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Posted: 8/29/2011 6:28:02 AM EDT
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Here, we'll try this again. This is an ARES Defense forum that is paid for and monitored by ARES Defense. The forum rules are pretty simple; read before you post and if you don't like the rules then don't participate.
Please post SHRIKE questions in this thread. We will be monitoring this thread for SHRIKE order questions and we will be posting SHRIKE order updates here. If you have a tech question on the SHRIKE Weapon System please start a new thread on this forum. Edit: 8/30/2011 - Please Note: We will NOT respond to personal requests for order updates. If you have a specific question relating to your order, please fax your request to: (321) 242-8411. STAY ON TOPIC THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR INSULTS ITS FOR SHRIKE UPDATES AND QUESTIONS, TAKE INSULTS AND LIKE TO OTHER BOARDS THAT ALLOW IT. Thank you for your contributions. |
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Currently a Shrike owner and when shooting with friends or at shoots get a few questions, thus would like to check the current retail price on Shrike as I did not find it listed on either web sight or here (may have gotten cleaned up in house keeping or I have not found it yet).
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Originally Posted By JTinIN:
Currently a Shrike owner and when shooting with friends or at shoots get a few questions, thus would like to check the current retail price on Shrike as I did not find it listed on either web sight or here (may have gotten cleaned up in house keeping or I have not found it yet). No new civilian sales being offered at this time until backlog is clear. We have a waiting list that he can get on; not accepting any deposits. Current price is $5,600. for standard upper receiver assembly. Thanks. |
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Did we ever come to a conclusion on being able to pay the "difference" between the value of the Aluminum feed tray model vs. the steel feed tray upgrade, if "original depositers" wanted to utilize the steel option?
This concession would be one way of "Coming Together" for the ones who held in there with you during this journey. The future purchasers would just need to understand that the unit they are ordering is stock with an Aluminum tray. Any insight into when the backlog is to be caught-up? Thanks, Tim Heady aka Wind50cal |
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Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Here, we'll try this again. This is an ARES Defense forum that is paid for and monitored by ARES Defense. The forum rules are pretty simple; read before you post and if you don't like the rules then don't participate. Please post SHRIKE questions in this thread. We will be monitoring this thread for SHRIKE order questions and we will be posting SHRIKE order updates here. If you have a tech question on the SHRIKE Weapon System please start a new thread on this forum. STAY ON TOPIC THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR INSULTS ITS FOR SHRIKE UPDATES AND QUESTIONS, TAKE INSULTS AND LIKE TO OTHER BOARDS THAT ALLOW IT. Thank you for your contributions. Ares, I do believe that my request for information below falls within the realm of acceptability as described above by your own representitive. Could you please afford me: 1) An update as to the status of my Shrike order 2) A valid and accurate timeline as to when I will receive a phonecall of impending invoice 3) An answer as to whether or not I may order a steel feedtray in lieu of the aluminum feedtray at the time of final payment, at further cost to me 4) How soon after I send in my remaining balance for the Shrike/parts can I expect shipment and actual delivery There you have it, honest to God questions that need to be answered, delivered with no malice or anger expelled towards any Ares employee or owner. Furthermore, out of respect to me, as a faithful and very patient original depositor/investor, I expect no less than to be heard and answered fully, in a respectful and timely fashion. In the likelihood that you do not wish to do so here publicly, or you feel there may be a problem correctly identifying me, it is well within your power to contact me via the e-mail associated with my AR15 dot com account. In closing, if you demand civility and respect from us in this forum, than we should expect the very same back from you towards us, for after all, we are your customers, your livelihood, and your bread and butter...and without us, you would cease to exist. Looking forward to hearing back from you in a timely manner. Regards, Andy B aka DrewBone |
