New Geissele Super Duty LE and Super Duty

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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:18:22 AM EDT

Not sure when the official unveil is suppose to be but Jason Davis wrote an article on his visit to North Wales and spending the day with Bill and Diego Muya to talk about this project. Price point mentioned in the article is $750 for the Super Duty LE.

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/firepower/20190101/281522227093528

Posted: 11/29/2018 9:26:50 AM EDT

[#1]

None of you G fans are excited for this?

Posted: 11/29/2018 10:22:45 AM EDT

[#2]

I have been waiting for Geissele to sell complete guns for awhile. I’ve been building rifles with their parts for about four years now. Would love to get a GA-15 lower to pair with my URG-I.

How about it @GACS?

Posted: 11/29/2018 11:09:19 AM EDT

[#3]

Hell yes

Posted: 11/29/2018 11:09:28 AM EDT

[#4]

I am especially at that price point. It is interesting they are using ALG rails and trigger, but understandable if they are trying to be at $750. I would expect some higher tier versions with G rails and triggers available eventually as well.

If they can hit the price point stated in the article they will own the market. That is great quality for not much more than most of the budget guns and way cheaper than BCM, DD, and even colt basic offerings like the 6920.

Hoping individual lowers, BCG, and other parts will be available as well

I know some people will complain is not all Geiselle but i think this is a smart move. The Gucci guns will come too

Posted: 11/29/2018 12:49:19 PM EDT

[#5]

Considering ALG is closely associated with Geissele, I’m not surprised at all. Especially to keep the gun at a $750 price point. The ALG rails are a really good value.

Posted: 11/29/2018 12:56:52 PM EDT

[#6]

@gacs will these rifles be available for le only?

Posted: 11/29/2018 1:17:39 PM EDT

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I hope not. Maybe just at first and then open up to the public? Would feel like teasing if just LE only.

Posted: 11/29/2018 1:58:04 PM EDT

[#8]

Hell yes, cant wait for G to start making there own rifles

Posted: 11/29/2018 2:17:48 PM EDT

[#9]

Well, I will be buying one for work as soon as they're released. Currently using a Colt with G parts.

Posted: 11/29/2018 5:30:31 PM EDT

[#10]

Hope they have an SBR option.

Posted: 11/29/2018 7:25:07 PM EDT

[#11]

Thank you all for your interest! Stay tuned in as we approach SHOT!

-GACS

Posted: 11/29/2018 8:05:12 PM EDT

[#12]

I’m good for 3.

Could do without the PA State Police logo, but I get it and beggars can’t be choosers.

Posted: 11/29/2018 10:00:01 PM EDT

[#13]

I can already feel the money leaving my wallet. Hopefully these will be available to everyone

Posted: 11/29/2018 10:02:35 PM EDT

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You and me both.

If the get offered in green, i'll take 2!!!

Posted: 11/29/2018 10:13:42 PM EDT

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I will be buying one.

@GACS where do I send my deposit? I’ll pay in full up front

But seriously I’ll PM you my CC number and you just charge what you want to it. I would like serial number G000087

ETA does this mean the G board will get moved from accessories to rifles in the industry section?

Posted: 11/30/2018 2:02:53 AM EDT

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They should've been moved at least 4 years ago.

Posted: 11/30/2018 6:24:46 AM EDT

[#17]

I'm so in...

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:23:48 AM EDT

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Could do without the PA State Police logo, but I get it and beggars can’t be choosers.

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It's not the Pennsylvania State Police symbol, although they do wear it. It's a Keystone. It's the state symbol...The "Keystone State."

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:39:02 AM EDT

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At $750 nobody will be able to touch this for quality. A few things I’d like to see offered is DDC all the things and a different rail. I get it though. ALG rails are high quality and cheap that’s why they put them on this gun with its price point. I personally just think they are hideous.

Now for things I don’t like about the gun. Super Duty

What is this a Ford Truck? I understand G is “super” _________ and this is a duty rifle but it just seems stupid. Also the keystone needs to go. The word Geissele or just a G would be hands down better and I bet everyone that doesn’t live in PA would agree.

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:39:22 AM EDT

[#20]

Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

Posted: 11/30/2018 10:05:24 AM EDT

[#21]

G-250

Posted: 11/30/2018 10:35:13 AM EDT

[#22]

Will that gas system fit under the Mk16 rail is the question.

Posted: 11/30/2018 1:01:55 PM EDT

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That rollmark could cause trouble if ever stopped by LEO. They might think Geissele Automatics means it's a machine gun. To be safe for civilian users, they should make the rollmark Geissele Semi-Automatics.

Posted: 11/30/2018 1:12:36 PM EDT

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Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1159/8888/products/mb2_600x.JPG?v=1527501307

That rollmark could cause trouble if ever stopped by LEO. They might think Geissele Automatics means it's a machine gun. To be safe for civilian users, they should make the rollmark Geissele Semi-Automatics.

Lol. Now that's funny right there.

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Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1159/8888/products/mb2_600x.JPG?v=1527501307

Yeah that is hot. Won't lie.

Posted: 11/30/2018 1:58:49 PM EDT

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Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

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This right here. Hopefully that other roll mark will just be for PA state police.

Posted: 11/30/2018 2:10:08 PM EDT

[#26]

I'm not the biggest fan of the rollmark either, but I can live with it.

I think a simplified version of their astronaut would be a really cool rollmark.

Will the intermediate gas offer any reliability enhancements over midlength, assuming correct gas port sizes for both, or is it just for extra smoothess/recoil reduction?

I am roughly familiar with midlengths and correct gas port sizes, but not intermediate.

