diffrent in the picture, it was placed on a flatbed scanner. In real it doesn't
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Posted: 8/28/2005 8:59:47 PM EDT
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Anyone familiar with export Colt markings and serial numbers?
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Posted: 8/28/2005 9:19:19 PM EDT
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I have my hand up. |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 9:43:27 PM EDT
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Nice....
I wish I had that here as a registered dewat here. It would be reconstuted in a heartbeat just as soon as I got the form 4 back. Of course, we all know that would never happen here. And yes, I've read that some dewats can be brought back into working order if the taxes were paid before 1986. Too bad about the rollmarks. Nice find. Calling Marty McFly and Doc Brown! |
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Posted: 8/28/2005 9:59:29 PM EDT
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When I first seen the "pony" I thought it was a M-16A1..........The AR-15A2 threw me off a bit
 What is all over the rifle? |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 4:48:39 AM EDT
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Aint it a strange world where one counterfiets a full auto weapon into a semi auto weapon in order to make more money
if this conversion was on the up and up with the paperwork registered with the Costa Rican government I would guess that it was one many cheap M-16's converted to Semi Auto because they can charge so much for a non full auto is this where I say I'll offer to trade |
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Posted: 8/29/2005 5:01:04 AM EDT
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Interesting. I learned something. Cool.
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