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Originally Posted By wind50cal:
Did we ever come to a conclusion on being able to pay the "difference" between the value of the Aluminum feed tray model vs. the steel feed tray upgrade, if "original depositers" wanted to utilize the steel option? This concession would be one way of "Coming Together" for the ones who held in there with you during this journey. The future purchasers would just need to understand that the unit they are ordering is stock with an Aluminum tray. Any insight into when the backlog is to be caught-up? Thanks, Tim Heady aka Wind50cal Yes, we will provide the steel feed trays as an option; I don't have an exact price yet. I'll post as soon as we do. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By DrewBone:
Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Here, we'll try this again. This is an ARES Defense forum that is paid for and monitored by ARES Defense. The forum rules are pretty simple; read before you post and if you don't like the rules then don't participate. Please post SHRIKE questions in this thread. We will be monitoring this thread for SHRIKE order questions and we will be posting SHRIKE order updates here. If you have a tech question on the SHRIKE Weapon System please start a new thread on this forum. STAY ON TOPIC THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR INSULTS ITS FOR SHRIKE UPDATES AND QUESTIONS, TAKE INSULTS AND LIKE TO OTHER BOARDS THAT ALLOW IT. Thank you for your contributions. Ares, I do believe that my request for information below falls within the realm of acceptability as described above by your own representitive. Could you please afford me: 1) An update as to the status of my Shrike order 2) A valid and accurate timeline as to when I will receive a phonecall of impending invoice 3) An answer as to whether or not I may order a steel feedtray in lieu of the aluminum feedtray at the time of final payment, at further cost to me 4) How soon after I send in my remaining balance for the Shrike/parts can I expect shipment and actual delivery There you have it, honest to God questions that need to be answered, delivered with no malice or anger expelled towards any Ares employee or owner. Furthermore, out of respect to me, as a faithful and very patient original depositor/investor, I expect no less than to be heard and answered fully, in a respectful and timely fashion. In the likelihood that you do not wish to do so here publicly, or you feel there may be a problem correctly identifying me, it is well within your power to contact me via the e-mail associated with my AR15 dot com account. In closing, if you demand civility and respect from us in this forum, than we should expect the very same back from you towards us, for after all, we are your customers, your livelihood, and your bread and butter...and without us, you would cease to exist. Looking forward to hearing back from you in a timely manner. Regards, Andy B aka DrewBone 1. Your order is in good standing. You'll receive a telephone calll to the number on record prior to your invoice being sent. 2. I would estimate that you should receive that pre invoice telephone call within the next 30-45 days. 3. Yes, you will have the option of ordering the steel feed tay; I don't have pricing available yet. 4. We strive to ship within 30 dys of depositing final payment. The original thread on this forum was nuked because it was not civil or respectful. |
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Please update me on my order. khale @ halelyle . com
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Originally Posted By TNKenski:
Please update me on my order. khale @ halelyle . com If you have questions or need to provide updates relating to your specific order, then please fax them to: (321) 242-8411. Thanks. |
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I've put a little under 1500 rounds through my semi-auto Shrike since May when I received it. It has the aluminum feed tray that is getting some pretty good wear and gouges on it. Is there a trade-up program that I can send it in and upgrade to a steel tray? How much? What will the turn-around time be?