Posted: 11/30/2018 3:47:36 PM EDT

[#27]

I agree with the comments on the rollmark, name and rail, but I'll still buy one regardless

Posted: 11/30/2018 5:22:05 PM EDT

[#28]

A value-priced Geissele rifle packed with Geissele and ALG goodness and men are concerned about the rollmarks and colors... my goodness, what a strange new world.

I haven't been particularly interested in any new AR-15 rifle offerings in years, but I'll be watching this.

Posted: 11/30/2018 7:33:19 PM EDT

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Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

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I prefer this rollmark, as well.

Posted: 11/30/2018 7:36:41 PM EDT

[#30]

So now I wonder if it’s for agency purchase only or individual officer’s too.

Posted: 11/30/2018 7:39:36 PM EDT

[#31]

I’m interested i knowing this:

1. Type of barrel steel? 4150 CMV? Chrome lining done by US CHROME? Barrel ID slightly bigger to accomodate chrome lining?

2. BCG steel? HPT and MP tested? Batch tested? Or ALL pieces tested?

3. Chamber type?

At work and only skimmed the article.

Posted: 11/30/2018 8:17:55 PM EDT

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I’m interested i knowing this:

1. Type of barrel steel? 4150 CMV? Chrome lining done by US CHROME? Barrel ID slightly bigger to accomodate chrome lining?

2. BCG steel? HPT and MP tested? Batch tested? Or ALL pieces tested?

3. Chamber type?

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I hope not HPT.

Posted: 11/30/2018 8:24:27 PM EDT

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So now I wonder if it's for agency purchase only or individual officer's too.

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I would bet agencies... but I'm down for individual purchases.

My workplace is getting new rifles with ALG rails, but I don't know what they are.

I heard this a couple of weeks ago.

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:04:57 PM EDT

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I hope not HPT.

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I’m interested i knowing this:

1. Type of barrel steel? 4150 CMV? Chrome lining done by US CHROME? Barrel ID slightly bigger to accomodate chrome lining?

2. BCG steel? HPT and MP tested? Batch tested? Or ALL pieces tested?

3. Chamber type?

At work and only skimmed the article.

I hope not HPT.

Why would that be?

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:07:22 PM EDT

[#35]

Is the barrel Cold Hammer Forged?

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:31:08 PM EDT

[#36]

I’d be happy with a 4150 CMV barrel.

Posted: 11/30/2018 11:04:58 PM EDT

[#37]

LEO only

Posted: 12/1/2018 12:39:55 AM EDT

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Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

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This.

And please Geissele, sell to the public!

Posted: 12/1/2018 8:40:52 AM EDT

[#39]

I hope Geissele realizes there is a market for both complete guns, or factory marked lowers.

Posted: 12/1/2018 9:04:45 AM EDT

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I’d be OK with receiver sets in black and DDC as well.

Posted: 12/1/2018 9:58:34 AM EDT

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And ODG.

Posted: 12/1/2018 2:14:30 PM EDT

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Nice rifle but I'd definitely prefer the more subdued rollmarks as seen on previous receivers. And DDC of course...

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This lower looks better in my humble opinion

Posted: 12/1/2018 2:26:38 PM EDT

[#43]

Well I have more than a few questions all of a sudden.

I know I'll have to wait until shot for most or any answers but here I go anyway.

1. I remember Bill saying they were working on a new look for his black anodized parts, is this that?

2. What does the shape on the logo surrounding the words "SUPER DUTY" represent?

3. Why is the bolt phosfated unlike the carrier that uses the nano diamond coating?

And lastly...

4. Can I get a receiver set in green to match my new rail and charging handle?

Edit: And buffer tube

Posted: 12/1/2018 2:52:36 PM EDT

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2. It is a "key stone" because it's from the keystone state.

A key stone is the center stone at the top of the arch. It holds it all together.

Posted: 12/1/2018 10:44:35 PM EDT

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I’m interested i knowing this:

1. Type of barrel steel? 4150 CMV? Chrome lining done by US CHROME? Barrel ID slightly bigger to accomodate chrome lining?

2. BCG steel? HPT and MP tested? Batch tested? Or ALL pieces tested?

3. Chamber type?

At work and only skimmed the article.

I hope not HPT.

Why would that be?

Adversely affects bolt life

Posted: 12/2/2018 12:20:49 AM EDT

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I’m interested i knowing this:

1. Type of barrel steel? 4150 CMV? Chrome lining done by US CHROME? Barrel ID slightly bigger to accomodate chrome lining?

2. BCG steel? HPT and MP tested? Batch tested? Or ALL pieces tested?

3. Chamber type?

At work and only skimmed the article.

I hope not HPT.

Why would that be?

Adversely affects bolt life

Got a link to proof of that?

Posted: 12/2/2018 9:45:31 AM EDT

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It's common knowledge among people who make bolts. Testing involves trying to crack a bolt with a super high pressure load, failures with quality steel are very rare but you are definitely zapping the life out of the bolt by exposing it to that much pressure, so between the test not filtering out a lot or any bolts but impacting the service life of all bolts, you're not gaining much if anything by doing it. Maybe 50 years ago when the steel my not of been as consistently good it was a good trade off.

Posted: 12/2/2018 9:47:32 AM EDT

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I know Reed Knight in an interview said SR-25 bolts don’t get near the life they should due to high pressure test loads mandated by govt.

Posted: 12/2/2018 6:44:03 PM EDT

[#49]

@GACS

Will the semi auto be available to individual officer at that price or are they department purchase?

If they are individual purchase... can I get mine before next qualification shoot?

Posted: 12/3/2018 6:47:51 AM EDT

[#50]

Bill needs to reconsider this "LEO only" nonsense.

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