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Geoff,
I checked with Mike this afternoon, and found out our check and invoice had inadvertently got lost with other paperwork on the way to the mail box. I apologize to you and Sara for jumping the gun, and will have a check to you by this Friday. Mike told me that he had was going to send it a few weeks ago when we spoke so I was a little worried when I couldn't contact you do to the amount of money that had been mailed. I jumped to conclusions, and for that I am truly sorry. Thank you for your understanding in this matter Chris |
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Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Originally Posted By DrewBone:
Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Here, we'll try this again. This is an ARES Defense forum that is paid for and monitored by ARES Defense. The forum rules are pretty simple; read before you post and if you don't like the rules then don't participate. Please post SHRIKE questions in this thread. We will be monitoring this thread for SHRIKE order questions and we will be posting SHRIKE order updates here. If you have a tech question on the SHRIKE Weapon System please start a new thread on this forum. STAY ON TOPIC THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR INSULTS ITS FOR SHRIKE UPDATES AND QUESTIONS, TAKE INSULTS AND LIKE TO OTHER BOARDS THAT ALLOW IT. Thank you for your contributions. Ares, I do believe that my request for information below falls within the realm of acceptability as described above by your own representitive. Could you please afford me: 1) An update as to the status of my Shrike order 2) A valid and accurate timeline as to when I will receive a phonecall of impending invoice 3) An answer as to whether or not I may order a steel feedtray in lieu of the aluminum feedtray at the time of final payment, at further cost to me 4) How soon after I send in my remaining balance for the Shrike/parts can I expect shipment and actual delivery There you have it, honest to God questions that need to be answered, delivered with no malice or anger expelled towards any Ares employee or owner. Furthermore, out of respect to me, as a faithful and very patient original depositor/investor, I expect no less than to be heard and answered fully, in a respectful and timely fashion. In the likelihood that you do not wish to do so here publicly, or you feel there may be a problem correctly identifying me, it is well within your power to contact me via the e-mail associated with my AR15 dot com account. In closing, if you demand civility and respect from us in this forum, than we should expect the very same back from you towards us, for after all, we are your customers, your livelihood, and your bread and butter...and without us, you would cease to exist. Looking forward to hearing back from you in a timely manner. Regards, Andy B aka DrewBone 1. Your order is in good standing. You'll receive a telephone calll to the number on record prior to your invoice being sent. 2. I would estimate that you should receive that pre invoice telephone call within the next 30-45 days. 3. Yes, you will have the option of ordering the steel feed tay; I don't have pricing available yet. 4. We strive to ship within 30 dys of depositing final payment. The original thread on this forum was nuked because it was not civil or respectful. Ares, Thank you for responding with the above information in kind, for interpreting my request[s] in the spirit with which they were intended to be expressed, and lastly, for keeping this post up. Looking forward to hearing from you in the timeframe above, along with the ultimate receipt of my order. Regards, Andy B aka DrewBone |
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Ares,
Your response to DrewBone was awesome. Thank you for that. These timely and re-assuring responses that actually address peoples concerns are what will keep us all civil. Thank you again. |
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Hmm,
mailed a check on 7/19. Nothing yet. Did have to send a form 4 copy a couple weeks ago. We have not sent an outbound fax in........holy smokes, 9 years. We get inbound about 4 a year. Bought another house with scanned emailed docs and pics, but of course the check was mailed next day. Bought it solely off pics and satellite images, never went there til two months after closing. I realize phone calls are disturbing, but even NFA branch takes them and gives you essentially "order status". |
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Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Originally Posted By JTinIN:
Currently a Shrike owner and when shooting with friends or at shoots get a few questions, thus would like to check the current retail price on Shrike as I did not find it listed on either web sight or here (may have gotten cleaned up in house keeping or I have not found it yet). No new civilian sales being offered at this time until backlog is clear. We have a waiting list that he can get on; not accepting any deposits. Current price is $5,600. for standard upper receiver assembly. Thanks. Ares, Thank you for clarifying the current state of new orders and the current price. Would you please clarify for the buying public what the latest "standard" configuration is for new orders once you get the pre-order backlog filled? As I recall all new Shrikes will come standard with the rail forearm, for example –– and that was announced when the price was set at $5300. Can you verify that milled billet-steel feedtrays will be standard in production models once the pre-orders are filled? Thank you. - H |
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Ares, I sent a fax several months ago updating my info and asking for a order status update, I never got
a reply. Can you check into it and verify my info and order status. Thanks, Brent Kaplan [email protected] |
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Originally Posted By SKSseven:
Geoff, I checked with Mike this afternoon, and found out our check and invoice had inadvertently got lost with other paperwork on the way to the mail box. I apologize to you and Sara for jumping the gun, and will have a check to you by this Friday. Mike told me that he had was going to send it a few weeks ago when we spoke so I was a little worried when I couldn't contact you do to the amount of money that had been mailed. I jumped to conclusions, and for that I am truly sorry. Thank you for your understanding in this matter Chris Chris, These things happen. Thank you for owning it and having the public courage to admit it. I accept your apology on behalf or our staff and we look forward to providing you with our products! Best regards. -GH |
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Originally Posted By Hockler:
Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Originally Posted By JTinIN:
Currently a Shrike owner and when shooting with friends or at shoots get a few questions, thus would like to check the current retail price on Shrike as I did not find it listed on either web sight or here (may have gotten cleaned up in house keeping or I have not found it yet). No new civilian sales being offered at this time until backlog is clear. We have a waiting list that he can get on; not accepting any deposits. Current price is $5,600. for standard upper receiver assembly. Thanks. Ares, Thank you for clarifying the current state of new orders and the current price. Would you please clarify for the buying public what the latest "standard" configuration is for new orders once you get the pre-order backlog filled? As I recall all new Shrikes will come standard with the rail forearm, for example –– and that was announced when the price was set at $5300. Can you verify that milled billet-steel feedtrays will be standard in production models once the pre-orders are filled? Thank you. - H I can't clarify this exactly since we're not there yet and many things are driven by our costs and the value of the dollar. I know that might sound like a deliberately ambiguous answer and it's not intended to be, but these things will have a direct impact on price and configuration. Regarding the alloy feed tray; there are hundreds of them out there and most people are enjoying shooting their uppers without concern. "Wear" is a subjective thing in that one person's opinion of high wear is different from another's and the true test is does the perceived or actual wear actually result in decreased performance or unreliability of the product? Our position is that the alloy trays provide acceptable service life for their intended use and they would be factory OEM on new uppers being sold after the backlog is clear. |
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Originally Posted By uzigalil:
Ares, I sent a fax several months ago updating my info and asking for a order status update, I never got a reply. Can you check into it and verify my info and order status. Thanks, Brent Kaplan [email protected] Brent, Please fax your request or provide updates to your order to: (321) 242-8411. Thanks. |
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One simple question when will the next shipment of uppers be? im past your 30 day shipping time frame. i have paid in full with you cashing my payment in full over 30 day ago. PS i have now past 9 years
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Nine (9) years ago today sent in my deposit. I was 46 at the time.
Despite many requests, the only information received in those 9 years was the acknowledgment of receipt of a change of address form. Ken |
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Ares,
I am at a loss to know "why" we are experiencing the delay in receiving our product? I could understand when the equiptment needed to be bought-setup-programmed-moved-reset- and bugs worked out...no problem. But now it is nine years later, the equiptment is running, product is programmed in, but people are still waiting. Honestly, don't you think we should be getting our uppers by now? This is not a flame! I just don't understand what is going on and I speak for alot of other people that are still waiting. Thank you. Tim Heady |
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Any updates? Any new shipments? Not trying to troll, just been pretty quiet here lately.
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Very quiet. I sent payment 60 days ago. I don't have an outgoing fax to send an inquiry so I guess I just have to wait? Could be another revision going on? When Ares sent the final bill and mentioned here they strive for 30 day shipment, I sort of assumed I'd have it by now? Will I have anything to take the the creek in Oct'?
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Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
3. Yes, you will have the option of ordering the steel feed tray; I don't have pricing available yet. 4. We strive to ship within 30 dys of depositing final payment. The original thread on this forum was nuked because it was not civil or respectful. Sorry, I beg to differ. All posts that were not civil or respectful on the previous thread were individually nuked by Ares on a regular basis. I have seen several disapear in the Those that remained fell under three categories: 1. Where is my shrike and why has it taken 9 years to finish it? 2. Why did you change the design, I liked it the way it was when I paid my deposit 9 years ago? 3. Shut up and wait like a good boy because I already got my Shrike and all you complainers could mess up my spare parts order. I will agree that the old thread got a little long and tedious, but it did have some good information in it. I am sorry to see it go. Regarding the steel feed tray option, no offense, but if there is no pricing available when your time is up then the option is not available. That is an option I would have bought, but when I asked about it I was told that I couldn't do it. I wasn't even able to get the adjustable gas block with mine. The only way to get it is to order a complete barrel assembly. It's an option when you buy a spare barrel, so why can't it be an option on the first barrel? Doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Regarding shipment, why would you wait 30 days after payment is deposited to ship? In my case the check was deposited a week after I sent it. My 30 days is coming up rather quickly, but I'm not holding my breath. I just can't figure why you would ask for the balance if the uppers weren't boxed up and ready to ship. Haven't we waited enough? |
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OH...C'MON..... Anything?...... I'm not trying to be hostile, I just want to know the scuttlebutt. I mean, you can even lie at least... (I hope you don't cause it feels like you've been doing it for 7 years). But seriously, any news? I am still waiting and excited to get the call... so lets gets some news!?
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Any update on when the carry handles will be available?
Two please... |
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Is there anybody in there?
I just really don't understand? Seriously..blueprints made-program into CNC- make parts- assemble- test. What "is" the hold-up on the program now? |
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I think they are all tied up in their "new product" right now. Lots of guys with uppers in for repair and they haven't gotten any answers or uppers returned to them. I know that "sending questions by fax" does not work either.
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So, now the Ares webpage has been updated and what I presume is a post sample Ares-16 AMG-1 and AMG-2 are being offered for sale??
http://www.aresdefense.com/?page_id=126 Am I reading this correctly? |
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Wow, over 60 day since my final payment has been made. nothing no word at this rate I will celebrate 10 years waiting before i get my upper. I would like to see some sort of update on this page ASAP.
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Wow 9 Years and one month waiting and Nothing, Any news Ares?????
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Wasn't it a year ago that it seemed that our wait would be over? Shipments and production were to be ramped up with all back orders filled by the new year....., some updates would be better than none, but as we have seen updates that gave false hope for quick shipments weren't very productive...
Address confirmations, which promised a letter at some point in the future... I still don't understand how my order/deposit made during the initial august period, somehow fell behind those that got in on the extended offer after august!!! And processing order does not make sense, since I have an august postmarked deposit confirmation letter that precedes the extension offer... Maybe the 10th anniversary shrike will be a limited edition! (just like the 9th anniversary one was...) Waiting for godot! (I mean my shrike...) |
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Originally Posted By tphank:
Wasn't it a year ago that it seemed that our wait would be over? Shipments and production were to be ramped up with all back orders filled by the new year....., some updates would be better than none, but as we have seen updates that gave false hope for quick shipments weren't very productive... Address confirmations, which promised a letter at some point in the future... I still don't understand how my order/deposit made during the initial august period, somehow fell behind those that got in on the extended offer after august!!! And processing order does not make sense, since I have an august postmarked deposit confirmation letter that precedes the extension offer... Maybe the 10th anniversary shrike will be a limited edition! (just like the 9th anniversary one was...) Waiting for godot! (I mean my shrike...) I believe Ares made a self-imposed promise that they would be caught up on all outstanding Shrike orders by January 31st, 2011. They missed that date and then bumped it back to April 2011 IIRC. Hard to say as Ares themselves have since nuked that thread. |
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Not to be a pot sturer (yea right) but I have gotten some answers from going to their Facebook page. Some times I still get nuked but they answer alot more than here. This kind of reminds me of the old Snake oil sailsman. They would skip town when things got too hot and set up some other place.
Better go I hear the fuze on the nuke bomb. |
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Originally Posted By gone2farr:
Better go I hear the fuze on the nuke bomb. If you look up the User Info for Ares Defense, Last Login Date: 10/3/2011 10:29:28 AM CDT Last Post Date: 9/23/2011 5:40:12 AM CDT They haven't posted anything in two weeks. But they have been logging in. Seems they are AWOL?? |
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Mabe they are working hard to have all the uppers built by Jan 2012 and don't have time to answer questions on the web sight.
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Originally Posted By gone2farr:
Mabe they are working hard to have all the uppers built by Jan 2012 and don't have time to answer questions on the web sight. They nuked a topic I had about the Shrike no longer listed on their website and instead it is named ARES-16 AMG-2 I think some people replied with negative stuff and it got nuked. |
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Any news? ...... Any?
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Originally Posted By joshuaseverson:
Any news? ...... Any? I'd sure like to hear something. Anything. This forum is just dying. I would be interested in the nomenclature change from Shrike to AMG. What does this mean for us? Thank you. |
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Originally Posted By v188:
Originally Posted By joshuaseverson:
Any news? ...... Any? I'd sure like to hear something. Anything. This forum is just dying. I would be interested in the nomenclature change from Shrike to AMG. What does this mean for us? Thank you. We're all really busy so not much to say. The barrel shipment that was delayed should be on its way back from chrome so a bunch of these will be flowing as soon as they're done and more calls/invoices will be going out. Difference between a Shrike and an ARES-16 AMG: Shrike is an upper receiver assembly only to put on consumer's own lowers, where the ARES-16 AMG family are mainly complete select-fire weapons for military, LE and government export sales. Additionally, the AMG's also have 1:7 barrels, bayonet lugs where appropriate to end user needs, co-planar rail handguard with top cover for co-witness of optics with NV or thermal devices and some other mil enhancements. |
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Thanks for the update.
It sounds like several of the AMG standard features are great. Hopefully, we might be able to upgrade the Shrike with some of them? Please keep cranking out units, I'm anxiously awaiting my call. |
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So the AMG upper gets all sorts of added features. (edited by ARES Moderator to remove misinformation) Correct?
And if a friendly foreign government comes along and wants AMG units, they get their orders filled while we continue to wait? Correct??? Ken |
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....Read the forum rules. Thanks.
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....Read the forum rules. Thanks.
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"1. Your order is in good standing. You'll receive a telephone calll to the number on record prior to your invoice being sent.
2. I would estimate that you should receive that pre invoice telephone call within the next 30-45 days. 3. Yes, you will have the option of ordering the steel feed tay; I don't have pricing available yet. 4. We strive to ship within 30 dys of depositing final payment." Geoff, Kindly read your above quoted statement to me. I have been patiently observing this thread daily since your response to me without saying a word, but now I'm gonna' break the seal. Please observe the fact that it has been over 45 days since your above response to me and I have yet to receive my pre invoice phone call. I am beyond understanding why I have not received my pre invoice phone call, I am beyond understanding any possible cause for delays, and I am beyond understanding why no pricing has been posted in regards to the [extra] cost of substituting a steel feed tray for the "standard" aluminum tray. I am trying real hard to stay within the boundries of the posting rules as set forth by yourself, but it is becoming increasingly difficult given the silence here, the endless array of delays, and the dates gone by. Please, this is the thread you created for updates and questions, so how about ANSWERING the questions posted here with accuracy and creating UPDATES on production/parts availability? It would go a LONG LONG way towards avoiding the insulting and derogitory replies from those of us depositors who have been MORE than patiently waiting for our product. Thanks for listening and for any productive, useful, and beneficial commentary. Regards, Andy =8^) aka DrewBone |
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Hey thanks for editing my post.
Now. I. don't. Quite. Know. What. To. Say... =8^) |
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Originally Posted By Ares Defense:
Additionally, the AMG's also have 1:7 barrels, bayonet lugs where appropriate to end user needs, co-planar rail handguard with top cover for co-witness of optics with NV or thermal devices and some other mil enhancements. While I had looked at the AMG pictures on your website I hadn't noticed the co-planar rail handguard. Awesome stuff!!!! Man I hope I can order that upgrade when I get "the call". While I wish I'd get the call soon, I'm really digging the improvements coming along, even the bayo lug! Keep upgrading exciting new stuff, but please send out some more calls. (Selfishly I'm hoping my call will be soon) |
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